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| ⚫ | | Claude was part of a former generation of heroes from the seventies and eighties. Because of this, he has trained or been trained by members of the last generation. || None || {{plus}} His comment "Oh, one of ''those''" may indicate that he has experience hunting down and training someone who has empathic power absorption - and as a possible former hunter, knows what's at stake if Peter doesn't control his power.<br /> |
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| Claude is [[Abigail]]'s father. || The introduction in ''[[Graphic Novel: Rebellion, Part 3| Rebellion]]'' || {{plus}} Claude appeared to be very concerned of her well being while being attacked by the government. He also silenced her just before she finished the sentence "He's my..."<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | Claude was part of a former generation of heroes from the seventies and eighties. Because of this, he has trained or been trained by members of the last generation. || None |
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:{{minus}} Claude worked for [[the Company]], recieving experience with other [[evolved humans]], most likely a few [[empathic mimicry|empaths]] as well.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Claude worked for [[the Company]], recieving experience with other [[evolved humans]], most likely a few [[empathic mimicry|empaths]] as well.<br /> |
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| Claude trained [[the Haitian]] in how to use his [[ |
| Claude trained [[the Haitian]] in how to use his [[Mental manipulation|abilities]] better. || None || {{plus}} It appears Claude may have trained other [[evolved humans]] in how to use their powers.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Training [[Peter]], who is related to [[Arthur Petrelli|a former boss]], was stated to have been due to his [[induced radioactivity]] getting out of control (''[[Episode:Distractions|Distractions]]''). It does not suggest he has previous experience in training others.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Training [[Peter]], who is related to [[Arthur Petrelli|a former boss]], was stated to have been due to his [[induced radioactivity]] getting out of control (''[[Episode:Distractions|Distractions]]''). It does not suggest he has previous experience in training others.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Claude's history with the Company is confirmed in ''[[Company Man]]''.<br /> |
{{plus}} Claude's history with the Company is confirmed in ''[[Company Man]]''.<br /> |
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| Claude removed the tissue containing the [[the mark|tracking mechanism]] that was planted in his back by [[the Company]]. || None |
| Claude removed the tissue containing the [[the mark|tracking mechanism]] that was planted in his back by [[the Company]]. || None || {{plus}} Claude may have had an "old school" device rather than a radioactive isotope. Technology has bound to have changed. The radioactive isotope used to track could be a relatively new method adopted after Claude dropped off the grid.<br /> |
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{{plus}} His scar looked like a crater, as if something had been burned out of his body.<br /> |
{{plus}} His scar looked like a crater, as if something had been burned out of his body.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Claude says that [[Peter]] led them straight to him.<br /> |
{{plus}} Claude says that [[Peter]] led them straight to him.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It would be hard to spot somebody who is [[invisibility|invisible]], even if you could track their location.<br /> |
:{{minus}} It would be hard to spot somebody who is [[invisibility|invisible]], even if you could track their location.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Ian Michaels]] is listed as having been implanted with a GPS microchip in 2004. If the 1988 tracking gun, which predates that, used something along those lines, Claude would have had something to remove.<br /> |
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| Claude was protecting a young [[Sylar]]. || Claude was shot for allegedly protecting an [[evolved human]]. (''[[Company Man]]'') || {{minus}} It seems unlikely that Gabriel Gray's initial ability would have been detected so early, especially when [[Chandra]] could not detect it using modern medical equipment that can detect [[telepathy]] (such as the equipment measuring the resting rates of [[Matt Parkman]]).<br /> |
| Claude was protecting a young [[Sylar]]. || Claude was shot for allegedly protecting an [[evolved human]]. (''[[Company Man]]'') || {{minus}} It seems unlikely that Gabriel Gray's initial ability would have been detected so early, especially when [[Chandra]] could not detect it using modern medical equipment that can detect [[telepathy]] (such as the equipment measuring the resting rates of [[Matt Parkman]]).<br /> |
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{{minus}} Sylar appears to have been oblivious to other evolved humans until Chandra's arrival in ''[[Episode:Six Months Ago|Six Months Ago]]''. Had Claude been protecting him, he would have most likely been informed of the situation.<br /> |
