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| |[[Adam Monroe]] is the ancestor of [[Claire Bennet]]. || None |
| |[[Adam Monroe]] is the ancestor of [[Claire Bennet]]. || None || {{plus}} They both have the power of [[rapid cell regeneration]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] both have the same power, as well as [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]]. [[Maya]] and [[Alejandro]] have powers that are connected, so family relations are likely to have an effect on the power.<br /> |
:{{plus}} [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] both have the same power, as well as [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]]. [[Maya]] and [[Alejandro]] have powers that are connected, so family relations are likely to have an effect on the power.<br /> |
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:{{note}} [[Micah]] and |
:{{note}} [[Micah]] and Claire both have totally different powers to both their parents. However, Matt and Maury have the same power, thus indicating that such a thing is possible.<br /> |
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{{plus}} They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.<br /> |
{{plus}} They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}There are a lot of blond characters in ''Heroes''. They aren't all related to Adam.<br/> |
:{{minus}}There are a lot of blond characters in ''Heroes''. They aren't all related to Adam.<br/> |
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{{plus}} As Kensei, Adam used [[the symbol]] as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice.<br /> |
{{plus}} As Kensei, Adam used [[the symbol]] as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. || None |
| [[Adam Monroe]] can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. || None || {{plus}} His body is charred in ''[[Out of Time]]'', yet he is seen in the future.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Given Adam/Kensei's penchant for using stand-ins, the corpse could easily be some unlucky disciple of White Beard.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Given Adam/Kensei's penchant for using stand-ins, the corpse could easily be some unlucky disciple of White Beard.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He could have also simply regenerated.<br /> |
:{{minus}} He could have also simply regenerated.<br /> |
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{{note}} Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission.<br /> |
{{note}} Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission.<br /> |
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| Linderman and [[Adam Monroe]] had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. || None |
| Linderman and [[Adam Monroe]] had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. || None || {{plus}} Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.<br /> |
{{plus}} Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Linderman]] was all for blowing up New York City.<br /> |
{{minus}} [[Linderman]] was all for blowing up New York City.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up.<br /> |
{{minus}} Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up.<br /> |
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{{note}} Linderman could have helped lock him up after their disagreement.<br /> |
{{note}} Linderman could have helped lock him up after their disagreement.<br /> |
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| [[Peter]] can kill [[Adam]] by using [[phasing]]. || None. || {{plus}} [[Linderman]] was killed when [[D.L.]] phased his hand into his head and removed his brain. <br /> |
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:{{note}} Although this theory may prove to be true, Linderman's power is not the same as Adam's power. [[Healing]] requires conscious effort while [[rapid cell regeneration]] works automatically.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Peter can, theoretically, remove Adam's entire brain from his body, which could prevent regeneration.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride has an ability similar to [[Molly]]'s. || Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (''[[The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei]]'') || {{plus}} It is impossible for anyone else to know where [[Hiro]] took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to [[clairvoyance|find people]].<br /> |
| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride has an ability similar to [[Molly]]'s. || Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (''[[The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei]]'') || {{plus}} It is impossible for anyone else to know where [[Hiro]] took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to [[clairvoyance|find people]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Adam could be carrying a GPS |
:{{minus}} Adam could be carrying a GPS locater.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Adam did not know he was going to be buried alive by Hiro. Adam does not seem to have a reason to carry around a GPS device.<br /> |
::{{plus}} Adam did not know he was going to be buried alive by Hiro. Adam does not seem to have a reason to carry around a GPS device.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Having been imprisoned by the Company back in 1977, it is possible Adam is implanted with an older model tracking device (the radio isotope satellite and Molly Walker being more recent systems used by the Company to track their captured subjects).<br /> |
:{{minus}} Having been imprisoned by the Company back in 1977, it is possible Adam is implanted with an older model tracking device (the radio isotope satellite and Molly Walker being more recent systems used by the Company to track their captured subjects).<br /> |
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{{minus}} His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so.<br /> |
{{minus}} His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Elle]]. || None |
| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Elle]]. || None || {{note}} The theory goes that Adam and Elle had a secret alliance and relationship.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
