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| |[[Sylar]] will eventually hear about [[Adam]] and his power and give up trying to kill [[Claire]] and kill [[Adam]] while he is in his grave and take his power. || [[Sylar]] has been trying since [[Volume One]] to receive [[rapid cell regeneration]] || |
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{{plus}} [[Sylar]] could use [[Ted]]'s power to get [[Adam]] out of his grave and kill him.<br> |
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:{{minus}} Only Hiro knows where Adam Monroe is buried (unless he told [[Ando]] as well).<br> |
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{{plus}} Sylar could use [[Molly]] to locate Adam.<br> |
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{{minus}} Sylar has never met Adam before, and the rest of the world presumes that he is gone forever. |
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| |[[Adam Monroe]] is the ancestor of [[Claire]]. || None || |
| |[[Adam Monroe]] is the ancestor of [[Claire Bennet]]. || None || {{plus}} They both have the power of [[rapid cell regeneration]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] both have the same power, as well as [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]]. [[Maya]] and [[Alejandro]] have powers that are connected, so family relations are likely to have an effect on the power.<br /> |
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{{plus}} They both have the power of [[rapid cell regeneration]]. |
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:{{note}} [[Micah]] and Claire both have totally different powers to both their parents. However, Matt and Maury have the same power, thus indicating that such a thing is possible.<br /> |
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{{plus}} They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.<br /> |
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:{{note}} [[Micah]] and [[Claire]] both have totally different powers to both their parents. |
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:{{minus}}There are a lot of blond characters in ''Heroes''. They aren't all related to Adam.<br/> |
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{{plus}} They both have blonde hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.<br> |
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:{{note}} They could ALL be his descendants, he has lived long enough.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}There's a lot of blond characters in Heroes. They aren't all related with Adam. |
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{{plus}} Adam's second wife was an Italian woman who bore him two sons. These sons might be ancestors of the Petrelli's and, through Nathan, an ancestor of Claire.<br /> |
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{{plus}}In an interview it was hinted that Kensei was the ancestor of [[Hiro]]. If that is true, then there is a large chance that so is [[Kaito]]. [[Angela]] admitted to sleeping with Kaito, meaning that [[Nathan]] might be Kaito's son. Since Claire is Nathan's biological daughter, if all this is true, then she is related to Kensei. |
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:{{plus}} Adam's sons were Italian, and Petrelli is of definite Italian origin.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} If Nathan was Kaito's son, he would have Japanese features. |
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{{plus}} As Kensei, Adam used [[the symbol]] as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. || None || {{plus}} His body is charred in ''[[Out of Time]]'', yet he is seen in the future.<br /> |
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| [[Yaeko]] eventually fell in love with [[Adam]] and the two married like in the Kensei legends. |
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:{{minus}} Given Adam/Kensei's penchant for using stand-ins, the corpse could easily be some unlucky disciple of White Beard.<br /> |
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|| The Kensei legends. |
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:{{minus}} He could have also simply regenerated.<br /> |
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|| {{plus}} The legends of [[Takezo Kensei]] say that eventually he married the [[swordsmith]]'s daughter. <br> |
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{{plus}} He was able to witness the kiss between [[Hiro]] and [[Yaeko]], even through he should be still in Whitebeard's camp given the amount time that passed.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Hiro may have moved forward in time a couple minutes while he teleported.<br /> |
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{{note}} As well, the part of the legends where Kensei receives half of Japan also does not occur while Hiro is in the past but it is stated that [[White Beard]] offered half of Japan to Adam. <br> |
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:{{minus}} Also, Hiro may not have teleported far away, considering he and Kensei would regroup after the attack. Not only that, Hiro kissed Yaeko a while after he used his power.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It's highly unlikely that Yaeko would fall in love with the man who attempted to betray Japan, and kill her hero. <br> |
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{{minus}} If [[rapid cell regeneration]] also allowed users to clone themselves, this would make [[Julien]]'s [[cloning|ability]] completely obsolete.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Telepathy makes persuasion and puppet master obsolete, plant manipulation makes plant growth obsolete, so this is no reason why it wouldn't be possible.<br /> |
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{{note}} Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission.<br /> |
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| Linderman and [[Adam Monroe]] had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. || None || {{plus}} Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam was already locked up when the photo was taken. [[Victoria Pratt]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] looked significantly younger when Adam was locked up 30 years ago ("[[Episode:Truth and Consequences|Truth and Consequences]]") than in the photo.<br> |
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{{minus}} [[Linderman]] was all for blowing up New York City.<br /> |
