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:{{note}} Arthur doesn't get younger once he steals [[Adam]]'s ability.<br /> |
:{{note}} Arthur doesn't get younger once he steals [[Adam]]'s ability.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} He stole the ability. That may explain why he didn't suddenly "de-age".<br /> |
::{{minus}} He stole the ability. That may explain why he didn't suddenly "de-age".<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} Aging is caused by DNA degrading while cells split. Regeneration would simply stop this process from continuing from whatever point the body started regenerating. This point in DNA degradation would be the "standard model" for all future mitosis, any DNA that degrades and no longer fits this model is regenerated, therefore regeneration only prevents aging from continuing.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.<br /> |
{{plus}} Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Having the hair cut is not something dangerous. Having the hair burned with radiation is more dangerous.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Having the hair cut is not something dangerous. Having the hair burned with radiation is more dangerous.<br /> |
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| This power ''creates'' the matter necessary for new body parts to grow. || None || {{plus}} Growth needs matter, which would usually be taken from the body, leading to weight loss, and yet none of the known evolved humans with this power displayed this.<br /> |
| This power ''creates'' the matter necessary for new body parts to grow. || None || {{plus}} Growth needs matter, which would usually be taken from the body, leading to weight loss, and yet none of the known evolved humans with this power displayed this.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Maybe the wounds aren't big enough to be noticed by the body.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Maybe the wounds aren't big enough to be noticed by the body.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Peter loses a great deal of blood in ''[[Homecoming]]'' with no adverse side effects.<br /> |
::{{plus}} Peter loses a great deal of blood in ''[[Episode:Homecoming|Homecoming]]'' with no adverse side effects.<br /> |
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:::{{note}} While it is explained as an overload of powers, Peter did become sick shortly after that incident, which could indicate that matter was appropriated from various organs (albeit not enough to have an immediate loss of health) in order to create enough blood for him to survive.<br /> |
:::{{note}} While it is explained as an overload of powers, Peter did become sick shortly after that incident, which could indicate that matter was appropriated from various organs (albeit not enough to have an immediate loss of health) in order to create enough blood for him to survive.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Peter's nose bleeds after he opens the safe with the virus in it.<br /> |
:{{note}} Peter's nose bleeds after he opens the safe with the virus in it.<br /> |
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:{{note}} If that's the case, then the power would break one of the main rule of physics (that matter cannot be created, only transformed).<br /> |
:{{note}} If that's the case, then the power would break one of the main rule of physics (that matter cannot be created, only transformed).<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Matter ''can'' be created from energy. One of the founding principles of modern physics is Einstein's formula equating energy and matter (e=mc^2;energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared). Granted: it's absurd by modern technological standards, but this show is fantasy, and the laws of physics need not even apply. Further, the power of 'Alchemy' already seems to break the general rule of conservation/non-creation of mass ('''not''' a law, fusion bombs cause a decrease in mass by fusion) by transmuting an element of a lesser atomic mass into gold, or any element into another element with a higher mass.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Matter ''can'' be created from energy. One of the founding principles of modern physics is Einstein's formula equating energy and matter (e=mc^2;energy equals mass multiplied by the speed of light squared). Granted: it's absurd by modern technological standards, but this show is fantasy, and the laws of physics need not even apply. Further, the power of 'Alchemy' already seems to break the general rule of conservation/non-creation of mass ('''not''' a law, fusion bombs cause a decrease in mass by fusion) by transmuting an element of a lesser atomic mass into gold, or any element into another element with a higher mass.<br /> |
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::{{note}} While all this about Einsteins formula is true, matter is still ''converted'' from energy into matter, and vice versa. It is impossible to ''create'' matter and energy from nothing, but not to ''convert'' it. There is a difference in creating and converting.<br /> |
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{{note}} Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is |
{{note}} Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is certainly the same as with all other organisms (the DNA of cells being replicated, leading to the entire cell being duplicated), just at a highly accelerated rate. The cells required to replace damaged ones are created exactly the same as those of other organisms.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The ability could involve a recycling of the matter from the damaged tissue to create new, healthy tissue.<br /> |
{{plus}} The ability could involve a recycling of the matter from the damaged tissue to create new, healthy tissue.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Maybe the original matter wasn't around.<br /> |
