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{{plus}} He removed Maya's power for her.<br /> |
{{plus}} He removed Maya's power for her.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} He probably just did this to gain power and allies.<br /> |
:{{minus}} He probably just did this to gain power and allies.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He killed Maury only because he went against him. |
{{minus}} He killed Maury only because he went against him. Maury was doing a heroic thing: defending his son.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He killed Adam because he needed his regeneration ability.<br /> |
{{minus}} He killed Adam because he needed his regeneration ability.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He made no effort to stop Sylar from attempting to kill Peter.<br /> |
{{minus}} He made no effort to stop Sylar from attempting to kill Peter.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He could have been meaning to let Peter go and keep Sylar there. |
:{{plus}} He could have been meaning to let Peter go and keep Sylar there. It could have been Arthur that used psychic powers to cushion the fall.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Arthur deduced that Sylar has empathy because Sylar saved Peter.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Arthur deduced that Sylar has empathy because Sylar saved Peter.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Perhaps waffles cushioned Peter's fall.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Perhaps waffles cushioned Peter's fall.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Arthur likes Sylar the way he is; that is to say, a killer.<br /> |
{{minus}} Arthur likes Sylar the way he is; that is to say, a killer.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He could be recruiting all the villains together so they don't go killing others, and so he can have them all together to steal their powers and stop them from being a threat to society.<br /> |
:{{plus}} He could be recruiting all the villains together so they don't go killing others, and so he can have them all together to steal their powers and stop them from being a threat to society.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} So Arthur's plan is to prevent villains from being a threat to society. |
::{{minus}} So Arthur's plan is to prevent villains from being a threat to society. Yet Arthur himself is a murderer.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Arthur killed Peter, Nathan, and Tracy in Angela's dream.<br /> |
{{minus}} Arthur killed Peter, Nathan, and Tracy in Angela's dream.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He wasn't shown to have killed anyone, except maybe Peter in self-defense. |
:{{plus}} He wasn't shown to have killed anyone, except maybe Peter in self-defense. Peter was the one with blood on his hands.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Arthur had blood on his hands as well.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Arthur had blood on his hands as well.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He was fully behind the New York plan, and wouldn't hesitate to kill his own son to protect himself.<br /> |
{{minus}} He was fully behind the New York plan, and wouldn't hesitate to kill his own son to protect himself.<br /> |
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| Arthur's power absorption effects people with artificial powers and genetic powers differently. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur killed Adam Monroe when he absorbed Monroe's cellular regeneration however, but when he took Maya and Peter's powers they were only shown to experience severe discomfort.<br /> |
| Arthur's power absorption effects people with artificial powers and genetic powers differently. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur killed Adam Monroe when he absorbed Monroe's cellular regeneration however, but when he took Maya and Peter's powers they were only shown to experience severe discomfort.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} As far as it's known, Adam, Maya and Peter's abilities were all natural.<br /> |
:{{minus}} As far as it's known, Adam, Maya and Peter's abilities were all natural.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}Adam Monroe died because once his power was taken from him, his body could not hold off the aging process and so he rapidly aged 400 years in a matter of seconds. |
:{{minus}} Adam Monroe died because once his power was taken from him, his body could not hold off the aging process and so he rapidly aged 400 years in a matter of seconds. Peter or Maya's abilities were not necessary to sustain their bodies.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Adam Monroe's power was rapid cellular regeneration, the regeneration was so fast and efficient the cells regenerated at the same rate as aging destroyed them, there was no build up of 400 years of aging that was suspended over him because his cells were dealing with the aging as it happened, if having his powers removed would kill him wouldn't the Haitian accidentally do it like as soon as they met?<br /> |
::{{plus}} Adam Monroe's power was rapid cellular regeneration, the regeneration was so fast and efficient the cells regenerated at the same rate as aging destroyed them, there was no build up of 400 years of aging that was suspended over him because his cells were dealing with the aging as it happened, if having his powers removed would kill him wouldn't the Haitian accidentally do it like as soon as they met?<br /> |