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:{{note}} There's a big difference between being willing to kill .07% of the human population, and 93% of the population.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up.<br /> |
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{{note}} Linderman could have helped lock him up after their disagreement.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride has an ability similar to [[Molly]]'s. || Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (''[[The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei]]'') || {{plus}} It is impossible for anyone else to know where [[Hiro]] took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to [[clairvoyance|find people]].<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] has more than one power. || None || {{plus}} Adam/[[Kensei]] already has [[rapid cell regeneration]]. (''[[Out of Time]]).<br> |
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:{{minus}} Adam could be carrying a GPS locater.<br /> |
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{{plus}} It can explain why Adam thought he was some kind of god after he met many [[evolved humans]]. |
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::{{plus}} Adam did not know he was going to be buried alive by Hiro. Adam does not seem to have a reason to carry around a GPS device.<br /> |
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: {{minus}} He could think of himself as a god, due to his possible immortality/invincibility. |
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:{{minus}} Having been imprisoned by the Company back in 1977, it is possible Adam is implanted with an older model tracking device (the radio isotope satellite and Molly Walker being more recent systems used by the Company to track their captured subjects).<br /> |
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{{minus}}The show's creators have stated that no character has more than one power. |
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{{minus}} His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Elle]]. || None || {{note}} The theory goes that Adam and Elle had a secret alliance and relationship.<br /> |
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| Adam Monroe's primary motivation is still his anger toward [[Hiro Nakamura]] for stealing [[Yaeko]]'s love from him. || He swore to Hiro Nakamura that he would, for as long as he drew breath, lay waste to everything he cared about. (''[[Episode:Out of Time|Out of Time]]'') || {{plus}}''[[Heroes]]'' is a simple series; it uses and expands on popular and common comic book concepts and gimmicks to create entertaining and impactful storylines. The notion of a villain who, for all his power and vision, is mostly motivated by a petty need for vengeance over a failed romance is exactly the type of familiar simplicity it would bring into such an otherwise dark and complicated story. |
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{{plus}} Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
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{{minus}}Monroe's intentions extend far beyond Hiro. [[Bob]] has already explained that he envisions a world in which humanity has been "punished" with holocausts and plagues, and [[evolved humans]] have come into power over the rest of mankind. |
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:{{minus}} He says he "gave in" implying that he raped her more so than consensually slept with her. It is extremely unlikely that Elle would marry someone who raped her.<br /> |
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: {{plus}}Monroe may simply be intent on living up to his promise to stand against everything Hiro cherishes, interpreting that far more broadly than just killing his close friends and loved ones. When Monroe knew Hiro in [[Timeline:Pre-eclipse#1671|1671]], Hiro made it very clear how important the ideal of heroism, the standard of compassion, and the use of power for causes of goodness were to him. Monroe may have become a true personification of evil, hoping to arbitrarily impose the opposites of those things onto the world as a grandiose means of achieving his revenge, even attempting to [[Group of twelve|bring fellow evolved humans together]] and [[The Company/Season One|manipulate them into abusing their power]]. |
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::{{plus}} Adam never implied that he raped Elle. "Gave in" more likely meant that he accepted Elle's promiscuous behavior and consensually had sex with her.<br /> |
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:: {{plus}}Hiro also constantly made it clear how important the legend of [[Takezo Kensei]] was, both to the world as a part of its history and to himself personally. Because he believed Monroe was Takezo Kensei, it became very important to Hiro for Monroe himself to become a hero. Therefore, Monroe may consider it a part of his revenge against Hiro to deliberately live the life of a villain instead, betraying his own supposed destiny. |
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:::{{note}} Indeed. That wording is far more likely to indicate that Elle took the more active role in any sexual encounters. It ''could'' indicate giving into urges, but while he has shown himself to be a relatively unscrupulous bastard, Adam has never been shown to have a condition that would result in any sort of compulsion to rape.<br /> |
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{{plus}}Adam Monroe has said to [[Peter Petrelli]] that the two of them "are going to change history." (''[[Episode:Out of Time|Out of Time]]'') This may very well entail going back in time with the intent to win back Yaeko's love, and therefore be his main intention.<br> |
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::{{plus}} Elle can shoot [[Electric manipulation|electricity]] from her hands. It is unlikely that she could be raped.<br /> |
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{{plus}}Adam lets the Nakamura family in [[The Company]] and then chooses to be the one who kills [[Kaito]]. |
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::{{minus}} Elle was only 16 then, as well as being much weaker physically and mentally than Adam. He could of easily manipulated and overpowered her when she was being promiscuous. So might also have not had developed [[Electric manipulation|her power]] as much. Even if she did, it would be moot since Adam can negate by [[regeneration|regenerating]]. <br /> |