{{minus}} Sylar appears to have been oblivious to other evolved humans until Chandra's arrival in ''[[Episode:Six Months Ago|Six Months Ago]]''. Had Claude been protecting him, he would have most likely been informed of the situation.<br /> |
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| Claude was protecting [[Meredith]]. || None |
| Claude was protecting [[Meredith]]. || None || {{plus}} [[Tim Kring]] said Claude and Meredith would have a connection, and it's possible that he found her later after the fire or was even him who suggested Meredith to create the fire and play dead.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Tim Kring also had to rewrite much of his script due to the writer's strike. This might have been an idea that was scratched.<br /> |
:{{note}} Tim Kring also had to rewrite much of his script due to the writer's strike. This might have been an idea that was scratched.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It has been stated by the writers that the person he was protecting is "...someone we know".<br /> |
{{plus}} It has been stated by the writers that the person he was protecting is "...someone we know".<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Bennet]] was sent to bring [[Claire]] in to [[the Company]], and arranged to have [[the Haitian]] stage a attempted murder and kidnapping. This does not rule out that Claude could have Meredith do the same thing.<br /> |
:{{plus}} [[Bennet]] was sent to bring [[Claire]] in to [[the Company]], and arranged to have [[the Haitian]] stage a attempted murder and kidnapping. This does not rule out that Claude could have Meredith do the same thing.<br /> |
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| Claude trained [[Maury Parkman]]. || None |
| Claude trained [[Maury Parkman]]. || None || {{plus}} We know Claude trained someone who he considered dangerous.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Maury was in the group of twelve, and likely honed his powers before Claude.<br /> |
{{minus}} Maury was in the group of twelve, and likely honed his powers before Claude.<br /> |
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| Claude Rains was protecting [[Claire Bennet]]. || None |
| Claude Rains was protecting [[Claire Bennet]]. || None || {{plus}} When [[Noah Bennet]] asks Claude the identity of the person he is protecting, Claude says, "What if it is your little girl?", implying that the child is the one he is protecting.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Claude was known to be [[irony|sarcastic]]. This was most likely just a quip.<br /> |
:{{note}} Claude was known to be [[irony|sarcastic]]. This was most likely just a quip.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Bennet tells [[the Haitian]] to shoot him in one specific spot so it wouldn't kill him; he shoots Claude Rains in the same spot, right after Claude tells Mr. Bennet he might be protecting his daughter.<br /> |
{{plus}} Bennet tells [[the Haitian]] to shoot him in one specific spot so it wouldn't kill him; he shoots Claude Rains in the same spot, right after Claude tells Mr. Bennet he might be protecting his daughter.<br /> |
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{{minus}}Mr. Bennet is protecting Claire.<br /> |
{{minus}} Mr. Bennet is protecting Claire.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Claude was Bennet's partner.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Claude was Bennet's partner.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Claude could have been protecting a future Claire that [[space-time manipulation|time traveled]] into the past.<br /> |
{{plus}} Claude could have been protecting a future Claire that [[space-time manipulation|time traveled]] into the past.<br /> |
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| Claude was protecting [[Rollo Fusor's accomplice]]. || None |
| Claude was protecting [[Rollo Fusor's accomplice]]. || None || {{minus}} The accomplice died in [[1990]]. Claude is ordered to be killed in [[1999]] for protecting an [[evolved human]].<br /> |
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{{minus}} Claude was one of the woman's victims and has no perceivable reason for protecting her.<br /> |
{{minus}} Claude was one of the woman's victims and has no perceivable reason for protecting her.<br /> |
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{{note}} In [[Interview:Golden Handshake]], the writers have confirmed that the depicted events were from Claude's report, and that the report was falsified.<br /> |
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| Claude is going to be killed by [[Sylar]] at some point and have [[invisibility|his power]] taken. || After [[Peter]] became invisible in ''[[.07%]]'', Sylar said that he "couldn't wait to try that one". Sylar usually goes after the people with powers he wants. || {{minus}} Sylar was referring to the fact that he planned to shortly kill Peter and take all his powers.<br /> |