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| Heroes with this power cannot contract the [[Shanti virus]]. || None || {{plus}} [[Peter]] shows no symptoms of the virus when landing in an infected future New York.<br /> |
| Heroes with this power cannot contract the [[Shanti virus]]. || None || {{plus}} [[Peter]] shows no symptoms of the virus when landing in an infected future New York.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".<br /> |
{{plus}} Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".<br /> |
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{{note}} It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.<br /> |
{{note}} It is possible that another bodily fluid, such as tears from either Adam or Claire, could heal people.<br /> |
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:{{note}} If tears would work, then it would effectively make Claire and Adam like phoenix, seeing as phoenixes are meant to have healing tears.<br /> |
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| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. || None || {{plus}} It is in that region they are both pierced.<br /> |
| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. || None || {{plus}} It is in that region they are both pierced.<br /> |
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| When [[Meredith]] made the air thin in ''[[One of Us, One of Them]]'', Claire couldn't breathe. || None || {{minus}} It may be that over-time [[Adam]] has adapted to survive without oxygen; he was buried alive in a casket without it. [[Claire]] has never been in that situation except that one time, and has only lived for 16 years.<br /> |
| When [[Meredith]] made the air thin in ''[[One of Us, One of Them]]'', Claire couldn't breathe. || None || {{minus}} It may be that over-time [[Adam]] has adapted to survive without oxygen; he was buried alive in a casket without it. [[Claire]] has never been in that situation except that one time, and has only lived for 16 years.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam died dozens of times in his coffin. (''[[The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei]]'')<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam died dozens of times in his coffin. (''[[The Ten Brides of Takezo Kensei]]'')<br /> |
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{{minus}} Claire's body was tricked into thinking it couldn't breathe. Meredith explains this in One of Us, One of Them.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Claire's mind was tricked, not her body.<br /> |
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| [[Ability supercharging|Supercharging]] this ability would result in an individual immune to [[mental manipulation|having his/her memories erased]]. || None || {{plus}} Peter has already healed his own mind after having memories erased, but it required conscious effort.<br /> |
| [[Ability supercharging|Supercharging]] this ability would result in an individual immune to [[mental manipulation|having his/her memories erased]]. || None || {{plus}} Peter has already healed his own mind after having memories erased, but it required conscious effort.<br /> |
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{{plus}} The ability seems to have lessened pain from the start; despite that Claire claims that it does not. During the eclipse, both Sylar and Claire complain about 'pain' when they previously have not. Sylar could barely stand to have his bone set without the ability. Claire had never once complained about pain until she was in the hospital. Since this is an effect of the power, it is likely to be able to grow stronger in its effect.<br /> |
{{plus}} The ability seems to have lessened pain from the start; despite that Claire claims that it does not. During the eclipse, both Sylar and Claire complain about 'pain' when they previously have not. Sylar could barely stand to have his bone set without the ability. Claire had never once complained about pain until she was in the hospital. Since this is an effect of the power, it is likely to be able to grow stronger in its effect.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Immunity to pain is useful in practice, particularly when bodily damage is no threat at all.<br /> |
{{plus}} Immunity to pain is useful in practice, particularly when bodily damage is no threat at all.<br /> |
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{{plus}} When [[Peter Petrelli]] had [[René]]'s power in [[Let It Bleed]], [[Claire]] cut her finger (which did not heal) and felt pain, because he was negating her power accidentally.<br /> |
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| The spot that can kill a regenerator is the part of the brain that controls the power. || None || {{plus}} All regenerators die at least temporarily when the spot is penetrated or in Arthur's case, destroyed.<br /> |
| The spot that can kill a regenerator is the part of the brain that controls the power. || None || {{plus}} All regenerators die at least temporarily when the spot is penetrated or in Arthur's case, destroyed.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The bullet may have gone between the eyes and lodged in the back of the head, thereby keeping all regenerators (excepting Sylar) weak in the back of the head.<br /> |
{{minus}} The bullet may have gone between the eyes and lodged in the back of the head, thereby keeping all regenerators (excepting Sylar) weak in the back of the head.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Arthur took regeneration from Adam and Peter, so he would have two sweetspots.<br /> |
{{minus}} Arthur took regeneration from Adam and Peter, so he would have two sweetspots.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Arthur was not "shot" between the eyes. |