{{plus}} Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He says he "gave in" implying that he raped her more so than consensually slept with her. It is extremely unlikely that Elle would marry someone who raped her.<br /> |
:{{minus}} He says he "gave in" implying that he raped her more so than consensually slept with her. It is extremely unlikely that Elle would marry someone who raped her.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Adam never implied that he raped Elle. "Gave in" more likely meant that he accepted Elle's promiscuous behavior and consensually had sex with her.<br /> |
::{{plus}} Adam never implied that he raped Elle. "Gave in" more likely meant that he accepted Elle's promiscuous behavior and consensually had sex with her.<br /> |
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:::{{note}} Indeed. That wording is far more likely to indicate that Elle took the more active role in any sexual encounters. It ''could'' indicate giving into urges, but while he has shown himself to be a relatively unscrupulous bastard, Adam has never been shown to have a condition that would result in any sort of compulsion to rape.<br /> |
:::{{note}} Indeed. That wording is far more likely to indicate that Elle took the more active role in any sexual encounters. It ''could'' indicate giving into urges, but while he has shown himself to be a relatively unscrupulous bastard, Adam has never been shown to have a condition that would result in any sort of compulsion to rape.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Elle can shoot [[ |
::{{plus}} Elle can shoot [[Electric manipulation|electricity]] from her hands. It is unlikely that she could be raped.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Elle was only 16 then, as well as being much weaker physically and mentally than Adam. He could of easily manipulated and overpowered her when she was being promiscuous. So might also have not had developed [[ |
::{{minus}} Elle was only 16 then, as well as being much weaker physically and mentally than Adam. He could of easily manipulated and overpowered her when she was being promiscuous. So might also have not had developed [[Electric manipulation|her power]] as much. Even if she did, it would be moot since Adam can negate by [[regeneration|regenerating]]. <br /> |
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:::{{note}} Regenerating damage does not mean that being electrocuted would not temporarily incapacitate him. While Peter's shot didn't hinder him, it must have been relatively weak to only burn his hand, while Elle has been indicated (by [[Noah Bennet]], who in theory could have been lying to manipulate her) to have been approaching the power necessary to power a city block when she was very young. That would certainly be enough power to short out Adam's nervous system for at least long enough for her to summon help; even if it did not incapacitate him, it would certainly draw attention. This doesn't discount the possibility of his manipulating her, but as above, his claim that he "gave in" implies that she was the more active party. Unless, of course, he was lying.<br /> |
:::{{note}} Regenerating damage does not mean that being electrocuted would not temporarily incapacitate him. While Peter's shot didn't hinder him, it must have been relatively weak to only burn his hand, while Elle has been indicated (by [[Noah Bennet]], who in theory could have been lying to manipulate her) to have been approaching the power necessary to power a city block when she was very young. That would certainly be enough power to short out Adam's nervous system for at least long enough for her to summon help; even if it did not incapacitate him, it would certainly draw attention. This doesn't discount the possibility of his manipulating her, but as above, his claim that he "gave in" implies that she was the more active party. Unless, of course, he was lying.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} In [[Eris Quod Sum]], it is shown that Claire's young (relative to Adam's) [[rapid cell regeneration]] completely negates the effects of Elle's [[Lightning|electricity]].<br /> |
:::{{minus}} In [[Eris Quod Sum]], it is shown that Claire's young (relative to Adam's) [[rapid cell regeneration]] completely negates the effects of Elle's [[Lightning|electricity]].<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Elle had very little chance to catch Adam in the first place. He had a head start and could negate [[Lightning|her power]] with [[Regeneration|his power]]. Even if she did catch him, she would have quite a tough time containing him unless she had tape or rope to hold him.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Elle had very little chance to catch Adam in the first place. He had a head start and could negate [[Lightning|her power]] with [[Regeneration|his power]]. Even if she did catch him, she would have quite a tough time containing him unless she had tape or rope to hold him.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Adam's power is regeneration, not invulnerability. Regeneration does not negate the immediate effects of attacks. High levels of electricity would still result in burns, muscle contractions and, depending on conditions, severe nervous system damage. While he would heal from this, a single strong strike could take him off of his feet, and even if he could not be incapacitated, a taser-strength jolt whenever he tried to stand up would take him off his feet immediately due to the resulting spastic muscle contractions if nothing else. However, as mentioned above, she is relatively inexperienced in the field as compared to the Haitian, while Adam has a few hundred years of experience on Peter.<br /> |
::{{note}} Adam's power is regeneration, not invulnerability. Regeneration does not negate the immediate effects of attacks. High levels of electricity would still result in burns, muscle contractions and, depending on conditions, severe nervous system damage. While he would heal from this, a single strong strike could take him off of his feet, and even if he could not be incapacitated, a taser-strength jolt whenever he tried to stand up would take him off his feet immediately due to the resulting spastic muscle contractions if nothing else. However, as mentioned above, she is relatively inexperienced in the field as compared to the Haitian, while Adam has a few hundred years of experience on Peter.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} [[Rapid cell regeneration]] trumps induced [[ |
::{{minus}} [[Rapid cell regeneration]] trumps induced [[Electric manipulation|electricity]], as per Elle's confrontation with Claire in [[Eris Quod Sum]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
{{plus}} Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (''[[Four Months Ago...]]'')<br /> |
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{{plus}} Elle would be bitter towards [[Bob|her father]] for his malicious experiments, and likely to agree with Adam's opposition to [[the Company]] to spite Bob. (''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', ''[[Powerless]]'')<br /> |
{{plus}} Elle would be bitter towards [[Bob|her father]] for his malicious experiments, and likely to agree with Adam's opposition to [[the Company]] to spite Bob. (''[[Truth & Consequences]]'', ''[[Powerless]]'')<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam could have manipulated Elle's weak mental state to get her to marry him. Marriage isn't always about love.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam could have manipulated Elle's weak mental state to get her to marry him. Marriage isn't always about love.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born.<br /> |
{{minus}} Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam said his |
{{minus}} Adam said his eleventh bride will find him, meaning she cared about him.<br /> |
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| Adam can still be brought back to life. || As of episode 307 it appears that Arthur Petrelli may have been cremated, and then somehow brought back to life. Although it is possible he was not cremated at all, if he WAS, then this would suggest that although Adam was reduced to ashes, he could be revived in much the same way Arthur was. || {{note}} Adam was developed so perfectly in season two to be such a clever silver-tongued villain, I would be extremely disappointed with the producers if he met his end so simply.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} In [[Villains]], it is explained that Arthur manipulated Dr. Livitz to cremate another body to fake his death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Nathan says "But I saw..." to Peter at the end of episode 307 as if to suggest he saw his father dead, or being cremated.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Or just that Nathan saw a near dead Arthur before his "passing" and was made to believe Arthur's apparent heart attack.<br /> |
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{{minus}} This is probably mostly just wishful thinking.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam is seen in Angela Petrelli's dream in episode 302.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} That isn't "bringing Adam back to life". That would be "getting him from the past".<br /> |
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{{minus}} There is no brain left to allow him to regenerate. He is dust.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Foreshadowing about what, if not a new bride?<br /> |
:{{minus}} Foreshadowing about what, if not a new bride?<br /> |
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{{plus}} The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in ''Heroes''.<br /> |
{{plus}} The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in ''Heroes''.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The eleventh bride could have been a figment of a mentally ill man suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain.<br /> |
{{plus}} The eleventh bride could have been a figment of a mentally ill man suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride is [[Jessica]] or another of [[Niki]]'s alter egos. || None |
| [[Adam]]'s eleventh bride is [[Jessica]] or another of [[Niki]]'s alter egos. || None || {{plus}} She has the strength to free him from his coffin.<br /> |
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{{plus}} She could've got her last name when Adam was using the Sanders name.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Adam has been imprisoned since Niki was 3.<br /> |
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{{minus}} How would she find him?<br /> |
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{{minus}} Niki/Jessica is dead ([[One of Us, One of Them]]).<br /> |
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| U.S. President [[Wikipedia:James Monroe|James Monroe]] was a descendant of [[Adam]]. || None |
| U.S. President [[Wikipedia:James Monroe|James Monroe]] was a descendant of [[Adam]]. || None || {{plus}} They share the last name.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam was born over a century before President Monroe.<br /> |
{{plus}} Adam was born over a century before President Monroe.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Monroe isn't exactly an uncommon name.<br /> |
{{minus}} Monroe isn't exactly an uncommon name.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Linda Tavara]]. || None |
| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Linda Tavara]]. || None || {{plus}} Adam says that his newest wife will find him. This seems to imply that this person either has a power, or is a skilled tracker. Linda has a power, and was a private investigator.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Adam already had a wife during the seventies, [[Trina (Adam's wife)|Trina]]. |
{{minus}} Adam already had a wife during the seventies, [[Trina (Adam's wife)|Trina]].<br /> |
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:{{plus}} After his escape, there were four months in which Adam's activities were unknown. He could have met Linda then.<br /> |
