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**** This could just be me but last time I saw Molly, she was just a normal 12 year old girl. Since when did she turn into the hindu priest type :S (This is sarcastic by the way) {{User:Gabriel Bishop/sig}} 14:51, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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***** I have to agree, Dennis Calero's depiction of Molly was awful, but I don't know what you're implying with Hindu priests --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 14:57, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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******i thought the same thing as GB. This confused me. And i think he means that she was acting older and the fact that she was in india.--{{User:Catalyst/sig}} 15:01, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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*Molly looked nothing like herself. Can't imagine molly's actress with blonde hair. She looked a lot older as well. It was good to see Claude back, hope he'll be in the TV series. And at least we now know that Monica is ''definitely'' alive.--[[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 18:43, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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**Both Micah and Molly looked like they were in there twenties in this GN. -[[User:Vampirate68|Vampirate68]] 21:57, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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*** We saw Molly in 2011, she didn't look any older than THIS... -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 04:24, 15 July 2009 (EDT) |
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**** She looks at least 30 in this GN. Although I don't really like them dwelling on the whole near past thing, I kinda liked this one. Hopefully they kill off Monica, a shocking death is what the GN needs. --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 17:35, 15 July 2009 (EDT) |
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***** No, no, no! Monica is bad ass, she must return to the show! I'd rather see Abigail and/or Lee get killed... -- [[User:Altes|Altes]] 03:21, 16 July 2009 (EDT) |
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******My vote is for Lee. Monica is the best, and Abigail is really growing on me!If Lee dies tho, Abigail might go all emo and then I wouldn't like her anymore. maybe they'll kill Claude! I don't get what all the hype about him is for... --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 05:01, 16 July 2009 (EDT) |
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****** "'''We saw Molly in 2011, she didn't look any older than THIS'''" that was because it was based on Adair Tishler, and unlike the show where the future is used almost every time, they had to take what they could use. I highly doubt Adair Tishler would look like what she did in that episode in comparison to real life age of that time. I mean look at Noah/Micah he looked drastically different then when Tracy was searching information about Niki to when he showed up again when Tracy froze herself and Danko's men. And its because Noah the actor aged in real life. Heroes may be close to our time line but its slowing down a lot. I mean it's still 2007 there but in real life it's 2009. Plus the Molly we saw on screen was when Daphne and Matt were together in an alternate time line. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 14:46, 18 July 2009 (EDT) |
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==Not Mohinder's Grandmother?== |
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It's been listed as [[Mohinder's grandmother]] in the Character Appearances but we were told that Molly was sent to live with Mohinder's mother, [[Mrs. Suresh]]. If Mohinder has taken up a "fatherly" role with Molly, then his own mother would be a "grandmother" to her. We also don't even know if Mohinder's grandmother is still alive. It would have been 25 years passing since she was last mentioned in 1982 and it's now 2007. So does anyone else think that Mrs. Suresh should be listed instead of Mohinder's grandmother? -- [[User:Cael|Cael]] 14:55, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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*Well, you see... uhhh... hmm... good point. If only BTE was still around, we could ask. Until then I believe that it IS Mohinder's grandmother, and there's someone in Chennai with the healer power to keep her alive so long. --[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 14:58, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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**Personally, I agree with [[User:Cael|Cael]]'s take on the matter ... but what do we do in cases like these where we have no further information ? Hopefully we don't end up refering to her as Mohinder's Relative ... --[[User:LeoChris|LeoChris]] 15:11, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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*** It's hard for me to make up my mind on this. The assignment tracker didn't say who she was with, and in the episode Mohinder only says that he sent her "somewhere safe". Then in a [http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20604 BTE Q&A] with the writers, we get confirmation that she was sent to live with Mohinder's mother. Later, we are told by [[Adair Tishler]], who plays Molly, that she was sent to live with Mohinder's grandparents, not mother. See [http://spoilertv-heroes.blogspot.com/2008/11/new-details-from-heroes-weekend-con-in.html this interview] with Adair. Normally, we go with what the writers say, so my thought is now that this should be changed to Mohinder's mother. As Cael said, Mohinder's mother would be Molly's adopted grandmother. I may change my mind again, but that's what I'm thinking right now...--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:59, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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**** I originally put Grandma Suresh and though creating a new page would be the simplest option as I thought Mohinder's grandmother was dead. However, someone later reminded me she wasn't so I put her, I see the reasoning for saying Mohinder's Mother and think it was probably me misinterpreting what she was saying. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 16:12, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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**** Adair was talking about a deleted scene. The BTE came later. Nothing says this is the same grandmother from Monsters. - [[User:Josh|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh|contribs]]) 16:15, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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***** Do we need a consensus or summit or can we just move it to Mohinder's Mother?--{{User:Danko/Signature}} 16:17, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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****** General policy is to go with what the writers say. I don't think a consensus is needed.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 16:52, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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*******But think about it. If it was Mohinder's Grandmother then it would be Chandra's mother (hence the name Suresh); if Chandra was a doctor in his, we can assume, 20's in the year 1961, then in 2006 (when he died) he would be around the 60 - 70 years old mark. Now, maybe it's just me, but I don't think that his mother would still be alive then, and even less likely in 2008 (is that when this is set?). ANd just look at "Grandma Suresh", i know it's a graphic novel and does not have a great amount of detail, but she has practically no wrinkles, so she is either Mohinder's Mother, or ageing surprisingly well for (minimum) 80 years old. --[[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 08:15, 15 July 2009 (EDT) |
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********It's already been changed to Mohinder's mother.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 12:40, 15 July 2009 (EDT) |
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Am I the only one thinking there is a problem with the current wording of the easter egg ? If it's a behind the scenes image, it's not of Angela and Peter but of Cristine and Milo. That particular picture though, if I remember correctly, was a promo still released for the episode ... So should we just edit it to say it is an in-character picture ? What do you think ? --[[User:LeoChris|LeoChris]] 15:11, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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* It is an in-character image of them. I just changed the wording. Thanks for the heads-up.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:23, 14 July 2009 (EDT) |
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== Dennis Calero == |
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This guy does not impress me at all. Molly looked NOTHING like Adair Tishler, Micah was taller than grown women, and in the second-last panel it looks like Abigail has Maya's power. I wish Jason Badower had done ALL the Rebellion GNs, becuase Calero just isn't up to par (I feel the same exact way about the second installment, also done by him). --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 03:16, 16 July 2009 (EDT) |
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*While badower's is easier to follow, and feels less rushed, his "photo-realistic" (re: tracing) style bugs me and is stiff. It isnt particularly him, all artists who use the technique end up looking like that, and outside of having a show source like heroes, tracing should never happen. (im looking at you Greg Land and David Mack.) But yeah, this and the other Calero GN's are absolutely terrrible. --[[User:Action Figure|Action Figure]] 06:19, 18 July 2009 (EDT) |
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* I thought Micah was Mohinder for about half of the story, since Molly was talking about Mohinder just before he showed up and, well, because he looked more like Mohinder. And Abigail's empty eye sockets genuinely freaked me out. Yeah, bad art. [[User:Revengeance|Revengeance]] 01:03, 19 July 2009 (EDT) |
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When's the next one come out???--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 16:18, 11 August 2009 (EDT) |
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* Supposedly mid-August, so next Tuesday, I think.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:00, 11 August 2009 (EDT) |
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**I remember reading August 18, so MiamiVolts would be right. --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 21:25, 11 August 2009 (EDT) |
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***Oliver Grigsby posted on his twitter that it's August 17th (next monday). The part will be written by Jim Martin drawn by Jason Badower. Can't wait. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 07:15, 12 August 2009 (EDT) |
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*After the seventh (and apparently final) part of Rebellion is released, does anyone know when the next one will be released? And will they be back to the one-weekly schedule when the season starts?[[User:TracyStraussFan|TracyStraussFan]] 17:34, 17 August 2009 (EDT) |
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**I heard that right after pt 7 (which I can't wait for btw) they go back on a weekly scheduale to lead into season 4. I assume that means it wil stay that way during season four as well. --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 00:06, 18 August 2009 (EDT) |
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***I think it's every week in September, but not August 25. - [[User:Josh|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh|contribs]]) 02:50, 18 August 2009 (EDT) |
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Well that was a random GN