{{minus}} Arthur was not "shot" between the eyes. Sylar had already stopped the bullet with TK. He then purposefully propelled the bullet directly into where he already knew the sweet spot was with TK. That is why the bullet didn't come out the back of Arthur's head, and why Arthur died.<br /> |
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:{{note}} Nope. When Sylar stopped the bullet, the bullet itself was still moving in its own place, as if it was being held back, similar to being frozen in time. It didn't even change its trajectory.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Telekinesis does not work as a time stop effect. He stopped the bullet completely and held it in place, exactly the same as he has done in the past. When Arthur failed the "truth" test, he simply propelled it forward along its already established path and stopped it in the sweet spot. The bullet's trajectory didn't have to change because Peter has already shot it in the right place.<br /> |
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| [[Sylar]] has used [[intuitive aptitude]] to find out how to activate and deactivate this ability, explaining how [[Future Peter]] can still have his scar. || When Sylar was cutting "I Am Sylar" into his arm, he didn't heal until he had finished the sentence. || {{plus}} It makes sense.<br /> |
| [[Sylar]] has used [[intuitive aptitude]] to find out how to activate and deactivate this ability, explaining how [[Future Peter]] can still have his scar. || When Sylar was cutting "I Am Sylar" into his arm, he didn't heal until he had finished the sentence. || {{plus}} It makes sense.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Regeneration is a passive ability.<br /> |
{{minus}} Regeneration is a passive ability.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Sylar can delay the process. (''[[Turn and Face the Strange]]'')<br /> |
:{{plus}} Sylar can delay the process. (''[[Turn and Face the Strange]]'')<br /> |
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{{minus}} He may have used telekinesis to hold the wounds open.<br /> |
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{{minus}} [[Future Hiro]] went back in time to tell [[Peter]] to save the cheerleader. This lead [[Peter]] to meet [[Claire]] much earlier than he would have done otherwise, meaning [[Future Peter]] could have got his scar before he met [[Claire]] in the alternate [[Explosion Future]]. This would mean a scarred [[Peter]] would be the template for his future celular regeneration.<br /> |
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| If this [[ability]] was [[Ability supercharging|supercharged]], it would have similar effects to [[impenetrable skin]]. || None || {{minus}} While both abilities deal with resisting harm, regeneration works by repairing the harm, whereas impenetrable skin prevents it altogether.<br /> |
| If this [[ability]] was [[Ability supercharging|supercharged]], it would have similar effects to [[impenetrable skin]]. || None || {{minus}} While both abilities deal with resisting harm, regeneration works by repairing the harm, whereas impenetrable skin prevents it altogether.<br /> |
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| If a regenerator was shot through the center of the brain, they would survive, because the abilities are located at the back of the head. || When Sylar pokes through Claire's head, he is looking at the back of the brain. (''[[The Second Coming]]'') || {{note}} [[Adam]]'s regeneration may be different from [[Claire]]'s. [[Angela]] told [[Nathan]] and [[Matt]] to shoot him just in the head, and [[Arthur]], who took Adam's ability, died when the bullet went through his forehead.<br /> |
| If a regenerator was shot through the center of the brain, they would survive, because the abilities are located at the back of the head. || When Sylar pokes through Claire's head, he is looking at the back of the brain. (''[[The Second Coming]]'') || {{note}} [[Adam]]'s regeneration may be different from [[Claire]]'s. [[Angela]] told [[Nathan]] and [[Matt]] to shoot him just in the head, and [[Arthur]], who took Adam's ability, died when the bullet went through his forehead.<br /> |
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| This power has the potential to cause cancer. || None || {{plus}} Cancer is caused by cells replicating to much, and this power works by replicating cells to replace lost cells.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} No one we know of has it, someone we don't know of might have it.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Cancer is caused by uncontrolled cellular replication, this power only creates enough cells to replace missing ones, it doesn't produce any more or less than that.<br /> |
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{{minus}} When a regenerator's blood is injected into another person, it probably "reboots" them genetically, healing injuries by restoring the body to the state its DNA says it should be in. Since cancer cells are naturally predisposed toward replication, rebooting cancer cells could cause them to replicate more quickly.<br /> |
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| Regeneration involves metabolizing background radiation. || None. || {{plus}} [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus| Certain types]] of fungus can absorb radiation and convert it into nourishment. A hyper-efficient version of this could make the seeming "creation" of new matter to heal injuries possible.<br /> |
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{{plus}} This would explain why Claire's ability didn't malfunction after being exposed to [[Ted Sprague|Ted]]'s meltdown (which would have exposed her to more than enough ionizing radiation to turn her DNA into confetti); her ability gave her a form of immunity to radiation's ill effects.<br /> |
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| This power depends of the individual self-image. It heals the person using it to what they think they should like. | None | + All powers come from the brain.