:{{plus}} After his escape, there were four months in which Adam's activities were unknown. He could have met Linda then.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam has established himself as a pretty [[moral ambiguity|amoral]] person. It wouldn't exactly be out of character if he cheated on [[Trina (Adam's wife)|Trina]].<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam has established himself as a pretty [[moral ambiguity|amoral]] person. It wouldn't exactly be out of character if he cheated on [[Trina (Adam's wife)|Trina]].<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Adam stated he regretted not being able to say goodbye to her, he had genuine feelings for her as far as what is known of their |
::{{minus}} Adam stated he regretted not being able to say goodbye to her, he had genuine feelings for her as far as what is known of their relationship.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Linda is dead.<br /> |
{{minus}} Linda is dead.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} There is a gap of 19 years between his marriage before Trina and Trina. He could have been involved with her between those times as Linda died in 1972, while Adam married Trina in 1977.<br /> |
:{{plus}} There is a gap of 19 years between his marriage before Trina and Trina. He could have been involved with her between those times as Linda died in 1972, while Adam married Trina in 1977.<br /> |
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::{{note}} Linda was already dead when Adam and Trina were married.<br /> |
::{{note}} Linda was already dead when Adam and Trina were married.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Angela Petrelli]]. || None || {{plus}} Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.<br /> |
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{{plus}}She is rumored to be romantically involved with Hiro. He could break her heart thus her wanting revenge. <br /> |
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{{minus}} In the dark future, Daphne is married to Matt Parkman and the two have a child ([[I Am Become Death]]). <br /> |
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:{{note}} In Heroes, The future changes very often. Nothing from the future is reliable evidence.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Usutu painted a painting of Matt carrying Daphne, linking his future relationship with her.<br /> |
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{{note}} Adam could not have foreseen the above information.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Angela Petrelli]]. || None. || {{plus}} Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela was subject to attack by Maury Parkman at Adam's orders.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Angela was subject to attack by Maury Parkman at Adam's orders.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela says this is because Adam is "the key to unlocking this whole mystery."<br /> |
:{{minus}} Angela says this is because Adam is "the key to unlocking this whole mystery."<br /> |
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:{{plus}} As noted above, Angela also seems to implicate Adam, or at the least refer to him as merely useful, resulting in him being released. It could just be a good cover so they are not seen as working together.<br /> |
:{{plus}} As noted above, Angela also seems to implicate Adam, or at the least refer to him as merely useful, resulting in him being released. It could just be a good cover so they are not seen as working together.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Tracy Strauss]]. || None |
| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Tracy Strauss]]. || None || {{plus}} Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and [[Knox]]) in [[Angela's dream]] of the dark future ([[The Butterfly Effect]]).<br /> |
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{{minus}} In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli ([[I Am Become Death]]).<br/> |
{{minus}} In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli ([[I Am Become Death]]).<br/> |
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:{{plus}} Thanks to Future Peter's interference, that future may no longer exist.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Thanks to Future Peter's interference, that future may no longer exist.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam didn't know that.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam didn't know that.<br /> |
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| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. || None |
| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. || None || {{plus}} As of ''[[Dying of the Light]]'' Adam is now dead and his wife has not yet been revealed.<br/> |
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:{{note}} We don't yet know whether Arthur's power theft is permanent and irreversible; regenerators have otherwise recovered from worse before.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Err, when have any regenerators recovered from being turned to dust?<br /> |
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::{{minus}} What's worse than being turned to dust? Other than being [[Gravitational manipulation|completely obliterated]].<br /> |
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:::{{plus}} Ground zero when Sylar nuked Costa Verde, thats what. Both Peter and Future Claire survived that. (Okay, not worse than being dumped into a mini black hole, granted...)<br /> |
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::::{{minus}} Nathan managed to survive Peter's explosion with severe burns. It can be reasonably deduced that Peter and future Claire would fare even better. <br /> |
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:::::{{plus}} Nathan was present at considerably farther away than either Future Claire or Peter were; Peter wasn't even visible in the distance when he exploded.<br /> |
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::::::{{minus}} Nathan had also been exposed to Peter's radiation for a significant amount of time before he actually exploded, which would have lessened his resistance even further.<br /> |
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::::{{minus}} Additionally, Adam Monroe is basically destroyed. He no longer has a body to regenerate or a brain to do it.<br /> |
