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well apparently she can steal powers but kills them in the process, as well kills anything else. It's also interesting that they added aura to the mix. If we were to rename her ability, Energy Absorbtion is the only thing I could think of. So could Aura absorbtion but that just seems to odd. It also seems like she feeds on it, not in a way that she needs it or she dies but to enhance her own abilities like a drug or something. I did find it odd that if Linda did have other abilities, I wonder why Linderman took her down so easily. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 07:51, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
well apparently she can steal powers but kills them in the process, as well kills anything else. It's also interesting that they added aura to the mix. If we were to rename her ability, Energy Absorbtion is the only thing I could think of. So could Aura absorbtion but that just seems to odd. It also seems like she feeds on it, not in a way that she needs it or she dies but to enhance her own abilities like a drug or something. I did find it odd that if Linda did have other abilities, I wonder why Linderman took her down so easily. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 07:51, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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* Maybe none of her powers were offensive ones. Mediumship doesn't really help, unless she could see Au Co yelling from the dead or something. But her ghost'd probably be in Vietnam. --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 09:49, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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** Perhaps we'll find out in Linda backstory part 3 that Au Co's ghost was haunting Linderman and followed him to America? On the other hand, [[Mrs. Tavara|Linda's mom]] definately has an Asian appearance so maybe Linda was born in or travelled to Vietnam before ''Moonlight Serenade''?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:14, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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*** Linda's mom has an Asian appearance because [[Jason Badower]]'s sister was the model for her. ''Moonlight Serenade'' was the last part in Linda's backstory. Nothing else is planned. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:18, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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**** Actually, I just got an email from [[Joe Tolerico]] describing ''Moonlight Serenade'' as "the third in the four Linda Tavara novels where her hidden power is finally revealed." Yesterday, however, [[R.D. Hall]] said there was another novel planned, but they were probably going to scrap it since R.D. already covered the emotional beats and the power reveal in ''Moonlight Serenade''. It sounds as though they're in the middle of the decision-making process, and that fourth novel is still up in the air a little. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:39, 10 April 2008 (EDT) |
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* Sounds more and more like Rogue, since by holding on for a long period of time Rogue can kill a person or at least put them into a coma. Linda's ability could easily be called something like 'brain drain', 'soul stealer', 'life stealer'... As for Linderman, he was strong enough to fight back while Mrs. Walker was old and frail. --[[User:PeterDawson|PeterDawson]] 15:01, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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== Ida Walker? == |
== Ida Walker? == |
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Hmm, maybe this sweet old lady is somehow related to [[Molly Walker]]? Just a stupid thought, but you never know. [[User:Ravenka|Ravenka]] 08:08, 8 April 2008 (EDT) (forgot to sign.) |
Hmm, maybe this sweet old lady is somehow related to [[Molly Walker]]? Just a stupid thought, but you never know. [[User:Ravenka|Ravenka]] 08:08, 8 April 2008 (EDT) (forgot to sign.) |
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* Possibly - Molly's power works on living people, whereas Ida's works on dead ones? --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 09:46, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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** I wouldn't rule out Ida being a grandmother, great grandmother or great aunt to Molly. I think it'd be appropriate to see Mohinder or Matt do some research into her family to see if there was anyone else more suitable to care for her, but I'm not sure the script writers will think of that. I guess we'll have to wait and see.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:18, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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***According to the new Wireless, Ida Mae is one of Molly's relatives, but he/she doesn't specify whether it's direct ancestry (e.g. grandparent) or indirect (e.g. great-aunt or cousin). --[[User:Psiphiorg|Psiphiorg]] 21:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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****Yaaay. I guess I was right after all. :) [[User:Ravenka|Ravenka]] 16:07, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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**** For what it's worth, [[R.D. Hall]] did not invent Ida May Walker's name. The name came as a specific directive from [[NBC]]. Hmmm. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:19, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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***** Ryan, can you find a way to source this, and put it as a 'Note' on Ida Mae's page? <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 04/9/2008 09:29 (EST)</small> |
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****** Absolutely... after the [[Interview:R.D. Hall|interview]] is transcribed. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:11, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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So, does Linda have mediumship now? She can see the spirits of the dead, thanks to that Walker woman. --[[User:DocM|DocM]] 09:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
So, does Linda have mediumship now? She can see the spirits of the dead, thanks to that Walker woman. --[[User:DocM|DocM]] 09:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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* Yep, it seems so. [[Evolved humans]] must have auras brighter than normal people and what with Ida's talk of angels. --[[User:NellaBishop|NellaBishop]] 09:43, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
* Yep, it seems so. [[Evolved humans]] must have auras brighter than normal people and what with Ida's talk of angels. --[[User:NellaBishop|NellaBishop]] 09:43, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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Ida's angels were actually spirits of dead people (or so we assume), and Linda lied about being an angel. In the end, she really did get killed by Linderman. --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 09:50, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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:Ironic that she pretended to be dead, and then many years later, was eventually killed? Hmm... nope. Most people die someday, it's not that surprising that she did as well. --[[User:Maelwys|Maelwys]] 11:03, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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::She lied about being an angel (not knowing that Ida's angels were dead people at that time) to get a powered aura. She died trying to get a powered aura. I'd say it's ironic enough. If she was killed in a car accident or if she died of old age, then I'd think differently, but now, I think it's interesting to consider. --[[User:Ciwey|Ciwey]] 12:20, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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:::Hmm... I still consider that a pretty sketchy connection. And I don't think she lied to get the aura. She just lied to make an old woman feel at peace before dying, by making her think that there was an angel come to take her to heaven, instead of somebody who'd come to kill her. If Linda'd been honest and said "Nope. I'm just here to kill you" it wouldn't have changed anything (in regards to killing her or getting the power), it just would've meant that Ida died in terror instead of at peace. I think that the lie isn't there to make an ironic statement (nor do I think that it does make an ironic statement), I think it's just there to show that Linda has a human side to her, she's not a monster. --[[User:Maelwys|Maelwys]] 13:54, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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Anyone else notice that the hippy in the street scene had a bright, psychedelic aura, while the two men near him had plain ones? Just sayin'. --{{User:Heroe/sig}} 12:46, 8 April 2008 (EDT) |
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*Yeah, I thought it was really cool. ;) [[User:Ravenka|Ravenka]] 09:11, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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==Where on Earth is Linda?== |
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* It's [[Wikipedia:Perth, Western Australia|Perth, Australia]]. Identified by the [[Wikipedia:BankWest Tower|BankWest Tower]] and the [[Wikipedia:Central Park (skyscraper)|Central Park Tower]] reflected on her window. Check out [http://picasaweb.google.com/anthony.stewart/RedbullAirRace/photo#5025384898728510514 these] [http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/1479/capsq4ub7.jpg pics] of the Perth skyline. [[Image:Chrisyudbsname.JPG|80px]][[Image:Chrisyudbstalk.JPG|40px]] 09:09, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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** Both angels visions in 1967... Bank West Tower: Construction began in 1981 and was completed in 1988, Central Park completed in 1992 --[[User:Juba|Juba]] 13:56, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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*** That's just [[Jason Badower]] using local references. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:12, 9 April 2008 (EDT) |
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Interesting
well apparently she can steal powers but kills them in the process, as well kills anything else. It's also interesting that they added aura to the mix. If we were to rename her ability, Energy Absorbtion is the only thing I could think of. So could Aura absorbtion but that just seems to odd. It also seems like she feeds on it, not in a way that she needs it or she dies but to enhance her own abilities like a drug or something. I did find it odd that if Linda did have other abilities, I wonder why Linderman took her down so easily. --Dman dustin 07:51, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Maybe none of her powers were offensive ones. Mediumship doesn't really help, unless she could see Au Co yelling from the dead or something. But her ghost'd probably be in Vietnam. --Ciwey 09:49, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Perhaps we'll find out in Linda backstory part 3 that Au Co's ghost was haunting Linderman and followed him to America? On the other hand, Linda's mom definately has an Asian appearance so maybe Linda was born in or travelled to Vietnam before Moonlight Serenade?--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Linda's mom has an Asian appearance because Jason Badower's sister was the model for her. Moonlight Serenade was the last part in Linda's backstory. Nothing else is planned. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:18, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Actually, I just got an email from Joe Tolerico describing Moonlight Serenade as "the third in the four Linda Tavara novels where her hidden power is finally revealed." Yesterday, however, R.D. Hall said there was another novel planned, but they were probably going to scrap it since R.D. already covered the emotional beats and the power reveal in Moonlight Serenade. It sounds as though they're in the middle of the decision-making process, and that fourth novel is still up in the air a little. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
- Linda's mom has an Asian appearance because Jason Badower's sister was the model for her. Moonlight Serenade was the last part in Linda's backstory. Nothing else is planned. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:18, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Perhaps we'll find out in Linda backstory part 3 that Au Co's ghost was haunting Linderman and followed him to America? On the other hand, Linda's mom definately has an Asian appearance so maybe Linda was born in or travelled to Vietnam before Moonlight Serenade?--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Sounds more and more like Rogue, since by holding on for a long period of time Rogue can kill a person or at least put them into a coma. Linda's ability could easily be called something like 'brain drain', 'soul stealer', 'life stealer'... As for Linderman, he was strong enough to fight back while Mrs. Walker was old and frail. --PeterDawson 15:01, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
Ida Walker?
Hmm, maybe this sweet old lady is somehow related to Molly Walker? Just a stupid thought, but you never know. Ravenka 08:08, 8 April 2008 (EDT) (forgot to sign.)
- Possibly - Molly's power works on living people, whereas Ida's works on dead ones? --Ciwey 09:46, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- I wouldn't rule out Ida being a grandmother, great grandmother or great aunt to Molly. I think it'd be appropriate to see Mohinder or Matt do some research into her family to see if there was anyone else more suitable to care for her, but I'm not sure the script writers will think of that. I guess we'll have to wait and see.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:18, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- According to the new Wireless, Ida Mae is one of Molly's relatives, but he/she doesn't specify whether it's direct ancestry (e.g. grandparent) or indirect (e.g. great-aunt or cousin). --Psiphiorg 21:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Yaaay. I guess I was right after all. :) Ravenka 16:07, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- For what it's worth, R.D. Hall did not invent Ida May Walker's name. The name came as a specific directive from NBC. Hmmm. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:19, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Ryan, can you find a way to source this, and put it as a 'Note' on Ida Mae's page? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 04/9/2008 09:29 (EST)
- Absolutely... after the interview is transcribed. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:11, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- Ryan, can you find a way to source this, and put it as a 'Note' on Ida Mae's page? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 04/9/2008 09:29 (EST)
- According to the new Wireless, Ida Mae is one of Molly's relatives, but he/she doesn't specify whether it's direct ancestry (e.g. grandparent) or indirect (e.g. great-aunt or cousin). --Psiphiorg 21:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- I wouldn't rule out Ida being a grandmother, great grandmother or great aunt to Molly. I think it'd be appropriate to see Mohinder or Matt do some research into her family to see if there was anyone else more suitable to care for her, but I'm not sure the script writers will think of that. I guess we'll have to wait and see.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:18, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
Mediumship
So, does Linda have mediumship now? She can see the spirits of the dead, thanks to that Walker woman. --DocM 09:06, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Yep, it seems so. Evolved humans must have auras brighter than normal people and what with Ida's talk of angels. --NellaBishop 09:43, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
Ironic?
Ida's angels were actually spirits of dead people (or so we assume), and Linda lied about being an angel. In the end, she really did get killed by Linderman. --Ciwey 09:50, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Ironic that she pretended to be dead, and then many years later, was eventually killed? Hmm... nope. Most people die someday, it's not that surprising that she did as well. --Maelwys 11:03, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- She lied about being an angel (not knowing that Ida's angels were dead people at that time) to get a powered aura. She died trying to get a powered aura. I'd say it's ironic enough. If she was killed in a car accident or if she died of old age, then I'd think differently, but now, I think it's interesting to consider. --Ciwey 12:20, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- Hmm... I still consider that a pretty sketchy connection. And I don't think she lied to get the aura. She just lied to make an old woman feel at peace before dying, by making her think that there was an angel come to take her to heaven, instead of somebody who'd come to kill her. If Linda'd been honest and said "Nope. I'm just here to kill you" it wouldn't have changed anything (in regards to killing her or getting the power), it just would've meant that Ida died in terror instead of at peace. I think that the lie isn't there to make an ironic statement (nor do I think that it does make an ironic statement), I think it's just there to show that Linda has a human side to her, she's not a monster. --Maelwys 13:54, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- She lied about being an angel (not knowing that Ida's angels were dead people at that time) to get a powered aura. She died trying to get a powered aura. I'd say it's ironic enough. If she was killed in a car accident or if she died of old age, then I'd think differently, but now, I think it's interesting to consider. --Ciwey 12:20, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
Hehe
Anyone else notice that the hippy in the street scene had a bright, psychedelic aura, while the two men near him had plain ones? Just sayin'. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 12:46, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, I thought it was really cool. ;) Ravenka 09:11, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
Where on Earth is Linda?
- It's Perth, Australia. Identified by the BankWest Tower and the Central Park Tower reflected on her window. Check out these pics of the Perth skyline.
09:09, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- Both angels visions in 1967... Bank West Tower: Construction began in 1981 and was completed in 1988, Central Park completed in 1992 --Juba 13:56, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- That's just Jason Badower using local references. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:12, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
- Both angels visions in 1967... Bank West Tower: Construction began in 1981 and was completed in 1988, Central Park completed in 1992 --Juba 13:56, 9 April 2008 (EDT)