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==Clockwork Orange== |
==Clockwork Orange== |
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I think the reference to it is too small for a full-fledged article. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green;">Heroe</span>]] 21:26, 7 March 2007 (EST) |
I think the reference to it is too small for a full-fledged article. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green;">Heroe</span>]] 21:26, 7 March 2007 (EST) |
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*No less than ''[[Rain Man]]'' or [[Alcoholics Anonymous]]. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 23:03, 7 March 2007 (EST) |
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*Or Princess Bride which was referenced in Parasite obliquely. [[User:Disney42|Disney42]] 23:42, 7 March 2007 (EST) |
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**At least we know for a fact this one was intentional.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 00:06, 8 March 2007 (EST) |
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== Halloween == |
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I picked up on this earlier today when watching, I think it was, [[Episode:The Hard Part|The Hard Part]], on DVD. |
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[[Molly Walker|Molly's]] line "You can't stop the boogeyman" is extremely similar to [[wikipedia:Tommy Doyle|Tommy's]] [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Halloween(film)#Dialogue line] at the end of the original [[wikipedia:Halloween (1978 film)|Halloween]], "You can't ''kill'' the boogeyman." Think it's worth mentioning somewhere or am I just reading too much into something (again)? [[User:Erika|Erika]] 12:57, 17 September 2007 (EDT) |
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* Very possible, though it's a pretty general line that might simply mean what it means, and not be a reference to ''Halloween'' at all. We certainly don't need an article about ''Halloween'', but I think if you want to put a note on ''[[The Hard Part]]'', that'd be fine. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 14:21, 17 September 2007 (EDT) |
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== In the Commentary for the Line == |
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They referenced a couple of movies, the one I remember the most is North By Northwest during the West/Debbie chase scene. They also mention something earlier in the episode.[[User:Random guy|Random guy]] 04:40, 2 November 2007 (EDT) |
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*Indeed, even the [[storyboard]] for the scene [[:Image:Storyboard Claire and Debbie 6.jpg|specifically noted]] ''North by Northwest''. Personally I'd rather see our ''[[Psycho]]'' article turned into a Hitchcock article. But I don't see much need for either right now, myself. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 05:54, 2 November 2007 (EDT) |
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==DO we have an -opposite page' to this one?== |
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Where we list shows that reference "Heroes"? Wanted to update it with a clip from last night's '''Bionic Woman''' that had a Hiro Cameo, but wasn't sure where to put it. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 11/29/2007 10:28 (EST)</small> |
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* [[List of references to Heroes]].--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 14:53, 29 November 2007 (EST) |
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=='Watchmen' Reference== |
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In the episode 'It's Coming', when Elle burns off Sylar's flesh, and we see him reduced to a skeleton, it is a clear reference to a panel in the graphic novel 'Watchmen', and anyone who has read the novel will get what I am talking about. The thing I am reffering to occurs in Chapter 4 of 'Watchmen'. |
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[[User:JHero|JHero]] <small>[[User talk:JHero|(talk)]]</small> 10:14, 30 December 2008 (EST) |
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:Problem is, he's not reduced to a skeleton, he is badly burned, but I don't remember seeing any bones. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 10:58, 30 December 2008 (EST) |
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::He wasn't reduced to a skeleton, but we could see his skull through his skin. I fail to see how that's a reference to ''Watchmen''; seeing one's bones through one's skin whilst being electrocuted is a common effect in fiction. It would also help, JHero, if you posted an actual link to the comic's panel or at least described what was in it, instead of limiting the number of people who would understand your supposed reference to ''Watchmen'' fans. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 13:32, 1 January 2009 (EST) |
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:I think, being that Sylar is also the son of a watchmaker, like Dr. Manhattan, we can assume that any references are intentional, especially one that is so similar. [[User:JHero|JHero]] <small>[[User talk:JHero|(talk)]]</small> 10:45, 1 January 2009 (EST) |
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:: I don't think we can assume that references are intentional unless they are explicit or confirmed. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:48, 1 January 2009 (EST) |
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== Split == |
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I suggest we split this portal into "References to Films", "References to Comics", and "References to Other Works". |
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{|class=wikitable |
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! References to Films !! References to Comics !! References to Other Works |
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* [[Akira]] |
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* [[Back to the Future]] |
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* [[Batman]] |
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* [[The Breakfast Club]] |
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* [[A Clockwork Orange]] |
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* [[Fight Club]] |
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* [[Nosferatu]] |
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* [[Psycho]] |
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* [[Rain Man]] |
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* [[Star Wars]] |
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* [[Aspen Comics]] |
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* [[DC Comics]] |
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* [[Fantastic Four]] |
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* [[The Hulk]] |
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* [[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure]] |
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* [[Marvel Comics]] |
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* [[Pikachu]] |
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* [[Spider-Man]] |
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* [[Superman]] |
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* [[X-Men]] |
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* [[Back Dorm Boys]] |
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* [[Ray Bradbury]] |
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* [[Jazz]] |