+ Claire's hair also "regenerates" when she is burned by Ted's power.
+ Peter's tattoo vanishes minutes after is made.
+ Claire's hair seems to grow back, but Peter very obviously has gotten a haircut.
- If this were true, then a regenerator who had their memories erased (and thus had no self-image) could be tricked into transforming to look like someone else by simply showing them a person's photograph and claiming that is what they look like. |
| This power creates the matter necessary for new body parts to grow. | None | + Growth needs matter, which would usually be taken from the body, leading to weight loss, and yet none of the known evolved humans with this power displayed this.
• Whether or not this theory is actually suggesting this or not, the ability's means of producing new cells is certainly the same as with all other organisms (the DNA of cells being replicated, leading to the entire cell being duplicated), just at a highly accelerated rate. The cells required to replace damaged ones are created exactly the same as those of other organisms.
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| Heroes with this power cannot contract the Shanti virus. | None | + Peter shows no symptoms of the virus when landing in an infected future New York.
+ Bob believes Claire is the key to curing the virus.
- Peter was supposed to have died in the outbreak from the Shanti virus in the alternate future shown in Out of Time.
• Adam seems very certain that he will survive the release of the virus--of course, his self-image is astronomical, and he has a god complex. |
| The exact process of rapid cell regeneration involves a rapid release of some sort of healing chemical from the brain into the bloodstream. | None | + Although abilities are centered in the brain, Adam was able to heal Nathan by giving him some of his blood. (Four Months Ago...) + Claire was not able to heal when she had a branch stuck in her head. Peter was not able to heal with the shard of glass in his head. Obstructions such as these could prevent the release of the "healing chemical".
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| "Death" is caused by piercing of the cerebellum and brain stem. | None | + It is in that region they are both pierced. + The cerebellum controls motor functions making the body paralyzed. The brain stem controls the heart. Block that connection and the heart stops.
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| The speed of regeneration will become progressively quicker. | None | + Adam has been able to heal at a much faster rate in the present than he did in the past. |
| If you revived a healer after they were impaled with something causing "death" by pulling it out of them thousands of years later, they would revive unaffected. | None | - This would require the brain to have remained intact and relatively unharmed. This would almost require extensive planning, and even with that would be very unlikely. + In Collision, it is stated that Claire was dumped naked in a river since the night before, considering the conditions, the brain would have not been intact after this much time had passed, yet she was able to regenerate.
• There is a certain part of Chile where the formation of rain clouds is impossible due to geography and wind patterns. The deserts there have no bacteria, making bodily decay impossible. People who died thousands of years ago have been found in perfect condition. If the regenerator's body was there, then they'd be fine. |
| This power wouldn't stop you from being killed if you were strangled. | None | - This wouldn't kill a person if they can survive without oxygen. Adam can survive without oxygen in his grave. - While this might be a good and realistic limitation, Adam Monroe is able to fake his death with drowning.
- As soon as you let go of the regenerator's neck, they would come back to life as oxygen flow was restored. |
| When Meredith made the air thin in One of Us, One of Them, Claire couldn't breathe. | None | - It may be that over-time Adam has adapted to survive without oxygen; he was buried alive in a casket without it. Claire has never been in that situation except that one time, and has only lived for 16 years.
- Claire's body was tricked into thinking it couldn't breathe. Meredith explains this in One of Us, One of Them.
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| Supercharging this ability would result in an individual immune to having his/her memories erased. | None | + Peter has already healed his own mind after having memories erased, but it required conscious effort. + It has been noted that tempering with the mind leaves "scars".
• In order to test this theory, a regenerator needs to be affected by ability supercharging and mental manipulation or telepathy simultaneously... Sounds insanely complicated. |
| Supercharging this ability too much would result in the persons mind unable to retain new information. | None | - Neural connections made from new information doesn't constitute injury, or something that needs healing. |
| Supercharging this ability would result in the people around the regenerator to temporarily heal. | None | - Regenerators can heal others through their blood, no supercharging required.
- It makes no sense for people not directly involved with the abilities to be affected, it would only make the regeneration faster or more effective.