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:::{{note}} Logically you are completely correct, but this is a fictional television show with writers that are human and make mistakes. |
:::{{note}} Logically you are completely correct, but this is a fictional television show with writers that are human and make mistakes. It is impossible to determine what they were thinking. <br /> |
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:::{{note}} Yes, it would seem that instead of aging quickly, when Adam lost his regeneration ability, he would have just ceased staying the same age, and begun aging at the normal rate of any other normal person.<br /> |
:::{{note}} Yes, it would seem that instead of aging quickly, when Adam lost his regeneration ability, he would have just ceased staying the same age, and begun aging at the normal rate of any other normal person.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Adam Monroe first showed signs of his power hundreds of years ago long before an artificial formula was created, Peter is a son of Arthur it is known that Arthur used the formula on Peter's older brother Nathan, Maya could have been artificially given powers when she was younger with Alejandro their past has as of yet not been shown in flashbacks.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam Monroe first showed signs of his power hundreds of years ago long before an artificial formula was created, Peter is a son of Arthur it is known that Arthur used the formula on Peter's older brother Nathan, Maya could have been artificially given powers when she was younger with Alejandro their past has as of yet not been shown in flashbacks.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It seems highly coincidental that Peter's power would be similar to Arthur or Sylar without it being an inherent power.<br /> |
:{{note}} It seems highly coincidental that Peter's power would be similar to Arthur or Sylar without it being an inherent power.<br /> |
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| Arthur absorbed [[Maury Parkman]]'s powers before the beginning of the series, and over time Maury regenerated them. || None. || {{plus}} Maury was one of the company founders, so it stands to reason that he and Arthur came into contact many times prior to the series. |
| Arthur absorbed [[Maury Parkman]]'s powers before the beginning of the series, and over time Maury regenerated them. || None. || {{plus}} Maury was one of the company founders, so it stands to reason that he and Arthur came into contact many times prior to the series. So it is very possible that Arthur stole his powers from Maury.<br /> |
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{{note}} This would mean that stolen powers do regenerate over time, since Maury had his powers in season two.<br /> |
{{note}} This would mean that stolen powers do regenerate over time, since Maury had his powers in season two.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Arthur seems confident that his [[power absorption]] is permanent, yet he has been working with Maury again for an undisclosed amount of time, and obviously knows that Maury still knows that Maury still has his ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Arthur seems confident that his [[power absorption]] is permanent, yet he has been working with Maury again for an undisclosed amount of time, and obviously knows that Maury still knows that Maury still has his ability.<br /> |
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{{Plus}} Maury could have regained his powers by using [[the formula]].<br /> |
{{Plus}} Maury could have regained his powers by using [[the formula]].<br /> |
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|Arthur [[power absorption|stole]] [[dream manipulation]] from [[Sanjog Iyer]]. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur has entered [[Angela]]'s dream, spoken to her and put her into a coma. |
|Arthur [[power absorption|stole]] [[dream manipulation]] from [[Sanjog Iyer]]. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur has entered [[Angela]]'s dream, spoken to her and put her into a coma. He also did a similar thing to [[Matt Parkman]], creating a dream-illusion of [[Daphne]] to attack Matt while he was inside Angela's dream.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Neither [[Matt]] nor [[Maury]] have been seen to be capable of using their [[telepathy]] at such great a distance (Arthur was in New Jersey, while Angela was in New York); suggesting that Arthur was not using [[telepathy]] during these circumstances.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Neither [[Matt]] nor [[Maury]] have been seen to be capable of using their [[telepathy]] at such great a distance (Arthur was in New Jersey, while Angela was in New York); suggesting that Arthur was not using [[telepathy]] during these circumstances.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} [[Maury]] was able to use his telepathy on [[Molly Walker]] once she located him. Arthur used a similar connection to Angela when she dreamed of him. |
::{{minus}} [[Maury]] was able to use his telepathy on [[Molly Walker]] once she located him. Arthur used a similar connection to Angela when she dreamed of him. Arthur told Hiro "I understand you've been dreaming about me", so apparently he senses those dreams in much the same way that Maury sensed Molly locating him.<br /> |
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{{plus}} We haven't seen [[Sanjog]] in a while, and [[Pinehearst]] has been locating and capturing a lot of [[evolved humans]] lately.<br /> |