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* [[Las Vegas (TV series)]] |
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* [[Mazinger robots]] |
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* [[Mr. Roboto]] |
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* [[NBC]] |
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* [[Role-playing games]] |
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* [[Soma]] |
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* [[Star Trek]] |
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* [[A Tale of Two Cities]] |
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We could certainly split it beyond that (References to Television, References to Literature, References to Music), but I think we should keep it simple for now, and this does the trick. It also makes the portals nice and even. Any thoughts? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:25, 16 March 2009 (EDT) |
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*Makes sense to me. It does look really cluttered the way it is now. --[[User:Whizzles|Whizzles]] 20:36, 16 March 2009 (EDT) |
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** '''Agree'''. I'd put Star Trek in Other works and not in films, since it's more TV show than film. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 20:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT) |
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*** Or maybe just make it "References to Film and Television"? Just a suggestion. --[[User:Whizzles|Whizzles]] 20:44, 16 March 2009 (EDT) |
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**** that works too. --{{User:SacValleyDweller/sig}} 20:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT) |
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***** Good call on ''Star Trek''. I moved it over to "Other". If we put all references to film and TV in one portal, there would be 13 articles there, but only 8 in "Other". I'm fine with keeping ''Star Trek'' in other since it really is a multimedia franchise. I think my thinking originally was to consider it a TV show... I think "Other" is fine for now. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:08, 16 March 2009 (EDT) |
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Latest revision as of 01:08, 17 March 2009
Clockwork Orange
I think the reference to it is too small for a full-fledged article. Heroe 21:26, 7 March 2007 (EST)
- No less than Rain Man or Alcoholics Anonymous. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:03, 7 March 2007 (EST)
- Or Princess Bride which was referenced in Parasite obliquely. Disney42 23:42, 7 March 2007 (EST)
Halloween
I picked up on this earlier today when watching, I think it was, The Hard Part, on DVD.
Molly's line "You can't stop the boogeyman" is extremely similar to Tommy's line at the end of the original Halloween, "You can't kill the boogeyman." Think it's worth mentioning somewhere or am I just reading too much into something (again)? Erika 12:57, 17 September 2007 (EDT)
- Very possible, though it's a pretty general line that might simply mean what it means, and not be a reference to Halloween at all. We certainly don't need an article about Halloween, but I think if you want to put a note on The Hard Part, that'd be fine. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:21, 17 September 2007 (EDT)
In the Commentary for the Line
They referenced a couple of movies, the one I remember the most is North By Northwest during the West/Debbie chase scene. They also mention something earlier in the episode.Random guy 04:40, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
- Indeed, even the storyboard for the scene specifically noted North by Northwest. Personally I'd rather see our Psycho article turned into a Hitchcock article. But I don't see much need for either right now, myself. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 05:54, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
DO we have an -opposite page' to this one?
Where we list shows that reference "Heroes"? Wanted to update it with a clip from last night's Bionic Woman that had a Hiro Cameo, but wasn't sure where to put it. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 11/29/2007 10:28 (EST)
- List of references to Heroes.--Hardvice (talk) 14:53, 29 November 2007 (EST)
'Watchmen' Reference
In the episode 'It's Coming', when Elle burns off Sylar's flesh, and we see him reduced to a skeleton, it is a clear reference to a panel in the graphic novel 'Watchmen', and anyone who has read the novel will get what I am talking about. The thing I am reffering to occurs in Chapter 4 of 'Watchmen'. JHero (talk) 10:14, 30 December 2008 (EST)
- Problem is, he's not reduced to a skeleton, he is badly burned, but I don't remember seeing any bones. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:58, 30 December 2008 (EST)
- He wasn't reduced to a skeleton, but we could see his skull through his skin. I fail to see how that's a reference to Watchmen; seeing one's bones through one's skin whilst being electrocuted is a common effect in fiction. It would also help, JHero, if you posted an actual link to the comic's panel or at least described what was in it, instead of limiting the number of people who would understand your supposed reference to Watchmen fans. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 13:32, 1 January 2009 (EST)
- I think, being that Sylar is also the son of a watchmaker, like Dr. Manhattan, we can assume that any references are intentional, especially one that is so similar. JHero (talk) 10:45, 1 January 2009 (EST)
- I don't think we can assume that references are intentional unless they are explicit or confirmed. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2009 (EST)
Split
I suggest we split this portal into "References to Films", "References to Comics", and "References to Other Works".
| References to Films | References to Comics | References to Other Works |
|---|---|---|
We could certainly split it beyond that (References to Television, References to Literature, References to Music), but I think we should keep it simple for now, and this does the trick. It also makes the portals nice and even. Any thoughts? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:25, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- Makes sense to me. It does look really cluttered the way it is now. --Whizzles 20:36, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- Agree. I'd put Star Trek in Other works and not in films, since it's more TV show than film. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- Or maybe just make it "References to Film and Television"? Just a suggestion. --Whizzles 20:44, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- that works too. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- Good call on Star Trek. I moved it over to "Other". If we put all references to film and TV in one portal, there would be 13 articles there, but only 8 in "Other". I'm fine with keeping Star Trek in other since it really is a multimedia franchise. I think my thinking originally was to consider it a TV show... I think "Other" is fine for now. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- that works too. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- Or maybe just make it "References to Film and Television"? Just a suggestion. --Whizzles 20:44, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
- Agree. I'd put Star Trek in Other works and not in films, since it's more TV show than film. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT)