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| |[[Adam Monroe]] is the ancestor of [[Claire]]. || None. || {{plus}} They both have the power of [[rapid cell regeneration]].<br /> |
| |[[Adam Monroe]] is the ancestor of [[Claire]]. || None. || {{plus}} They both have the power of [[rapid cell regeneration]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] both have the same power, as well as [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]]. [[Maya]] and [[Alejandro]] have powers that are connected, so family relations are likely to have an effect on the power.<br /> |
:{{plus}} [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] both have the same power, as well as [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]]. [[Maya]] and [[Alejandro]] have powers that are connected, so family relations are likely to have an effect on the power.<br /> |
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{{plus}} As Kensei, Adam used [[the symbol]] as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice.<br /> |
{{plus}} As Kensei, Adam used [[the symbol]] as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. || None. ||{{plus}}His body is charred in ''[[Out of Time]]'', yet he is seen in the future.<br /> |
| [[Adam Monroe]] can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. || None. || {{plus}}His body is charred in ''[[Out of Time]]'', yet he is seen in the future.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Given Adam/Kensei's penchant for using stand-ins, the corpse could easily be some unlucky disciple of White Beard.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Given Adam/Kensei's penchant for using stand-ins, the corpse could easily be some unlucky disciple of White Beard.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He could have also simply regenerated.<br /> |
:{{minus}} He could have also simply regenerated.<br /> |
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| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. || None. || {{plus}} Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death.<br /> |
| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. || None. || {{plus}} Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.<br /> |
{{plus}} Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.<br /> |
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{{minus}}[[Linderman]] was all for blowing up New York City.<br /> |
{{minus}} [[Linderman]] was all for blowing up New York City.<br /> |
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:{{note}} There's a big difference between being willing to kill .07% of the human population, and 93% of the population.<br /> |
:{{note}} There's a big difference between being willing to kill .07% of the human population, and 93% of the population.<br /> |
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{{minus}}Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up.<br /> |
{{minus}} Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up.<br /> |
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{{note}} Linderman could have helped lock him up after their disagreement.<br /> |
{{note}} Linderman could have helped lock him up after their disagreement.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Peter can, theoretically, remove Adam's entire brain from his body, which could prevent regeneration.<br /> |
{{plus}} Peter can, theoretically, remove Adam's entire brain from his body, which could prevent regeneration.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] is the ancestor of [[Hal Sanders|Hal]], [[Niki]] and eventually [[Micah Sanders]]. || None. || {{plus}} He once took the alias "Richard Sanders". |
| [[Adam]] is the ancestor of [[Hal Sanders|Hal]], [[Niki]] and eventually [[Micah Sanders]]. || None. || {{plus}} He once took the alias "Richard Sanders".<br /> |
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{{plus}} He has two children with [[Maria (1747)|Maria in 1747]].<br /> |
{{plus}} He has two children with [[Maria (1747)|Maria in 1747]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} He married in 1958 with Theresa, a woman who never loved him and tried to killed him to live with her lover. They lived in L.A. near Las Vegas in the right period to be Hal Sanders's parents; she could have tricked Adam while he was using the alias Richard Sanders and have a child without his knowledge.<br /> |
{{plus}} He married in 1958 with Theresa, a woman who never loved him and tried to killed him to live with her lover. They lived in L.A. near Las Vegas in the right period to be Hal Sanders's parents; she could have tricked Adam while he was using the alias Richard Sanders and have a child without his knowledge.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} [[Rapid cell regeneration]] trumps induced [[Lightning|electricity]], as per Elle's confrontation with Claire in [[Eris Quod Sum]].<br /> |
::{{minus}} [[Rapid cell regeneration]] trumps induced [[Lightning|electricity]], as per Elle's confrontation with Claire in [[Eris Quod Sum]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
{{plus}} Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle would be bitter towards [[Bob|her father]] for his malicious experiments, and likely to agree with Adam's opposition to [[the Company]] to spite Bob. (''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', ''[[Powerless]]'') |
{{plus}} Elle would be bitter towards [[Bob|her father]] for his malicious experiments, and likely to agree with Adam's opposition to [[the Company]] to spite Bob. (''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', ''[[Powerless]]'')<br /> |
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:{{minus}}Elle did not learn about her father's experiments until after Adam escaped. There would not be enough time for them to form any sort of significant relationship.<br /> |
:{{minus}}Elle did not learn about her father's experiments until after Adam escaped. There would not be enough time for them to form any sort of significant relationship.<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's [[Aoyama Cemetery|new prison]]. |
{{minus}} There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's [[Aoyama Cemetery|new prison]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} ''[[Powerless]]'' left Elle in very close proximity to Molly, easily rectifying this problem. |
:{{plus}} ''[[Powerless]]'' left Elle in very close proximity to Molly, easily rectifying this problem.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Elle's First Assignment]] was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.<br /> |
{{minus}} [[Elle's First Assignment]] was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} If she was so closely watched that [[Bob]] knew about her "affair," then why would he continue to let her give Adam his medicine in the Company's prison? If she wasn't closely watched enough for Bob to be aware of such a thing, then a secret relationship is possible.<br /> |
:{{plus}} If she was so closely watched that [[Bob]] knew about her "affair," then why would he continue to let her give Adam his medicine in the Company's prison? If she wasn't closely watched enough for Bob to be aware of such a thing, then a secret relationship is possible.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} We have only seen Elle give Peter medication; while this does not mean she didn't give Adam any, she probably stopped/was stopped after he "gave in" if she even gave him any to begin with. |
:{{minus}} We have only seen Elle give Peter medication; while this does not mean she didn't give Adam any, she probably stopped/was stopped after he "gave in" if she even gave him any to begin with.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam seems to dislike Elle. |
{{minus}} Adam seems to dislike Elle.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam could have manipulated Elle's weak mental state to get her to marry him. Marriage isn't always about love.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam could have manipulated Elle's weak mental state to get her to marry him. Marriage isn't always about love.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born.<br /> |
{{minus}} Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born.<br /> |
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{{plus}} An urn is clearly shown at Arthur's funeral.<br /> |
{{plus}} An urn is clearly shown at Arthur's funeral.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} In [[Villains]], it is explained that Arthur manipulated Dr. Livitz to cremate another body to fake his death.<br /> |
:{{minus}} In [[Villains]], it is explained that Arthur manipulated Dr. Livitz to cremate another body to fake his death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Nathan says "But I saw..." to Peter at the end of episode 307 as if to suggest he saw his father dead, or being cremated. |
{{plus}} Nathan says "But I saw..." to Peter at the end of episode 307 as if to suggest he saw his father dead, or being cremated.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Or just that Nathan saw a near dead Arthur before his "passing" and was made to believe Arthur's apparent heart attack.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Or just that Nathan saw a near dead Arthur before his "passing" and was made to believe Arthur's apparent heart attack.<br /> |
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{{minus}} This is probably mostly just wishful thinking.<br /> |
{{minus}} This is probably mostly just wishful thinking.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam is seen in Angela Petrelli's dream in episode 302.<br /> |
{{plus}} Adam is seen in Angela Petrelli's dream in episode 302.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Hiro]] can go back to the past and get Adam.<br /> |
{{plus}} [[Hiro]] can go back to the past and get Adam.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} That isn't "bringing Adam back to life". |
:{{minus}} That isn't "bringing Adam back to life". That would be "getting him from the past".<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is no brain left to allow him to regenerate. |
{{minus}} There is no brain left to allow him to regenerate. He is dust.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride doesn't really exist. || None. || {{plus}} The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.<br /> |
| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride doesn't really exist. || None. || {{plus}} The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela was subject to attack by Maury Parkman at Adam's orders.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Angela was subject to attack by Maury Parkman at Adam's orders.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela says this is because Adam is "the key to unlocking this whole mystery."<br /> |
:{{minus}} Angela says this is because Adam is "the key to unlocking this whole mystery."<br /> |
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{{plus}}Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with [[Kaito]], therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well.<br /> |
{{plus}} Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with [[Kaito]], therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If this is true, and Arthur found out about this, that would explain him killing Adam, rather than using his blood to cure himself.<br /> |
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{{minus}}Adam seemed to have a positive opinion of his eleventh bride, whereas Angela was the first he implicated as the possible thief of the formula.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Tracy Strauss]]. || None. || {{plus}} Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and [[Knox]]) in [[Angela's dream]] of the dark future ([[The Butterfly Effect]]).<br /> |
| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Tracy Strauss]]. || None. || {{plus}} Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and [[Knox]]) in [[Angela's dream]] of the dark future ([[The Butterfly Effect]]).<br /> |
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:{{note}} Although these characters could have also been taken back at some point.<br /> |
:{{note}} Although these characters could have also been taken back at some point.<br /> |
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| Adam is the mastermind behind the Season 3 plot. || Adam and Maury Parkman are both seen in Angela's dream, and Arthur Petrelli is not. || {{plus}} Maury has the ability to fake both his own and Adam's death. |
| Adam is the mastermind behind the Season 3 plot. || Adam and Maury Parkman are both seen in Angela's dream, and Arthur Petrelli is not. || {{plus}} Maury has the ability to fake both his own and Adam's death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Maury may be able to suppress others' powers by manipulating their minds, while also able to portray Arthur as alive and having powers. |
{{plus}} Maury may be able to suppress others' powers by manipulating their minds, while also able to portray Arthur as alive and having powers.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} This also explains how Arthur had telepathic communications with Adam!<br /> |
:{{plus}} This also explains how Arthur had telepathic communications with Adam!<br /> |
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{{plus}} Maury has worked for Adam in the past. Maury seems to take the role of a follower, not a leader.<br /> |
{{plus}} Maury has worked for Adam in the past. Maury seems to take the role of a follower, not a leader.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The other main villain to return from the dead may have all been a hallucination manufactured by Maury.<br /> |
{{plus}} The other main villain to return from the dead may have all been a hallucination manufactured by Maury.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This would be totally awesome. |
{{plus}} This would be totally awesome.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It's probably just wishful thinking. |
:{{minus}} It's probably just wishful thinking.<br /> |
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| The manifestation of Adam's ability was related to the [[1671]] eclipse. || The later [[eclipse]] seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. || {{note}} Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when Hiro was there.<br /> |
| The manifestation of Adam's ability was related to the [[1671]] eclipse. || The later [[eclipse]] seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. || {{note}} Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when Hiro was there.<br /> |
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| Adam died after Arthur absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. || None. || {{plus}} Claire was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed.<br /> |
| Adam died after Arthur absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. || None. || {{plus}} Claire was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed.<br /> |
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{{note}} Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.<br/> |
{{note}} Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There is no possible way that bacteria could have decomposed his body and turned him to dust that quickly. Especially in a sterile hospital room.<br /> |
{{plus}} There is no possible way that bacteria could have decomposed his body and turned him to dust that quickly. Especially in a sterile hospital room.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} And there's no way viruses or infections (which are from bacteria) could have killed him that quickly and turned him to dust that quickly either.<br /> |
:{{minus}} And there's no way viruses or infections (which are from bacteria) could have killed him that quickly and turned him to dust that quickly either.<br /> |
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Revision as of 13:28, 18 December 2008
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| Adam Monroe is the ancestor of Claire. | None. | + They both have the power of rapid cell regeneration.
+ They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.
+ Adam's second wife was an Italian woman who bore him two sons. These sons might be ancestors of the Petrelli's and, through Nathan, an ancestor of Claire.
+ As Kensei, Adam used the symbol as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice. |
| Adam Monroe can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. | None. | + His body is charred in Out of Time, yet he is seen in the future.
+ He was able to witness the kiss between Hiro and Yaeko, even through he should be still in Whitebeard's camp given the amount time that passed.
- If rapid cell regeneration also allowed users to clone themselves, this would make Julien's ability completely obsolete.
• Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission. |
| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. | None. | + Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death. + Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.
- Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up. |
| Peter can kill Adam by using phasing. | None. | + Linderman was killed when D.L. phased his hand into his head and removed his brain.
+ Peter can, theoretically, remove Adam's entire brain from his body, which could prevent regeneration. |
| Adam is the ancestor of Hal, Niki and eventually Micah Sanders. | None. | + He once took the alias "Richard Sanders". + He has two children with Maria in 1747.
- Sanders is a common surname, "Like Smith, or Anderson." Adam going by the name of "Richard Sanders" may merely be a coincidence.
- Niki, Tracy, and Barbara, triplets, were separated once their biological parents died. It is very unlikely that Niki and her adoptive father share an ancestor from within the past 400 years. |
| Adam's eleventh bride has an ability similar to Molly's. | Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei) | + It is impossible for anyone else to know where Hiro took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to find people.
- His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Elle. | None. | • The theory goes that Adam and Elle had a secret alliance and relationship. + Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (Four Months Ago...)
+ Elle is the only person besides Peter that Adam has had major contact with in the past 30 years.
+ In Four Months Ago..., the Haitian chased Peter while Elle chased Adam. Peter was easily caught, and he was far more powerful than Adam. It is possible that Elle purposely let Adam escape.
+ Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (Four Months Ago...)
- There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's new prison.
- Elle's First Assignment was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.
- Adam seems to dislike Elle.
- Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born. |
| Adam can still be brought back to life. | As of episode 307 it appears that Arthur Petrelli may have been cremated, and then somehow brought back to life. Although it is possible he was not cremated at all, if he WAS, then this would suggest that although Adam was reduced to ashes, he could be revived in much the same way Arthur was. | • Adam was developed so perfectly in season two to be such a clever silver-tongued villain, I would be extremely disappointed with the producers if he met his end so simply. + An urn is clearly shown at Arthur's funeral.
+ Nathan says "But I saw..." to Peter at the end of episode 307 as if to suggest he saw his father dead, or being cremated.
- This is probably mostly just wishful thinking.
- There is no brain left to allow him to regenerate. He is dust. |
| Adam's eleventh bride doesn't really exist. | None. | + The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.
+ The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in Heroes. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Jessica or another of Niki's alter egos. | None. | + She has the strength to free him from his coffin. + She could've got her last name when Adam was using the Sanders name.
- How would she find him?
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| U.S. President James Monroe was a descendant of Adam. | None. | + They share the last name. + Adam was born over a century before President Monroe. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Linda Tavara. | None. | + Adam says that his newest wife will find him. This seems to imply that this person either has a power, or is a skilled tracker. Linda has a power, and was a private investigator. - Adam already had a wife during the seventies, Trina.
- Linda is dead.
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| Adam's eleventh bride is Daphne Millbrook. | None. | + She seems to be Hiro's nemesis in Season Three - she and Adam may team up against Hiro. + She is rumored to be romantically involved with Hiro. He could break her heart thus her wanting revenge.
• Adam could not have foreseen the above information. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Angela Petrelli. | None. | + Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.
+ Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with Kaito, therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Tracy Strauss. | None. | + Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and Knox) in Angela's dream of the dark future (The Butterfly Effect). - In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli (I Am Become Death).
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| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. | None. | + As of Dying of the Light Adam is now dead and his wife has not yet been revealed.
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| Adam was in fact born in the "present" day and taken back in time and left there. | None. | + It seems that the company created "powers" rather then having them evolve from nothing.
- In the 400 years that Adam has endured, he has met people along the way with powers.
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| Adam is the mastermind behind the Season 3 plot. | Adam and Maury Parkman are both seen in Angela's dream, and Arthur Petrelli is not. | + Maury has the ability to fake both his own and Adam's death. + Maury may be able to suppress others' powers by manipulating their minds, while also able to portray Arthur as alive and having powers.
+ Maury has worked for Adam in the past. Maury seems to take the role of a follower, not a leader.
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| The manifestation of Adam's ability was related to the 1671 eclipse. | The later eclipse seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. | • Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when Hiro was there. |
| Adam died after Arthur absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. | None. | + Claire was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed. • Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.
• The human body is full of important non pathogenic bacteria, without them humans would lack important nutrients, such as vitamin B complex. |
| Adam Monroe survived until 2007 because the eclipses that give and take away powers only happen every 370 years. | Total solar eclipses are rare events. Although they occur somewhere on Earth every 18 months on average, it has been estimated that they recur at any given place only once every 370 years, on average. The total eclipse only lasts for a few minutes at that location, as the Moon's umbra moves eastward at over 1700 km/h. Totality can never last more than 7 min 31 s, and is usually much shorter: during each millennium there are typically fewer than 10 total solar eclipses exceeding 7 minutes. The last time this happened was June 30, 1973 (7 min 3 sec). | + 1603 (Total eclipse) + 68 years = 1671 (Annular, gives and takes away powers) 1973 (Total eclipse) + 34 years = 2007 (Hybrid eclipse, gives and takes away) + But if Hiro Nakamura was never sent to 1671, then Adam would've still became evil. He could trick Hiro into teleporting him to 2011, where he would release the Shanti virus and take over the world. So that Adam could escape the next eclipse in 2041, when he could just use a cryogenic tube or have someone with freezing put him in that state. |
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