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:::{{note}} Regenerating damage does not mean that being electrocuted would not temporarily incapacitate him. While Peter's shot didn't hinder him, it must have been relatively weak to only burn his hand, while Elle has been indicated (by [[Noah Bennet]], who in theory could have been lying to manipulate her) to have been approaching the power necessary to power a city block when she was very young. That would certainly be enough power to short out Adam's nervous system for at least long enough for her to summon help; even if it did not incapacitate him, it would certainly draw attention. This doesn't discount the possibility of his manipulating her, but as above, his claim that he "gave in" implies that she was the more active party. Unless, of course, he was lying.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} In [[Eris Quod Sum]], it is shown that Claire's young (relative to Adam's) [[rapid cell regeneration]] completely negates the effects of Elle's [[Lightning|electricity]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle is the only person besides [[Peter]] that Adam has had major contact with in the past 30 years.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} This is unlikely. Elle is only in her early twenties and was first involved with [[The Company]] at the age of seven. Before then, there would be plenty of time for others to come and meet Adam.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Four Months Ago...]]'', [[the Haitian]] chased Peter while Elle chased Adam. Peter was easily caught, and he was far more powerful than Adam. It is possible that Elle purposely let Adam escape.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Or she was merely less experienced than the Haitian, or Adam was trickier than Peter was.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle had very little chance to catch Adam in the first place. He had a head start and could negate [[Lightning|her power]] with [[Regeneration|his power]]. Even if she did catch him, she would have quite a tough time containing him unless she had tape or rope to hold him.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Adam's power is regeneration, not invulnerability. Regeneration does not negate the immediate effects of attacks. High levels of electricity would still result in burns, muscle contractions and, depending on conditions, severe nervous system damage. While he would heal from this, a single strong strike could take him off of his feet, and even if he could not be incapacitated, a taser-strength jolt whenever he tried to stand up would take him off his feet immediately due to the resulting spastic muscle contractions if nothing else. However, as mentioned above, she is relatively inexperienced in the field as compared to the Haitian, while Adam has a few hundred years of experience on Peter.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} [[Rapid cell regeneration]] trumps induced [[Electric manipulation|electricity]], as per Elle's confrontation with Claire in [[Eris Quod Sum]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle would be bitter towards [[Bob|her father]] for his malicious experiments, and likely to agree with Adam's opposition to [[the Company]] to spite Bob. (''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', ''[[Powerless]]'')<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle did not learn about her father's experiments until after Adam escaped. There would not be enough time for them to form any sort of significant relationship.<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's [[Aoyama Cemetery|new prison]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} ''[[Powerless]]'' left Elle in very close proximity to Molly, easily rectifying this problem.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Elle's First Assignment]] was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} If she was so closely watched that [[Bob]] knew about her "affair," then why would he continue to let her give Adam his medicine in the Company's prison? If she wasn't closely watched enough for Bob to be aware of such a thing, then a secret relationship is possible.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} We have only seen Elle give Peter medication; while this does not mean she didn't give Adam any, she probably stopped/was stopped after he "gave in" if she even gave him any to begin with.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam seems to dislike Elle.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam could have manipulated Elle's weak mental state to get her to marry him. Marriage isn't always about love.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam said his eleventh bride will find him, meaning she cared about him.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride doesn't really exist. || None || {{plus}} The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] is the original hero and is the ancestor of all the heroes in the show. || None. || {{plus}}He is likely more than 400 years old. In that time he may have been with hundreds of women, many of whom would have had babies. We know that the powers are hereditary (in many cases), so it would be quite possible that he fathered many children throughout his lifetime. As those children grew up and reproduced, they would pass along his genes to their kids as well. |
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:{{minus}} Foreshadowing about what, if not a new bride?<br /> |
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: {{plus}}We know that he had traveled a lot even before meeting Hiro, he could easily had sexual relations with many women from around the world. |
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{{plus}} The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in ''Heroes''.<br /> |
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:{{plus}}This fits his "pre-Hiro" personality perfectly. |
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{{plus}} The eleventh bride could have been a figment of a mentally ill man suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain.<br /> |
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: {{plus}}His facial features (blond hair, blue eyes and even white skin) are recessive, meaning that wouldn't show up in a child from a mother with dark hair, eyes and skin. |