{{plus}} We haven't seen [[Sanjog]] in a while, and [[Pinehearst]] has been locating and capturing a lot of [[evolved humans]] lately.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} There is no evidence that Arthur has ever heard of Sanjog, much less captured him.<br /> |
:{{minus}} There is no evidence that Arthur has ever heard of Sanjog, much less captured him.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Arthur said that Nathan was most like him and Nathan is not an empath.<br /> |
{{minus}} Arthur said that Nathan was most like him and Nathan is not an empath.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The fact that Arthur, Peter, and Sylar all collect abilities from others didn't keep Arthur from saying this either.<br /> |
:{{plus}} The fact that Arthur, Peter, and Sylar all collect abilities from others didn't keep Arthur from saying this either.<br /> |
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{{plus}} He is now an empath, because he has stolen Peter's abilities, including empathic mimicry. |
{{plus}} He is now an empath, because he has stolen Peter's abilities, including empathic mimicry. However he was not an empath before that point, because he needed to kill Adam to take his power, instead of using empathic mimicry.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The limits, scope, and breadth of [[Arthur]]'s ability are unclear at this time. |
{{minus}} The limits, scope, and breadth of [[Arthur]]'s ability are unclear at this time. He may be able to consciously activate and deactivate powers he has absorbed, such as empathic mimicry and intuitive aptitude. His own ability requires active concentration, but it is unknown if absorbed abilities require active concentration, as well.<br /> |
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|The ''naturally'' powered Petrelli men (Arthur and Peter) are empaths, though each has his own "version" of it. || None. || {{plus}} Perhaps his power is a branch of empathy, as are Peter's and Gabriel's/Sylar's. Peter's is the receptive type, Sylar's intuitive aptitude is the inquisitive type (learns), while his is somewhere in the middle.<br /> |
|The ''naturally'' powered Petrelli men (Arthur and Peter) are empaths, though each has his own "version" of it. || None. || {{plus}} Perhaps his power is a branch of empathy, as are Peter's and Gabriel's/Sylar's. Peter's is the receptive type, Sylar's intuitive aptitude is the inquisitive type (learns), while his is somewhere in the middle.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} His power involves accessing the particular emotions associated with the activation of powers (i.e. the emotion that Peter feels for Claire which allowed him to access her healing ability) and then "draw out" the power by drawing out the actual emotion used to activate it and not the actual power.<br /> |
:{{plus}} His power involves accessing the particular emotions associated with the activation of powers (i.e. the emotion that Peter feels for Claire which allowed him to access her healing ability) and then "draw out" the power by drawing out the actual emotion used to activate it and not the actual power.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} At first, he couldn't control this power and he began to sense all emotions around him and it started driving him insane. |
:{{plus}} At first, he couldn't control this power and he began to sense all emotions around him and it started driving him insane. However, later on, he noticed that he could tap into specific emotions from the people around him and "draw power" from them to control himself.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Later on, he noticed that not only can he draw or absorb emotional strength from evolved people but also their powers. |
:{{plus}} Later on, he noticed that not only can he draw or absorb emotional strength from evolved people but also their powers. And when he accesses the correct emotion from evolved humans, he can draw the very power that they posses by detecting the emotional key of it and from there absorb all the energies associated with that emotion (but not the actual power). He was able to take Peter's power because it's emotional trigger is love. He may have all the powers Peter has acquired so far but he is yet to master which emotion (and memory) triggers which power.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} He was able to take Maya's power since that is triggered by panic and rage.<br /> |
:{{plus}} He was able to take Maya's power since that is triggered by panic and rage.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} And since Arthur, Sylar, and Peter's powers are all branches of empathy, they all have the same "potential" of leaning the powers of other people. |
:{{plus}} And since Arthur, Sylar, and Peter's powers are all branches of empathy, they all have the same "potential" of leaning the powers of other people. This was why Sylar finally learned to "empathize" with Elle and gain her power. But, unlike Peter's, he has to "understand" the emotional key first before he could access it.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The reason why the evolved people from whom Arthur drew powers from are unable to access their powers is because they can no longer "feel" the association between their emotions and their powers. This thus leaves the illusion that they have lost their powers when in fact they only lost the ability to draw out their powers through emotions.<br /> |