WTH loads of old characters appearing, didn't get the storyline at all, weird GN that was.-- By Danko CH 11:58, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- I kind of agree. Wasn't great, but it was ok.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 12:11, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah probably better than 5 though that wasn't hard (lol), but still pretty bad.-- By Danko CH 12:13, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Wow, what a TERRIBLE gn. Dennis Calero can't tell a story worth a crap. --Action Figure 12:28, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- This could just be me but last time I saw Molly, she was just a normal 12 year old girl. Since when did she turn into the hindu priest type :S (This is sarcastic by the way) Gabriel BishopUTC 14:51, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Wow, what a TERRIBLE gn. Dennis Calero can't tell a story worth a crap. --Action Figure 12:28, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah probably better than 5 though that wasn't hard (lol), but still pretty bad.-- By Danko CH 12:13, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Molly looked nothing like herself. Can't imagine molly's actress with blonde hair. She looked a lot older as well. It was good to see Claude back, hope he'll be in the TV series. And at least we now know that Monica is definitely alive.--Mc hammark 18:43, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Both Micah and Molly looked like they were in there twenties in this GN. -Vampirate68 21:57, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- We saw Molly in 2011, she didn't look any older than THIS... -- Altes 04:24, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- She looks at least 30 in this GN. Although I don't really like them dwelling on the whole near past thing, I kinda liked this one. Hopefully they kill off Monica, a shocking death is what the GN needs. --Lolwut 17:35, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- No, no, no! Monica is bad ass, she must return to the show! I'd rather see Abigail and/or Lee get killed... -- Altes 03:21, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
- My vote is for Lee. Monica is the best, and Abigail is really growing on me!If Lee dies tho, Abigail might go all emo and then I wouldn't like her anymore. maybe they'll kill Claude! I don't get what all the hype about him is for... --Skullman1392 05:01, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
- "We saw Molly in 2011, she didn't look any older than THIS" that was because it was based on Adair Tishler, and unlike the show where the future is used almost every time, they had to take what they could use. I highly doubt Adair Tishler would look like what she did in that episode in comparison to real life age of that time. I mean look at Noah/Micah he looked drastically different then when Tracy was searching information about Niki to when he showed up again when Tracy froze herself and Danko's men. And its because Noah the actor aged in real life. Heroes may be close to our time line but its slowing down a lot. I mean it's still 2007 there but in real life it's 2009. Plus the Molly we saw on screen was when Daphne and Matt were together in an alternate time line. --Dman dustin 14:46, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
- No, no, no! Monica is bad ass, she must return to the show! I'd rather see Abigail and/or Lee get killed... -- Altes 03:21, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
- She looks at least 30 in this GN. Although I don't really like them dwelling on the whole near past thing, I kinda liked this one. Hopefully they kill off Monica, a shocking death is what the GN needs. --Lolwut 17:35, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- We saw Molly in 2011, she didn't look any older than THIS... -- Altes 04:24, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- Both Micah and Molly looked like they were in there twenties in this GN. -Vampirate68 21:57, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
Not Mohinder's Grandmother?
It's been listed as Mohinder's grandmother in the Character Appearances but we were told that Molly was sent to live with Mohinder's mother, Mrs. Suresh. If Mohinder has taken up a "fatherly" role with Molly, then his own mother would be a "grandmother" to her. We also don't even know if Mohinder's grandmother is still alive. It would have been 25 years passing since she was last mentioned in 1982 and it's now 2007. So does anyone else think that Mrs. Suresh should be listed instead of Mohinder's grandmother? -- Cael 14:55, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Well, you see... uhhh... hmm... good point. If only BTE was still around, we could ask. Until then I believe that it IS Mohinder's grandmother, and there's someone in Chennai with the healer power to keep her alive so long. --Gibbeynator 14:58, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Personally, I agree with Cael's take on the matter ... but what do we do in cases like these where we have no further information ? Hopefully we don't end up refering to her as Mohinder's Relative ... --LeoChris 15:11, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- It's hard for me to make up my mind on this. The assignment tracker didn't say who she was with, and in the episode Mohinder only says that he sent her "somewhere safe". Then in a BTE Q&A with the writers, we get confirmation that she was sent to live with Mohinder's mother. Later, we are told by Adair Tishler, who plays Molly, that she was sent to live with Mohinder's grandparents, not mother. See this interview with Adair. Normally, we go with what the writers say, so my thought is now that this should be changed to Mohinder's mother. As Cael said, Mohinder's mother would be Molly's adopted grandmother. I may change my mind again, but that's what I'm thinking right now...--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- I originally put Grandma Suresh and though creating a new page would be the simplest option as I thought Mohinder's grandmother was dead. However, someone later reminded me she wasn't so I put her, I see the reasoning for saying Mohinder's Mother and think it was probably me misinterpreting what she was saying. --posted by Laughingdevilboy