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{{plus}}His name "Adam" is perfectly fitting for a character who is the original of a species.<br> |
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{{plus}}Claire and Niki have blonde hair like him. Claire has his power too.<br> |
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{{note}} All characters have connections.<br> |
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{{plus}}The symbol for Kensei is embedded into the DNA of all known Heroes. |
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| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride is [[Jessica]] or another of [[Niki]]'s alter egos. || None || {{plus}} She has the strength to free him from his coffin.<br /> |
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: {{minus}}Given Adam/Kensei's penchant for using stand-ins, the corpse could easily be some unlucky disciple of White Beard |
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: {{minus}}He could have also simply regenerated. |
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{{plus}}He was able to witness the kiss between [[Hiro]] and [[Yaeko]], even through he should be still in Whitebeard's camp given the amount time that passed. |
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: {{minus}}Hiro may have moved forward in time a couple minutes while he teleported. |
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: {{minus}} Also, Hiro may not have teleported far away, considering he and Kensei would regroup after the attack. Not only that, Hiro kissed Yaeko a while after he used his power. |
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{{note}}Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduction asexually through transverse fission. |
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| U.S. President [[Wikipedia:James Monroe|James Monroe]] was a descendant of [[Adam]]. || None || {{plus}} They share the last name.<br /> |
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| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. || None || {{plus}} Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death.<br> |
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{{plus}} Adam was born over a century before President Monroe.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.<br> |
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{{minus}} Monroe isn't exactly an uncommon name.<br /> |
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{{minus}}[[Linderman]] was all for blowing up New York City. |
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: {{note}} There's a big difference between being willing to kill .07% of the human population, and happily wiping out 93% of the human population. |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Linda Tavara]]. || None || {{plus}} Adam says that his newest wife will find him. This seems to imply that this person either has a power, or is a skilled tracker. Linda has a power, and was a private investigator.<br /> |
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| [[Peter]] can kill [[Adam]] by using [[phasing]]. || None. || {{plus}} [[Linderman]] was killed when [[D.L.]] phased his hand into his head and removed his brain. <br> |
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{{minus}} Adam already had a wife during the seventies, [[Trina (Adam's wife)|Trina]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Peter can, theoretically, remove Adam's entire brain from his body, which could prevent regeneration. |
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:{{plus}} After his escape, there were four months in which Adam's activities were unknown. He could have met Linda then.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Although this theory may prove to be true, Linderman's power is not the same as Adam's power. [[Healing]] requires conscious effort while [[rapid cell regeneration]] works automatically. |
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:{{plus}} Adam has established himself as a pretty [[moral ambiguity|amoral]] person. It wouldn't exactly be out of character if he cheated on [[Trina (Adam's wife)|Trina]].<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Adam stated he regretted not being able to say goodbye to her, he had genuine feelings for her as far as what is known of their relationship.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Linda is dead.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} There is a gap of 19 years between his marriage before Trina and Trina. He could have been involved with her between those times as Linda died in 1972, while Adam married Trina in 1977.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Adam said his "eleventh bride". Trina was number ten, Adam would have married his eleventh bride after Trina, Linda Tavara was killed before he even married Trina.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It is possible for two human beings to be engaged before one of them dies.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Linda was already dead when Adam and Trina were married.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Angela Petrelli]]. || None || {{plus}} Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela was subject to attack by Maury Parkman at Adam's orders.<br /> |
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{{Minus}} Hearing Adam's voice outside his grave was probably just a effect added for the viewer, although theoretically in years to come the ground may move naturally (or through Adam's constant beating on the coffin) and give Adam a chance to be heard. <br> |
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:{{minus}} Angela says this is because Adam is "the key to unlocking this whole mystery."<br /> |
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{{plus}} Even if he were buried deep underground, Adam's healing factor would provide him the stamina and time necessary to physically dig himself out. <br> {{plus}} It is impossible to say that the producers would be able to forever resist the urge to bring back such a good character for a subsequent storyline, especially since he is still alive. <br> {{minus}} In [http://www.tvguide.com/news/heroes-generations-finale/071204-01 an interview], [[Tim Kring]] says the writers have "given the audience no reason to believe that Adam can figure a way to get out of there."<br>{{plus}}The coffin will rot long before Adam does.<br>{{plus}} In [http://www.buddytv.com/articles/heroes/exclusive-interview-heroes-sta-13999.aspx an interview] with [[David Anders]], he suggested that his character will be returning in future episodes. |