| Claude is going to be killed by [[Sylar]] at some point and have [[invisibility|his power]] taken. || After [[Peter]] became invisible in ''[[.07%]]'', Sylar said that he "couldn't wait to try that one". Sylar usually goes after the people with powers he wants. || {{minus}} Sylar was referring to the fact that he planned to shortly kill Peter and take all his powers.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Claude worked for [[the company]] during the time Arthur was in control.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Claude worked for [[the company]] during the time Arthur was in control.<br /> |
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| Claude survived the fall and the gunshot wounds he received in ''[[Company Man]]'' because he had a needle and a supply of either [[Adam]]'s or [[Claire]]'s blood. || None |
| Claude survived the fall and the gunshot wounds he received in ''[[Company Man]]'' because he had a needle and a supply of either [[Adam]]'s or [[Claire]]'s blood. || None || {{plus}} It seems impossible that anyone who's only power is invisibility could survive two bullets to the chest and a 40 foot fall by normal means.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He could have clung to the ledge and/or hoisted himself back up onto the bridge. Bennet only assumed he had fallen.<br /> |
:{{minus}} He could have clung to the ledge and/or hoisted himself back up onto the bridge. Bennet only assumed he had fallen.<br /> |
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{{plus}} We've seen that [[the Company]] keeps their prisoners on special drugs to disable their powers, which would likely disable his bloods healing power. If they were doing this to [[Adam]], they may not have wanted to take him off the drug just to get at his blood for fear of his escape.<br /> |
{{plus}} We've seen that [[the Company]] keeps their prisoners on special drugs to disable their powers, which would likely disable his bloods healing power. If they were doing this to [[Adam]], they may not have wanted to take him off the drug just to get at his blood for fear of his escape.<br /> |
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{{minus}} None of the Company's agents was known to possess a sample of regenerative blood.<br /> |
{{minus}} None of the Company's agents was known to possess a sample of regenerative blood.<br /> |
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| [[Claude]] once knew [[Linda Tavara]]. || None |
| [[Claude]] once knew [[Linda Tavara]]. || None || {{plus}} When [[Peter]] explained to Claude how [[empathic mimicry|his ability]] works, Claude said "one of those" as if he'd met someone with a similar ability. [[Aura absorption|Linda's ability]] is probably to steal the abilities of others, making her similar to Peter.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He worked at the company hunting [[evolved humans]] under [[Arthur Petrelli]]'s command. He most likely had experience with other mimics, possibly referring to [[power absorption|Arthur's power]].<br /> |
:{{minus}} He worked at the company hunting [[evolved humans]] under [[Arthur Petrelli]]'s command. He most likely had experience with other mimics, possibly referring to [[power absorption|Arthur's power]].<br /> |
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{{minus}} Linda died before the formation of the [[Company]]. (''[[War Buddies, Part 7]]'')<br /> |
{{minus}} Linda died before the formation of the [[Company]]. (''[[War Buddies, Part 7]]'')<br /> |
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:{{plus}} If Linda was multipowered, it is entirely possible that she had the ability of [[replication]], [[rapid cell regeneration]], [[pyrokinesis]], or some other ability that allowed her to survive being struck and burned.<br /> |
:{{plus}} If Linda was multipowered, it is entirely possible that she had the ability of [[replication]], [[rapid cell regeneration]], [[pyrokinesis]], or some other ability that allowed her to survive being struck and burned.<br /> |
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{{note}} Although this theory may prove to be true, power theft and empathy are not the same thing. Peter just has to meet someone to absorb their powers, whereas Linda had to physically touch someone to gain their power.<br /> |
{{note}} Although this theory may prove to be true, power theft and empathy are not the same thing. Peter just has to meet someone to absorb their powers, whereas Linda had to physically touch someone to gain their power.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Linda can tell if a person has abilities, and it's unlikely it's possible [[Invisibility|to conceal]] one's aura.<br /> |
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| Claude's ability is actually a limited form of [[illusion]], which he can use to hide himself and the objects he touches. || None. || {{plus}} Claude obviously can see himself invisible, and so could Peter see him. This suggests the power is less than complete invisiblity.<br /> |
| Claude's ability is actually a limited form of [[illusion]], which he can use to hide himself and the objects he touches. || None. || {{plus}} Claude obviously can see himself invisible, and so could Peter see him. This suggests the power is less than complete invisiblity.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Peter was also immune to [[space-time manipulation]] thanks to [[empathic mimicry]].<br /> |