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| It would be possible to acquire a mild form of enhanced strength simply by weight lifting when having this ability, because the muscle tissue would rebuild instantly. | "The good news is, you've certainly got the strength..." - Noah Bennet to Claire in The Eclipse, Part 1 | + Claire has not been shown to try to do much serious exercise, explaining why she doesn't have any serious strength. But she isn't that weak either. + It would be a method for Claire to become more useful. |
| The inability to feel pain is the enhanced form of this ability. | None | + After a massive amount of adrenaline when encountering Sylar, Claire can no longer feel pain. + Claire could feel pain during the eclipse. The eclipse only takes away abilities, indicating that the loss of pain was an effect of her ability. |
| The spot that can kill a regenerator is the part of the brain that controls the power. | None | + All regenerators die at least temporarily when the spot is penetrated or in Arthur's case, destroyed. • This is a bit obvious.
- Sylar has stated that Claire can't die.
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| The sweetspot (or killspot) is different for every regenerator. | Arthur died from a bullet between the eyes, and didn't expell it like other regenerators have, perhaps because that is the killspot for Adam's regeneration. Claire's sweetspot carried over to those who stole or mimicked it. | + Only lodging objects in the sweetspot kills the regenerator, so therefore "between-the-eyes" might be the sweetspot for Adam and Arthur. - The bullet may have gone between the eyes and lodged in the back of the head, thereby keeping all regenerators (excepting Sylar) weak in the back of the head.
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| Sylar has used intuitive aptitude to find out how to activate and deactivate this ability, explaining how Future Peter can still have his scar. | When Sylar was cutting "I Am Sylar" into his arm, he didn't heal until he had finished the sentence. | + It makes sense. - Claire doesn't always heal immediately, it takes a couple seconds sometimes.
- He may have used telekinesis to hold the wounds open. |
| If this ability was supercharged, it would have similar effects to impenetrable skin. | None | - While both abilities deal with resisting harm, regeneration works by repairing the harm, whereas impenetrable skin prevents it altogether. |
| Brain tumors can kill people with this ability. | Tumors are living tissue, and grow stronger with her regenerative blood. (Tabula Rasa) | + If a regenerator were to get a brain tumor, the ability wouldn't protect him/her, maybe even damaging the part of the brain responsible for the power.
- A regenerator's body is highly efficient; when she was cooked by Ted's power in Company Man, her ability restored her without any problems. The amount of radiation she was exposed to should have caused tumors to develop all over her body, but her body sensed that the 'immature' tumors were 'abnormal' and destroyed them. Even if a regenerator developed a tumor somehow, it would be obliterated by their ability.
- If regenerator blood had the same effect on the regenerator that it did on recipients, then even a small, benign tumor would kill them within minutes of its formation. As their blood made it grow, the area in which the tumor was would bulge and finally rupture as the now-massive tumor exploded from their body. |
| Rapid cell regeneration involves perfect cell replication. | Tumors would grow as a result of this ability ("Tabula Rasa"). | + If you were to accelerate the normal cell reproduction process in a human to the speeds of rapid cell regeneration, mutations - and therefore cancerous cells and tumors - would occur very often. • This is to say, while a tumor would kill someone with this ability, it is impossible for them to get one. |
| If a regenerator was shot through the center of the brain, they would survive, because the abilities are located at the back of the head. | When Sylar pokes through Claire's head, he is looking at the back of the brain. (The Second Coming) | • Adam's regeneration may be different from Claire's. Angela told Nathan and Matt to shoot him just in the head, and Arthur, who took Adam's ability, died when the bullet went through his forehead. |
| This power has the potential to cause cancer. | None | + Cancer is caused by cells replicating to much, and this power works by replicating cells to replace lost cells.
- When a regenerator's blood is injected into another person, it probably "reboots" them genetically, healing injuries by restoring the body to the state its DNA says it should be in. Since cancer cells are naturally predisposed toward replication, rebooting cancer cells could cause them to replicate more quickly. |
| Regeneration involves metabolizing background radiation. | None. | + [Certain types] of fungus can absorb radiation and convert it into nourishment. A hyper-efficient version of this could make the seeming "creation" of new matter to heal injuries possible. + This would explain why Claire's ability didn't malfunction after being exposed to Ted's meltdown (which would have exposed her to more than enough ionizing radiation to turn her DNA into confetti); her ability gave her a form of immunity to radiation's ill effects. |
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