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{{plus}} Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with [[Kaito]], therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He might be reappearing in flashbacks.<br> |
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{{plus}} If this is true, and Arthur found out about this, that would explain him killing Adam, rather than using his blood to cure himself.<br /> |
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::{{note}} In the episode commentary to ''[[Truth and Consequences]]'', David Anders mentions recently filming a nightmare sequence with [[Ali Larter]] ([[Niki]]). |
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:{{minus}} It is possible that Arthur killed Adam simply because he wanted Adam's ability for himself.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} However, as Adam said, he could, "be of use" to Arthur, and Arthur is no stranger to using people when it would help him. He could have easily used Adam, then taken his power once he was no longer of any use, meanwhile using Adam's blood to keep himself alive and well.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Even though his cells rapidly regenerate, it is possible that he is not actually immortal and will die from a lack of nourishment after an extended period of time. |
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{{minus}} Adam seemed to have a positive opinion of his eleventh bride, whereas Angela was the first he implicated as the possible thief of the formula.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} As noted above, Angela also seems to implicate Adam, or at the least refer to him as merely useful, resulting in him being released. It could just be a good cover so they are not seen as working together.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Tracy Strauss]]. || None || {{plus}} Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and [[Knox]]) in [[Angela's dream]] of the dark future ([[The Butterfly Effect]]).<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] knew about his powers before [[Hiro]] witnessed it. || According to the Kensei Legends, [[Kensei]] was born in 1584, and looked young in 1671 Japan, which would make him 87 years old, and being able to regenerate himself to a younger age. || {{minus}} It seemed as if Adam genuinely didn't understand what was happening. There was no motive for deceiving [[Hiro]]. (''[[Lizards]]'')<br> {{minus}} The legend of Kensei was not very accurate to the actual events; there's no reason to assume it wasn't exaggerated over the years by [[Yaeko]]. |
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{{minus}} In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli ([[I Am Become Death]]).<br/> |
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:{{plus}} Thanks to Future Peter's interference, that future may no longer exist.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam didn't know that.<br /> |
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| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. || None || {{plus}} As of ''[[Dying of the Light]]'' Adam is now dead and his wife has not yet been revealed.<br/> |
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| [[Adam]] is not able to age because of he used too much of his regeneration too quickly. || In [[Cautionary Tales]], Angela mentions that Adam's cells have been healing too much, putting his cells in equilibrium from dying and regenerating constantly. || {{plus}} He 'died' in an explosion from gunpowder, but survived it because of his powers. |
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: {{note}} Healing a simple wound would be insignificant compared to having to heal his entire body; the bones, the flesh, the skin, even the organs.<br>{{note}}If this theory is true, then perhaps the immense damage [[Claire]] suffered from [[Ted Sprague]] has given her similar immortality. |
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| The manifestation of [[Adam]]'s ability was related to the [[1671]] [[eclipse]]. || The later [[eclipse]] seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. || {{note}} Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when [[Hiro]] was there.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The eclipses that happen every 370 years aren't always the eclipses that activate powers. [[Peter]] mentions a dream he had in [[Villains]] about [[Nathan]] and [[Heidi]] in their accident at the same time it was occurring, which was 18 months before the total eclipse that was assumed to activate most of the other main characters' powers.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] died after [[Arthur]] absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. || None || {{plus}} [[Claire]] was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed.<br /> |
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{{note}} Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There is no possible way that bacteria could have decomposed his body and turned him to dust that quickly. Especially in a sterile hospital room.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} And there's no way viruses or infections (which are from bacteria) could have killed him that quickly and turned him to dust that quickly either.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} If it wasn't from is ability being taken away and him aging quickly, then the most plausible explanation would be that Arthur used an unknown power to kill him after taking Adam's ability.<br /> |