:{{note}} Peter was also immune to [[space-time manipulation]] thanks to [[empathic mimicry]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Claude never stated he could see himself while invisible.<br /> |
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{{minus}} His ability may allow him to see through the molecular reconstruction that causes him to become invisible.<br /> |
{{minus}} His ability may allow him to see through the molecular reconstruction that causes him to become invisible.<br /> |
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| Claude is [[Abigail]]'s father. || The introduction in ''[[Graphic Novel: Rebellion, Part 3| Rebellion]]'' || {{plus}} Claude appeared to be very concerned of her well being while being attacked by the government. He also silenced her just before she finished the sentence "He's my..."<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Micah]] refered to them as a family ([[Rebellion, Part 3]]).<br /> |
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{{minus}} The "family" [[Micah]] could have been referring to may have just been Abigail and Lee as they are engaged and also the group sent by Building 26 did not have countermeasures for invisibility. |
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| Claude will be back in future episodes. || [[Shadowboxing]] || {{plus}} Noah was talking about Claude in Shadowboxing, so the writers didn't forget about him.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Actually, some characters were mentioned and returned: Virginia, The Haitian...<br /> |
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| [[Claude]] and [[Sylvia]] are the parents of [[Abigail]], who is the "it" that [[Thompson]] was looking for. || ''[[From the Files of Primatech, Part 5]]'' || {{plus}} Sylvia and Abigail resemble each other.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Sylvia seems surprised that Claude is working with Thompson. She seems more concerned with the danger represented by Thompson to Claude rather than the danger represented by Thomson ''and'' Claude.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Sylvia nearly kills Claude in [[From the Files of Primatech, Part 6]]. If they did know each other from before, she has no affection from him in the present.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Claude says he once "shagged" a woman named Sylvia.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} But neither of them act as if they know each other, and the woman Claude shagged wasn't in Brazil.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The "it" Thompson was looking for is the pneumatic needle used to "tag" specials, as revealed in [[From the Files of Primatech, Part 6]].<br /> |
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| Claude was part of a former generation of heroes from the seventies and eighties. Because of this, he has trained or been trained by members of the last generation. | None | + His comment "Oh, one of those" may indicate that he has experience hunting down and training someone who has empathic power absorption - and as a possible former hunter, knows what's at stake if Peter doesn't control his power.
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| Claude trained the Haitian in how to use his abilities better. | None | + It appears Claude may have trained other evolved humans in how to use their powers.
+ Claude's history with the Company is confirmed in Company Man. |
| Claude removed the tissue containing the tracking mechanism that was planted in his back by the Company. | None | + Claude may have had an "old school" device rather than a radioactive isotope. Technology has bound to have changed. The radioactive isotope used to track could be a relatively new method adopted after Claude dropped off the grid. + His scar looked like a crater, as if something had been burned out of his body.
+ Ian Michaels is listed as having been implanted with a GPS microchip in 2004. If the 1988 tracking gun, which predates that, used something along those lines, Claude would have had something to remove. |
| Claude was protecting a young Sylar. | Claude was shot for allegedly protecting an evolved human. (Company Man) | - It seems unlikely that Gabriel Gray's initial ability would have been detected so early, especially when Chandra could not detect it using modern medical equipment that can detect telepathy (such as the equipment measuring the resting rates of Matt Parkman). - Sylar appears to have been oblivious to other evolved humans until Chandra's arrival in Six Months Ago. Had Claude been protecting him, he would have most likely been informed of the situation. |
| Claude was protecting Meredith. | None | + Tim Kring said Claude and Meredith would have a connection, and it's possible that he found her later after the fire or was even him who suggested Meredith to create the fire and play dead.
+ It has been stated by the writers that the person he was protecting is "...someone we know".