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| Adam was in fact born in the "present" day and taken back in time and left there. || None. || {{plus}} It seems that the company created "powers" rather then having them evolve from nothing.<br/> |
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:{{minus}} [[Peter Petrelli (exposed future)|Future Peter]] says that only some of the evolved humans were created.<br /> |
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{{minus}} In the 400 years that Adam has endured, he has met people along the way with powers.<br /> |
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| Adam is the mastermind behind the Season 3 plot. || Adam and Maury Parkman are both seen in Angela's dream, and Arthur Petrelli is not. || {{plus}} Maury has the ability to fake both his own and Adam's death. |
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:{{minus}} If Adams death was faked, how the hell did Arthur gain his ability?<br /> |
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::{{note}} Adam could have let Arthur take his ability to fake his own death. Adam knows he could regain his ability with the formula.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} Adam died the moment he lost his ability, not even the imperfect formula was ready, he'd have died the same way, not something that would've been in his plans.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Maury may be able to suppress others' powers by manipulating their minds, while also able to portray Arthur as alive and having powers.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} This also explains how Arthur had telepathic communications with Adam.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Maury has worked for Adam in the past. Maury seems to take the role of a follower, not a leader.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The other main villain to return from the dead may have all been a hallucination manufactured by Maury.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This would be totally awesome.<br /> |
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| The manifestation of [[Adam]]'s ability was related to the [[1671]] [[eclipse]]. || The later [[eclipse]] seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. || {{note}} Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when [[Hiro]] was there.<br /> |
| The manifestation of [[Adam]]'s ability was related to the [[1671]] [[eclipse]]. || The later [[eclipse]] seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. || {{note}} Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when [[Hiro]] was there.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The eclipses that happen every 370 years aren't always the eclipses that activate powers. [[Peter]] mentions a dream he had in [[Villains]] about [[Nathan]] and [[Heidi]] in their accident at the same time it was |
{{minus}} The eclipses that happen every 370 years aren't always the eclipses that activate powers. [[Peter]] mentions a dream he had in [[Villains]] about [[Nathan]] and [[Heidi]] in their accident at the same time it was occurring, which was 18 months before the total eclipse that was assumed to activate most of the other main characters' powers.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] died after [[Arthur]] absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. || None |
| [[Adam]] died after [[Arthur]] absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. || None || {{plus}} [[Claire]] was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed.<br /> |
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{{note}} Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.<br /> |
{{note}} Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.<br /> |
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{{plus}} There is no possible way that bacteria could have decomposed his body and turned him to dust that quickly. Especially in a sterile hospital room.<br /> |
{{plus}} There is no possible way that bacteria could have decomposed his body and turned him to dust that quickly. Especially in a sterile hospital room.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The most likely reason that Adam aged to death after his power was stolen was that the writers wanted it to be absolutely and instantly clear that Arthur had REMOVED his power, not just copied it.<br /> |
{{minus}} The most likely reason that Adam aged to death after his power was stolen was that the writers wanted it to be absolutely and instantly clear that Arthur had REMOVED his power, not just copied it.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] survived until [[2007]] because the [[eclipse]]s that give and take away [[powers]] only happen every 370 years. || Total solar |
| [[Adam Monroe]] survived until [[2007]] because the [[eclipse]]s that give and take away [[powers]] only happen every 370 years. || Total solar eclipses are rare [[events]]. Although they occur somewhere on Earth every 18 months on average, it has been estimated that they recur at any given place only once every 370 years, on average. The total eclipse only lasts for a few minutes at that location, as the Moon's umbra moves eastward at over 1700 km/h. Totality can never last more than 7 min 31 s, and is usually much shorter: during each millennium there are typically fewer than 10 total solar eclipses exceeding 7 minutes. The last time this happened was June 30, [[1973]] (7 min 3 sec). || {{plus}} 1603 (Total [[eclipse]]) + 68 years = [[1671]] (Annular, gives and takes away powers) [[1973]] (Total eclipse) + 34 years = [[2007]] (Hybrid eclipse, gives and takes away)<br /> |
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{{plus}} But if [[Hiro Nakamura]] was never sent to [[1671]], then Adam would've still became evil. He could trick Hiro into [[teleporting]] him to [[2011]], where he would release the [[Shanti virus]] and take over the world. So that Adam could escape the next eclipse in 2041, when he could just use a cryogenic tube or have someone with [[freezing]] put him in that state.<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]]'s eleventh wife will never be revealed. The plot is canceled. || They did the same to [[Caitlin]]. || {{plus}} Caitlin's fate was supposed to be seen in Volume Three: Exodus, but that volume was canceled. Adam's eleventh bride could have been planned to appear in that same volume, and that's why she was never mentioned again.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The volume being canceled could also explain Adam's alias "[[Richard Sanders]]" - he could have been originally intended to be [[Niki]]'s ancestor, but because of the Writers' Strike, and cancellation of Exodus, they added [[Tracy]]'s, [[Barbara]]'s and [[Dr. Zimmerman]]'s storyline, to "spice things up".<br /> |