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{{note}} The human body is full of important non pathogenic bacteria, and without them humans would lack important nutrients, such as vitamin B complex.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Viruses and infections would not lay dormant. His body may have constantly had to fix damage due to viruses or bacteria (unlikely), but they would not be dormant.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The most likely reason that Adam aged to death after his power was stolen was that the writers wanted it to be absolutely and instantly clear that Arthur had REMOVED his power, not just copied it.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] survived until [[2007]] because the [[eclipse]]s that give and take away [[powers]] only happen every 370 years. || Total solar eclipses are rare [[events]]. Although they occur somewhere on Earth every 18 months on average, it has been estimated that they recur at any given place only once every 370 years, on average. The total eclipse only lasts for a few minutes at that location, as the Moon's umbra moves eastward at over 1700 km/h. Totality can never last more than 7 min 31 s, and is usually much shorter: during each millennium there are typically fewer than 10 total solar eclipses exceeding 7 minutes. The last time this happened was June 30, [[1973]] (7 min 3 sec). || {{plus}} 1603 (Total [[eclipse]]) + 68 years = [[1671]] (Annular, gives and takes away powers) [[1973]] (Total eclipse) + 34 years = [[2007]] (Hybrid eclipse, gives and takes away)<br /> |
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{{plus}} But if [[Hiro Nakamura]] was never sent to [[1671]], then Adam would've still became evil. He could trick Hiro into [[teleporting]] him to [[2011]], where he would release the [[Shanti virus]] and take over the world. So that Adam could escape the next eclipse in 2041, when he could just use a cryogenic tube or have someone with [[freezing]] put him in that state.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] was written out of the show because the writers resent his character. || Adam's death scene, the most recent Behind the Eclipse. || {{plus}} Adam was a popular character, yet the writers killed his character off early in Season 3, in a humiliating way. Adam could well have remained sealed to be dug up in future seasons - instead, he was killed off quickly.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Older BTE interviews stated that they had to kill Adam to establish Arthur Petrelli as villain.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The writers had other ways of building up Arthur Petrelli - the way they did it was heavy-handed and more or less shoved Arthur down the viewer's throats.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Maybe that's what the writers wanted.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The most recent Behind the Eclipse scorned the possibility of Adam returning in Volume 4, remarking about Adam's thorough death scene.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Bringing him back could bring back some lost viewers.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} As the writers said, bringing him back at this point is difficult. Volume 3 was written had not lost any viewers yet when Adam's death was written.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam's role in the story has been marginalized since his death, despite his important role prior to Season 3.<br /> |
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:{{note}} By the same logic, the writers must resent Monica and West as well, since they were simply not mentioned at all.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Some fans certainly hate West, and some fans and writers regard Monica as a milquetoast character.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The aforementioned Behind the Eclipse alluded to 'dirty laundry' and fights behind the scenes. Perhaps a grudge against David Anders is among this dirty laundry.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The dirty laundry in question is probably about Volume 4, which Adam's not a part of.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} The dirty laundry mentioned nothing about specifics - whether it was about Volume 4, future volumes, Adam, or anything like that.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} "''Gives us a peek inside the Writers Room. How far along into Volume 4 are you? Have there been any "Charlie Arguments" of "150 Hour Tests" of late?'' |
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:::''As of answering this question, we're all done with Volume 4. ''Lots of arguments along the way.'' But we're not one for airing out our dirty laundry, so we're gonna keep our fights to a minimum.''" Along the way clearly refers to Volume 4.<br /> |
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::::{{plus}} There could be arguments along the way of Volume 4 that aren't related to Volume 4.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} There is little reason to believe they were referring to a decision that had already been made, or that the writers have a grudge against David Anders.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It is unlikely the writers grew to resent Adam in between the decisions to write him back in in episode 4 and to write him out in episode 6.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He may have been written back in so he could be written out in a more humiliating way.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} It was most likely that he was brought back to the show so as to make his death absolutely final. Leaving him in the grave would have only prompted people to continuously theorize about his return.<br /> |
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| Adam didn't have a sweetspot. His entire brain was vulnerable. || None || {{plus}} [[Sylar]] and [[Claire]] can only be killed if shot in the back of their head.<br /> |
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{{plus}} When [[Angela]] sent [[Matt]] and [[Nathan]] to stop Adam from releasing the [[Shanti virus]], she didn't say anything about the sweetspot, just to shoot him in the head.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] was behind Coyote Sands. || None || {{plus}} Adam said he wanted to a group of his own. This is a good way to find them.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam learnt about other heroes from [[Hiro]]. So a century after his cloning foe [[Evan]] mocked him, he found out how to gather his people.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He was just a guard at there.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] is [[Samuel]]'s father. || None || {{plus}} Adam and [[Theresa]] were married around the time Samuel was born.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Adam didn't mention any children with Theresa.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Mrs. Sullivan]] may not have survived Coyote Sands destruction to be killed by Adam later.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} [[Joseph]] specifically states that his mother told him what happened at Coyote Sands, and how Samuel needed to be controlled.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Mrs. Sullivan could have cheated on Mr. Sullivan, making him Samuel's stepfather.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It's not even known who Samuel's father is, and if he is not Joseph's father.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Mrs. Sullivan has displayed no sign of an ability except Samuel's. Could be he and possibly Joseph got abilities from Adam.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Mrs. Sullivan was at Coyote Sands, and she knew that Samuel's power can be magnified. Unless she only was there because of Joseph and somebody else told her about Samuel's distinction, she had an ability.<br /> |