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| Claude trained Maury Parkman. | None | + We know Claude trained someone who he considered dangerous. - Maury was in the group of twelve, and likely honed his powers before Claude. |
| Claude Rains was protecting Claire Bennet. | None | + When Noah Bennet asks Claude the identity of the person he is protecting, Claude says, "What if it is your little girl?", implying that the child is the one he is protecting.
+ Bennet tells the Haitian to shoot him in one specific spot so it wouldn't kill him; he shoots Claude Rains in the same spot, right after Claude tells Mr. Bennet he might be protecting his daughter.
+ Claude could have been protecting a future Claire that time traveled into the past. |
| Claude was protecting Rollo Fusor's accomplice. | None | - The accomplice died in 1990. Claude is ordered to be killed in 1999 for protecting an evolved human. - Claude was one of the woman's victims and has no perceivable reason for protecting her. |
| Claude is going to be killed by Sylar at some point and have his power taken. | After Peter became invisible in .07%, Sylar said that he "couldn't wait to try that one". Sylar usually goes after the people with powers he wants. | - Sylar was referring to the fact that he planned to shortly kill Peter and take all his powers. - Sylar is yet unaware of Claude's existence, and Claude is reported to be dead. |
| Claude was protecting Victoria Pratt. | Pratt was in hiding and Angela kept Pratt's whereabouts a secret. (Cautionary Tales) | • This would imply further that Pratt had an ability. - Pratt already had a hiding place. |
| Peter was the first empathic mimic that Claude had met, but he mistook Peter's empathic mimicry for another ability that allows the copying of powers. | Claude says to Peter, "Fantastic, one of those." (The Fix) | + Claude tried to convince Peter that he needed to forget his benefactors instead of remembering them to access their individual powers. + It is likely that Linda's ability was to steal the abilities of others. This may be the ability referred to.
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| Claude survived the fall and the gunshot wounds he received in Company Man because he had a needle and a supply of either Adam's or Claire's blood. | None | + It seems impossible that anyone who's only power is invisibility could survive two bullets to the chest and a 40 foot fall by normal means.
+ We've seen that the Company keeps their prisoners on special drugs to disable their powers, which would likely disable his bloods healing power. If they were doing this to Adam, they may not have wanted to take him off the drug just to get at his blood for fear of his escape. |
| Claude once knew Linda Tavara. | None | + When Peter explained to Claude how his ability works, Claude said "one of those" as if he'd met someone with a similar ability. Linda's ability is probably to steal the abilities of others, making her similar to Peter.
- Linda died before the formation of the Company. (War Buddies, Part 7)
• Although this theory may prove to be true, power theft and empathy are not the same thing. Peter just has to meet someone to absorb their powers, whereas Linda had to physically touch someone to gain their power. |
| Claude's ability is actually a limited form of illusion, which he can use to hide himself and the objects he touches. | None. | + Claude obviously can see himself invisible, and so could Peter see him. This suggests the power is less than complete invisiblity.
- His ability may allow him to see through the molecular reconstruction that causes him to become invisible. |
| Claude is Abigail's father. | The introduction in Rebellion | + Claude appeared to be very concerned of her well being while being attacked by the government. He also silenced her just before she finished the sentence "He's my..." + They are both very protective of one another. (Rebellion, Part 3 and Sum Quod Sum, Part 2) |
| Abigail was the evolved human Claude was protecting when he was an agent. | None | + If Claude is Abigail's dad, then this would seem likely. + If Claude is Abigail's older brother or uncle this could also be likely.
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| Claude will be back in future episodes. | Shadowboxing | + Noah was talking about Claude in Shadowboxing, so the writers didn't forget about him.
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| Claude and Sylvia are the parents of Abigail, who is the "it" that Thompson was looking for. | From the Files of Primatech, Part 5 | + Sylvia and Abigail resemble each other. + Sylvia seems surprised that Claude is working with Thompson. She seems more concerned with the danger represented by Thompson to Claude rather than the danger represented by Thomson and Claude.
+ Claude says he once "shagged" a woman named Sylvia.
- The "it" Thompson was looking for is the pneumatic needle used to "tag" specials, as revealed in From the Files of Primatech, Part 6. |
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