:{{plus}} The reason why the evolved people from whom Arthur drew powers from are unable to access their powers is because they can no longer "feel" the association between their emotions and their powers. This thus leaves the illusion that they have lost their powers when in fact they only lost the ability to draw out their powers through emotions.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Some abilities are passive and not actually triggered by emotions or memories (i.e., Peter having amnesia and still somehow being able to use his powers, Claire's ability to heal).<br /> |
::{{minus}} Some abilities are passive and not actually triggered by emotions or memories (i.e., Peter having amnesia and still somehow being able to use his powers, Claire's ability to heal).<br /> |
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::{{plus}} They may seem passive, but each ability is actually triggered by an emotion. |
::{{plus}} They may seem passive, but each ability is actually triggered by an emotion. Peter's abilities during his amnesia are accessed whenever he's distressed/panicked. Claire may not be aware of it, but panic is a trigger of her powers and she may not be aware of it, but her body is still in a "sense of panic" so much so that it triggers the ability without her knowledge.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} What about precognition or space-time manipulation? |
::{{minus}} What about precognition or space-time manipulation? These powers were activated by accident and were not triggered by the same emotions that were used by the Heroes later on (i.e. Hiro was day dreaming when he teleported to New York and yet later on he has to focus to activate that same power; Isaac is often high when he accessed his powers early in the series).<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Specific emotions are tied to specific powers. |
::{{plus}} Specific emotions are tied to specific powers. Perhaps Hiro was calm when he teleported to New York and his latter concentrations grant him this same level of calm in later applications (he cannot just teleport out of panic). Isaac's power may be triggered by euphoria.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Hiro couldn't have been calm when Hope was about to shoot him and Ando and still he accessed it.<br /> |
::{{minus}} Hiro couldn't have been calm when Hope was about to shoot him and Ando and still he accessed it.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} On the contrary, he and Ando were "getting back together" and both have resigned each other to death which brings in calm...<br /> |
::{{plus}} On the contrary, he and Ando were "getting back together" and both have resigned each other to death which brings in calm...<br /> |
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{{plus}} Sometimes powers can run in the family such as [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] and [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]].<br /> |
{{plus}} Sometimes powers can run in the family such as [[Matt]] and [[Maury]] and [[Meredith]] and [[Flint]].<br /> |
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{{note}} It has been indicated that powers are tied to a person's emotions and triggered by a specific emotion. (i.e; Telekinesis is triggered by anger). |
{{note}} It has been indicated that powers are tied to a person's emotions and triggered by a specific emotion. (i.e; Telekinesis is triggered by anger). When the triggered emotion is at the most powerful the person's ability has greater strength. Elle's lightning ability could be triggered by "panic and threat". She created an electrical outburst when she was threatened - Peter manifested this ability in the docks when he was about to be beat by one of the thugs and when he felt Caitlin being threatened. Hiro's space time-manipulation could be triggered by confidence - we can clearly see that when he lacks confidence his powers are weak or they simply do not work at all. Since Hiro believes he is 10 now - a child, usually is over-confident, thus why Hiro has greater control over his ability now when he was an "adult". The ability to phase through matter could be associated with calm - To phase through something is to pass through water which is a calm and soothing substance - Peter manifested this ability when he exhaled a breath in relief and calmness - releasing himself from being tied.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Brian didn't look angry when he displayed his ability, and Sylar is calm most of the times he is seen using Telekinesis.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Brian didn't look angry when he displayed his ability, and Sylar is calm most of the times he is seen using Telekinesis.<br /> |
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::{{note}} The abilities are triggered by a specific emotion - once out the user doesn't have to feel that emotion in order to use it - But the ability would be at it's most powerful if the user feels the triggered emotion. |
::{{note}} The abilities are triggered by a specific emotion - once out the user doesn't have to feel that emotion in order to use it - But the ability would be at it's most powerful if the user feels the triggered emotion. Brian's telekinesis was really weak because he was nervous and feared something was wrong with him. "Powers are tied to emotions". Weak emotions shows weakened abilities - Strong emotions show stronger abilities, but in some cases it can be vice versa.<br /> |