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{{plus}} They're both possible causes of dark futures.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Alice Shaw]]. || None || {{plus}} Adam survived Coyote Sands destruction due to his ability. He may look for any survivors and find a scared cute girl whom he might become engaged to in the future.<br /> |
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{{minus}} And yet before their fight, [[Alice]] said nothing about it to [[Angela]].<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is never identified, and never played an important role. || None || {{plus}} Adam may have been lonely, and referring to that once he does get out of the coffin, he would go search for a new woman to marry, whether out of love, lust, or loneliness.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If his "newest bride" were to play an important role, she would have been revealed before Adam died.<br /> |
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:{{note}} The writers may have originally planned to keep Adam alive, and later to find his "newest bride". However, this is unlikely.<br /> |
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| Adam is the father of [[Ted Sprague]]. || None || {{plus}} He wasn't imprisoned until 1977.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Mindy]] is Ted's mother and she carried a file about [[Adam]].<br /> |
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{{minus}} Could be Mindy helped [[Kaito]] lock up Adam.<br /> |
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{{plus}} They resembled each other.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Having light hair does not make them related.<br /> |
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::{{note}} They do not both have blonde hair.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There is no mention of Ted's father.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela dreamt of alarms blaring, and a woman in a white coat running down a hall. This could be the event which happened in 1977, the woman being [[Victoria Pratt]]. A date, [[January 3, 1973]], is also dreamt, which is approximately nine months before Ted Sprague's birth.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] is the ancestor of [[Hal Sanders|Hal]], [[Niki]] and eventually [[Micah Sanders]]. |
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| Adam Monroe is the ancestor of Claire Bennet. | None | + They both have the power of rapid cell regeneration.
+ They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.
+ Adam's second wife was an Italian woman who bore him two sons. These sons might be ancestors of the Petrelli's and, through Nathan, an ancestor of Claire.
+ As Kensei, Adam used the symbol as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice. |
| Adam Monroe can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. | None | + His body is charred in Out of Time, yet he is seen in the future.
+ He was able to witness the kiss between Hiro and Yaeko, even through he should be still in Whitebeard's camp given the amount time that passed.
- If rapid cell regeneration also allowed users to clone themselves, this would make Julien's ability completely obsolete.
• Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission. |
| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. | None | + Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death. + Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.
- Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up. |
| Adam's eleventh bride has an ability similar to Molly's. | Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei) | + It is impossible for anyone else to know where Hiro took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to find people.
- His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Elle. | None | • The theory goes that Adam and Elle had a secret alliance and relationship. + Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (Four Months Ago...)
+ Elle is the only person besides Peter that Adam has had major contact with in the past 30 years.
+ In Four Months Ago..., the Haitian chased Peter while Elle chased Adam. Peter was easily caught, and he was far more powerful than Adam. It is possible that Elle purposely let Adam escape.
+ Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (Four Months Ago...)
- There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's new prison.
- Elle's First Assignment was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.
- Adam seems to dislike Elle.
- Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born. |
| Adam's eleventh bride doesn't really exist. | None | + The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.
+ The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in Heroes. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Jessica or another of Niki's alter egos. | None | + She has the strength to free him from his coffin. |
| U.S. President James Monroe was a descendant of Adam. | None | + They share the last name. + Adam was born over a century before President Monroe. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Linda Tavara. | None | + Adam says that his newest wife will find him. This seems to imply that this person either has a power, or is a skilled tracker. Linda has a power, and was a private investigator. - Adam already had a wife during the seventies, Trina.
- Linda is dead.
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| Adam's eleventh bride is Angela Petrelli. | None | + Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.
+ Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with Kaito, therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well.