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| [[Adam Monroe]] was written out of the show because the writers resent his character. || Adam's death scene, the most recent Behind the Eclipse. || {{plus}} Adam was a popular character, yet the writers killed his character off early in Season 3, in a humiliating way. Adam could well have remained sealed to be dug up in future seasons - instead, he was killed off quickly.<br /> |
| [[Adam Monroe]] was written out of the show because the writers resent his character. || Adam's death scene, the most recent Behind the Eclipse. || {{plus}} Adam was a popular character, yet the writers killed his character off early in Season 3, in a humiliating way. Adam could well have remained sealed to be dug up in future seasons - instead, he was killed off quickly.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It is unlikely the writers grew to resent Adam in between the decisions to write him back in in episode 4 and to write him out in episode 6.<br /> |
{{minus}} It is unlikely the writers grew to resent Adam in between the decisions to write him back in in episode 4 and to write him out in episode 6.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He may have been written back in so he could be written out in a more humiliating way.<br /> |
:{{plus}} He may have been written back in so he could be written out in a more humiliating way.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It was most likely that he was brought back to the show so as to make his death absolutely final. Leaving him in the grave would have only prompted people to continuously theorize about his return.<br /> |
::{{minus}} It was most likely that he was brought back to the show so as to make his death absolutely final. Leaving him in the grave would have only prompted people to continuously theorize about his return.<br /> |
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| Adam didn't have a sweetspot. His entire brain was vulnerable. || None || {{plus}} [[Sylar]] and [[Claire]] can only be killed if shot in the back of their head.<br /> |
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{{plus}} When [[Angela]] sent [[Matt]] and [[Nathan]] to stop Adam from releasing the [[Shanti virus]], she didn't say anything about the sweetspot, just to shoot him in the head.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] was behind Coyote Sands. || None || {{plus}} Adam said he wanted to a group of his own. This is a good way to find them.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Adam learnt about other heroes from [[Hiro]]. So a century after his cloning foe [[Evan]] mocked him, he found out how to gather his people.<br /> |
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| [[Adam]] is [[Samuel]]'s father. || None || {{plus}} Adam and [[Theresa]] were married around the time Samuel was born.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Adam didn't mention any children with Theresa.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Mrs. Sullivan]] may not have survived Coyote Sands destruction to be killed by Adam later.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} [[Joseph]] specifically states that his mother told him what happened at Coyote Sands, and how Samuel needed to be controlled.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Mrs. Sullivan could have cheated on Mr. Sullivan, making him Samuel's stepfather.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It's not even known who Samuel's father is, and if he is not Joseph's father.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Mrs. Sullivan has displayed no sign of an ability except Samuel's. Could be he and possibly Joseph got abilities from Adam.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Mrs. Sullivan was at Coyote Sands, and she knew that Samuel's power can be magnified. Unless she only was there because of Joseph and somebody else told her about Samuel's distinction, she had an ability.<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is [[Alice Shaw]]. || None || {{plus}} Adam survived Coyote Sands destruction due to his ability. He may look for any survivors and find a scared cute girl whom he might become engaged to in the future.<br /> |
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{{minus}} And yet before their fight, [[Alice]] said nothing about it to [[Angela]].<br /> |
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| Adam's eleventh bride is never identified, and never played an important role. || None || {{plus}} Adam may have been lonely, and referring to that once he does get out of the coffin, he would go search for a new woman to marry, whether out of love, lust, or loneliness.<br /> |
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{{plus}} If his "newest bride" were to play an important role, she would have been revealed before Adam died.<br /> |
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:{{note}} The writers may have originally planned to keep Adam alive, and later to find his "newest bride". However, this is unlikely.<br /> |
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| Adam is the father of [[Ted Sprague]]. || None || {{plus}} He wasn't imprisoned until 1977.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Could be Mindy helped [[Kaito]] lock up Adam.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Angela dreamt of alarms blaring, and a woman in a white coat running down a hall. This could be the event which happened in 1977, the woman being [[Victoria Pratt]]. A date, [[January 3, 1973]], is also dreamt, which is approximately nine months before Ted Sprague's birth.<br /> |
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The following fan theories are about Adam Monroe.