- It's hard for me to make up my mind on this. The assignment tracker didn't say who she was with, and in the episode Mohinder only says that he sent her "somewhere safe". Then in a BTE Q&A with the writers, we get confirmation that she was sent to live with Mohinder's mother. Later, we are told by Adair Tishler, who plays Molly, that she was sent to live with Mohinder's grandparents, not mother. See this interview with Adair. Normally, we go with what the writers say, so my thought is now that this should be changed to Mohinder's mother. As Cael said, Mohinder's mother would be Molly's adopted grandmother. I may change my mind again, but that's what I'm thinking right now...--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:59, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Personally, I agree with Cael's take on the matter ... but what do we do in cases like these where we have no further information ? Hopefully we don't end up refering to her as Mohinder's Relative ... --LeoChris 15:11, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
Talk 16:12, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Adair was talking about a deleted scene. The BTE came later. Nothing says this is the same grandmother from Monsters. - Josh (talk/contribs) 16:15, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Do we need a consensus or summit or can we just move it to Mohinder's Mother?-- By Danko CH 16:17, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- General policy is to go with what the writers say. I don't think a consensus is needed.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- But think about it. If it was Mohinder's Grandmother then it would be Chandra's mother (hence the name Suresh); if Chandra was a doctor in his, we can assume, 20's in the year 1961, then in 2006 (when he died) he would be around the 60 - 70 years old mark. Now, maybe it's just me, but I don't think that his mother would still be alive then, and even less likely in 2008 (is that when this is set?). ANd just look at "Grandma Suresh", i know it's a graphic novel and does not have a great amount of detail, but she has practically no wrinkles, so she is either Mohinder's Mother, or ageing surprisingly well for (minimum) 80 years old. --Mc hammark 08:15, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- It's already been changed to Mohinder's mother.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:40, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- But think about it. If it was Mohinder's Grandmother then it would be Chandra's mother (hence the name Suresh); if Chandra was a doctor in his, we can assume, 20's in the year 1961, then in 2006 (when he died) he would be around the 60 - 70 years old mark. Now, maybe it's just me, but I don't think that his mother would still be alive then, and even less likely in 2008 (is that when this is set?). ANd just look at "Grandma Suresh", i know it's a graphic novel and does not have a great amount of detail, but she has practically no wrinkles, so she is either Mohinder's Mother, or ageing surprisingly well for (minimum) 80 years old. --Mc hammark 08:15, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- General policy is to go with what the writers say. I don't think a consensus is needed.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Do we need a consensus or summit or can we just move it to Mohinder's Mother?-- By Danko CH 16:17, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- Adair was talking about a deleted scene. The BTE came later. Nothing says this is the same grandmother from Monsters. - Josh (talk/contribs) 16:15, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
Easter Egg?
Am I the only one thinking there is a problem with the current wording of the easter egg ? If it's a behind the scenes image, it's not of Angela and Peter but of Cristine and Milo. That particular picture though, if I remember correctly, was a promo still released for the episode ... So should we just edit it to say it is an in-character picture ? What do you think ? --LeoChris 15:11, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
- It is an in-character image of them. I just changed the wording. Thanks for the heads-up.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:23, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
Dennis Calero
This guy does not impress me at all. Molly looked NOTHING like Adair Tishler, Micah was taller than grown women, and in the second-last panel it looks like Abigail has Maya's power. I wish Jason Badower had done ALL the Rebellion GNs, becuase Calero just isn't up to par (I feel the same exact way about the second installment, also done by him). --Skullman1392 03:16, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
- While badower's is easier to follow, and feels less rushed, his "photo-realistic" (re: tracing) style bugs me and is stiff. It isnt particularly him, all artists who use the technique end up looking like that, and outside of having a show source like heroes, tracing should never happen. (im looking at you Greg Land and David Mack.) But yeah, this and the other Calero GN's are absolutely terrrible. --Action Figure 06:19, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
- I thought Micah was Mohinder for about half of the story, since Molly was talking about Mohinder just before he showed up and, well, because he looked more like Mohinder. And Abigail's empty eye sockets genuinely freaked me out. Yeah, bad art. Revengeance 01:03, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
Next GN
When's the next one come out???--WarGrowlmon18 16:18, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
- Supposedly mid-August, so next Tuesday, I think.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:00, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
- I remember reading August 18, so MiamiVolts would be right. --Skullman1392 21:25, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
- Oliver Grigsby posted on his twitter that it's August 17th (next monday). The part will be written by Jim Martin drawn by Jason Badower. Can't wait. --mc_hammark 07:15, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
- I remember reading August 18, so MiamiVolts would be right. --Skullman1392 21:25, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
What next?
- After the seventh (and apparently final) part of Rebellion is released, does anyone know when the next one will be released? And will they be back to the one-weekly schedule when the season starts?TracyStraussFan 17:34, 17 August 2009 (EDT)
- I heard that right after pt 7 (which I can't wait for btw) they go back on a weekly scheduale to lead into season 4. I assume that means it wil stay that way during season four as well. --Skullman1392 00:06, 18 August 2009 (EDT)