- Adam seemed to have a positive opinion of his eleventh bride, whereas Angela was the first he implicated as the possible thief of the formula.
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| Adam's eleventh bride is Tracy Strauss. | None | + Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and Knox) in Angela's dream of the dark future (The Butterfly Effect). - In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli (I Am Become Death).
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| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. | None | + As of Dying of the Light Adam is now dead and his wife has not yet been revealed. |
| The manifestation of Adam's ability was related to the 1671 eclipse. | The later eclipse seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. | • Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when Hiro was there. - The eclipses that happen every 370 years aren't always the eclipses that activate powers. Peter mentions a dream he had in Villains about Nathan and Heidi in their accident at the same time it was occurring, which was 18 months before the total eclipse that was assumed to activate most of the other main characters' powers. |
| Adam died after Arthur absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. | None | + Claire was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed. • Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.
• The human body is full of important non pathogenic bacteria, and without them humans would lack important nutrients, such as vitamin B complex. |
| Adam Monroe survived until 2007 because the eclipses that give and take away powers only happen every 370 years. | Total solar eclipses are rare events. Although they occur somewhere on Earth every 18 months on average, it has been estimated that they recur at any given place only once every 370 years, on average. The total eclipse only lasts for a few minutes at that location, as the Moon's umbra moves eastward at over 1700 km/h. Totality can never last more than 7 min 31 s, and is usually much shorter: during each millennium there are typically fewer than 10 total solar eclipses exceeding 7 minutes. The last time this happened was June 30, 1973 (7 min 3 sec). | + 1603 (Total eclipse) + 68 years = 1671 (Annular, gives and takes away powers) 1973 (Total eclipse) + 34 years = 2007 (Hybrid eclipse, gives and takes away) + But if Hiro Nakamura was never sent to 1671, then Adam would've still became evil. He could trick Hiro into teleporting him to 2011, where he would release the Shanti virus and take over the world. So that Adam could escape the next eclipse in 2041, when he could just use a cryogenic tube or have someone with freezing put him in that state. |
| Adam Monroe was written out of the show because the writers resent his character. | Adam's death scene, the most recent Behind the Eclipse. | + Adam was a popular character, yet the writers killed his character off early in Season 3, in a humiliating way. Adam could well have remained sealed to be dug up in future seasons - instead, he was killed off quickly. - Older BTE interviews stated that they had to kill Adam to establish Arthur Petrelli as villain.
+ The most recent Behind the Eclipse scorned the possibility of Adam returning in Volume 4, remarking about Adam's thorough death scene.
+ Adam's role in the story has been marginalized since his death, despite his important role prior to Season 3.
+ The aforementioned Behind the Eclipse alluded to 'dirty laundry' and fights behind the scenes. Perhaps a grudge against David Anders is among this dirty laundry.
- It is unlikely the writers grew to resent Adam in between the decisions to write him back in in episode 4 and to write him out in episode 6.
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| Adam didn't have a sweetspot. His entire brain was vulnerable. | None | + Sylar and Claire can only be killed if shot in the back of their head. + When Angela sent Matt and Nathan to stop Adam from releasing the Shanti virus, she didn't say anything about the sweetspot, just to shoot him in the head. |
| Adam was behind Coyote Sands. | None | + Adam said he wanted to a group of his own. This is a good way to find them. + Adam learnt about other heroes from Hiro. So a century after his cloning foe Evan mocked him, he found out how to gather his people. |
| Adam is Samuel's father. | None | + Adam and Theresa were married around the time Samuel was born.
+ Mrs. Sullivan could have cheated on Mr. Sullivan, making him Samuel's stepfather.
+ Mrs. Sullivan has displayed no sign of an ability except Samuel's. Could be he and possibly Joseph got abilities from Adam.
+ They're both possible causes of dark futures. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Alice Shaw. | None | + Adam survived Coyote Sands destruction due to his ability. He may look for any survivors and find a scared cute girl whom he might become engaged to in the future. - And yet before their fight, Alice said nothing about it to Angela. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is never identified, and never played an important role. | None | + Adam may have been lonely, and referring to that once he does get out of the coffin, he would go search for a new woman to marry, whether out of love, lust, or loneliness. + If his "newest bride" were to play an important role, she would have been revealed before Adam died.
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| Adam is the father of Ted Sprague. | None | + He wasn't imprisoned until 1977. + Mindy is Ted's mother and she carried a file about Adam.
+ There is no mention of Ted's father. |
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