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| Adam Monroe is the ancestor of Claire Bennet. | None | + They both have the power of rapid cell regeneration.
+ They both have blond hair - possibly a result of genes being passed down.
+ Adam's second wife was an Italian woman who bore him two sons. These sons might be ancestors of the Petrelli's and, through Nathan, an ancestor of Claire.
+ As Kensei, Adam used the symbol as his mark; Angela also notes that the symbol was the logo of the Petrelli family law practice. |
| Adam Monroe can create copies of himself through his regenerative power. | None | + His body is charred in Out of Time, yet he is seen in the future.
+ He was able to witness the kiss between Hiro and Yaeko, even through he should be still in Whitebeard's camp given the amount time that passed.
- If rapid cell regeneration also allowed users to clone themselves, this would make Julien's ability completely obsolete.
• Low order organisms such as flat-worms can reproduce asexually through transverse fission. |
| Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. | None | + Adam Monroe was held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It was heavily implied that Linderman was the dominant figure in the Company up until his death. + Linderman might have realized that Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, but was interested in punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge.
- Linderman was one of the people who had Adam locked up. |
| Adam's eleventh bride has an ability similar to Molly's. | Adam believed that his latest bride would come to free him from his coffin. (The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei) | + It is impossible for anyone else to know where Hiro took Adam unless they have Molly's ability to find people.
- His last wife was Trina (who remarried and later died while he was imprisoned). I doubt the reference to his "latest wife" was someone he met and married with in the four months leading up to the beginning of season 2. He would have been too busy planning the deaths of the founders. It makes more sense that he would have meant Trina was coming for him to take him to the other side. He stated that he had died many times while buried alive, so it stands to reason that after so many deaths, he would start to think one of these deaths would be his last, and at that point he would most likely be wishing it to be so. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Elle. | None | • The theory goes that Adam and Elle had a secret alliance and relationship. + Adam implies that he slept with Elle. (Four Months Ago...)
+ Elle is the only person besides Peter that Adam has had major contact with in the past 30 years.
+ In Four Months Ago..., the Haitian chased Peter while Elle chased Adam. Peter was easily caught, and he was far more powerful than Adam. It is possible that Elle purposely let Adam escape.
+ Elle is a sadist; it is possible she agrees with Adam's misanthropy. (Four Months Ago...)
- There is no reason that Elle would know the location of Adam's new prison.
- Elle's First Assignment was eight months ago. Elle was closely watched before this point. It is unlikely that Elle could have a secret marriage in this time.
- Adam seems to dislike Elle.
- Adam was locked up by the company before Elle was even born. |
| Adam's eleventh bride doesn't really exist. | None | + The line about his newest bride could just be foreshadowing.
+ The eleventh bride could never be mentioned again and turn out to be a forgotten plot thread that is never resolved, which has been known to happen in Heroes. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Jessica or another of Niki's alter egos. | None | + She has the strength to free him from his coffin. |
| U.S. President James Monroe was a descendant of Adam. | None | + They share the last name. + Adam was born over a century before President Monroe. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Linda Tavara. | None | + Adam says that his newest wife will find him. This seems to imply that this person either has a power, or is a skilled tracker. Linda has a power, and was a private investigator. - Adam already had a wife during the seventies, Trina.
- Linda is dead.
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| Adam's eleventh bride is Angela Petrelli. | None | + Adam said that his newest bride would find him. Angela Petrelli indeed did it, once she (indirectly) asked Hiro to release Adam, in order to find out where the formula is.
+ Angela has admitted to having sexual relations with Kaito, therefore it's possible she slept with Adam as well.
- Adam seemed to have a positive opinion of his eleventh bride, whereas Angela was the first he implicated as the possible thief of the formula.
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| Adam's eleventh bride is Tracy Strauss. | None | + Either she or Barbara is standing beside Adam (along with Maury Parkman and Knox) in Angela's dream of the dark future (The Butterfly Effect). - In the dark future, Tracy Strauss is the First Lady, married to President Nathan Petrelli (I Am Become Death).
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| Adam was originally intended to have an eleventh wife but the writers changed the storyline so that he will no longer have one. | None | + As of Dying of the Light Adam is now dead and his wife has not yet been revealed. |
| The manifestation of Adam's ability was related to the 1671 eclipse. | The later eclipse seems tied to the abilities of numerous others. | • Adam seemed unaware of his abilities until he healed when Hiro was there. - The eclipses that happen every 370 years aren't always the eclipses that activate powers. Peter mentions a dream he had in Villains about Nathan and Heidi in their accident at the same time it was occurring, which was 18 months before the total eclipse that was assumed to activate most of the other main characters' powers. |
| Adam died after Arthur absorbed his power due to the viruses and infections that were kept dormant due to his power. | None | + Claire was immediately prone to a bad infection from the shot wound she received. Imagine this times over 400 years of collecting viruses and bacteria that one's immune system never killed. • Claire lost her ability temporarily to the eclipse. She was not infected until she was shot.
• The human body is full of important non pathogenic bacteria, and without them humans would lack important nutrients, such as vitamin B complex. |
| Adam Monroe survived until 2007 because the eclipses that give and take away powers only happen every 370 years. | Total solar eclipses are rare events. Although they occur somewhere on Earth every 18 months on average, it has been estimated that they recur at any given place only once every 370 years, on average. The total eclipse only lasts for a few minutes at that location, as the Moon's umbra moves eastward at over 1700 km/h. Totality can never last more than 7 min 31 s, and is usually much shorter: during each millennium there are typically fewer than 10 total solar eclipses exceeding 7 minutes. The last time this happened was June 30, 1973 (7 min 3 sec). | + 1603 (Total eclipse) + 68 years = 1671 (Annular, gives and takes away powers) 1973 (Total eclipse) + 34 years = 2007 (Hybrid eclipse, gives and takes away) + But if Hiro Nakamura was never sent to 1671, then Adam would've still became evil. He could trick Hiro into teleporting him to 2011, where he would release the Shanti virus and take over the world. So that Adam could escape the next eclipse in 2041, when he could just use a cryogenic tube or have someone with freezing put him in that state. |
| Adam Monroe was written out of the show because the writers resent his character. | Adam's death scene, the most recent Behind the Eclipse. | + Adam was a popular character, yet the writers killed his character off early in Season 3, in a humiliating way. Adam could well have remained sealed to be dug up in future seasons - instead, he was killed off quickly. - Older BTE interviews stated that they had to kill Adam to establish Arthur Petrelli as villain.
+ The most recent Behind the Eclipse scorned the possibility of Adam returning in Volume 4, remarking about Adam's thorough death scene.
+ Adam's role in the story has been marginalized since his death, despite his important role prior to Season 3.
+ The aforementioned Behind the Eclipse alluded to 'dirty laundry' and fights behind the scenes. Perhaps a grudge against David Anders is among this dirty laundry.
- It is unlikely the writers grew to resent Adam in between the decisions to write him back in in episode 4 and to write him out in episode 6.
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| Adam didn't have a sweetspot. His entire brain was vulnerable. | None | + Sylar and Claire can only be killed if shot in the back of their head. + When Angela sent Matt and Nathan to stop Adam from releasing the Shanti virus, she didn't say anything about the sweetspot, just to shoot him in the head. |
| Adam was behind Coyote Sands. | None | + Adam said he wanted to a group of his own. This is a good way to find them. + Adam learnt about other heroes from Hiro. So a century after his cloning foe Evan mocked him, he found out how to gather his people. |
| Adam is Samuel's father. | None | + Adam and Theresa were married around the time Samuel was born.
+ Mrs. Sullivan could have cheated on Mr. Sullivan, making him Samuel's stepfather.
+ Mrs. Sullivan has displayed no sign of an ability except Samuel's. Could be he and possibly Joseph got abilities from Adam.
+ They're both possible causes of dark futures. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is Alice Shaw. | None | + Adam survived Coyote Sands destruction due to his ability. He may look for any survivors and find a scared cute girl whom he might become engaged to in the future. - And yet before their fight, Alice said nothing about it to Angela. |
| Adam's eleventh bride is never identified, and never played an important role. | None | + Adam may have been lonely, and referring to that once he does get out of the coffin, he would go search for a new woman to marry, whether out of love, lust, or loneliness. + If his "newest bride" were to play an important role, she would have been revealed before Adam died.
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| Adam is the father of Ted Sprague. | None | + He wasn't imprisoned until 1977. + Mindy is Ted's mother and she carried a file about Adam.
+ There is no mention of Ted's father. |
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