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| Arthur had plans on stopping anyone that could see and try to prevent his version of the future. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur [[Power absorption|stole]] [[Peter]]'s powers, which include [[space-time manipulation]], [[precognition]] and [[precognitive dreaming]].<br /> |
| Arthur had plans on stopping anyone that could see and try to prevent his version of the future. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur [[Power absorption|stole]] [[Peter]]'s powers, which include [[space-time manipulation]], [[precognition]] and [[precognitive dreaming]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Arthur removed Hiro's ability, then threw him off a roof.<br /> |
{{plus}} Arthur removed Hiro's ability, then threw him off a roof.<br /> |
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| [[Arthur Petrelli]] could take powers from others without stealing them. || -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." Angela and Linderman. (Villains) || {{plus}} Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. |
| [[Arthur Petrelli]] could take powers from others without stealing them. || -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." - Angela and Linderman. (Villains) || {{plus}} Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. And this was a pretty rare power.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Telepathy was never mentioned to be a rare power, [[Chandra]] had notes about other evolved humans who had that ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Telepathy was never mentioned to be a rare power, [[Chandra]] had notes about other evolved humans who had that ability.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Arthur wipes Angela's memory, the same way the [[mental manipulation|Haitian's power]] allows it. |
:{{plus}} Arthur wipes Angela's memory, the same way the [[mental manipulation|Haitian's power]] allows it. But Arthur hadn't absorbed Peter at that time, so I assume if he used Haitian's power on Hiro, that's because telepathy could not be used for "wiping memories". That implies he somehow had Haitian's power before.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The writers interviews don't seem to follow that logic, but maybe in order to prevent spoilers.<br /> |
:{{minus}} The writers interviews don't seem to follow that logic, but maybe in order to prevent spoilers.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The effects used in the scene suggested telepathy, and Arthur did use mental manipulation on Hiro, as confirmed in the BTE interview.<br /> |
:{{minus}} The effects used in the scene suggested telepathy, and Arthur did use mental manipulation on Hiro, as confirmed in the BTE interview.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The glow is also similar to that which appears when Arthur [[Power absorption|takes powers away]]. It can also mean that they return now. |
:{{minus}} The glow is also similar to that which appears when Arthur [[Power absorption|takes powers away]]. It can also mean that they return now. |
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:{{minus}} Ishi died from the strain of what she did. She was already dying. She said this was so, and claimed she thought it would happen that night, so having the catalyst doesn't prevent death.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Ishi died from the strain of what she did. She was already dying. She said this was so, and claimed she thought it would happen that night, so having the catalyst doesn't prevent death.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Both Claire and Peter have died by having something lodged into their brain, and both of them came back to life once said object was removed. |
{{plus}} Both Claire and Peter have died by having something lodged into their brain, and both of them came back to life once said object was removed. The same thing could happen to Arthur.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Noah was also shot in the head, but regenerated just by getting an IV with Claire's blood.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Noah was also shot in the head, but regenerated just by getting an IV with Claire's blood.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Perhaps a different area of the brain was damaged.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Perhaps a different area of the brain was damaged.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} Unless the bullet damaged a crucial part of Arthur's brain that somehow prevented him from regenerating.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} Unless the bullet damaged a crucial part of Arthur's brain that somehow prevented him from regenerating.<br /> |
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:::{{minus}} Or unless the Haitian had recovered enough of his strength to keep Arthur from regenerating and that somehow kept Arthur from healing in time.<br /> |
:::{{minus}} Or unless the Haitian had recovered enough of his strength to keep Arthur from regenerating and that somehow kept Arthur from healing in time.<br /> |
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::::{{plus}} Both Claire and Sylar died in the episode ''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]'', but when the eclipse ended and their powers returned, they both came back to life. |
::::{{plus}} Both Claire and Sylar died in the episode ''[[The Eclipse, Part 2]]'', but when the eclipse ended and their powers returned, they both came back to life. You have to assume that if the Haitian was negating Arthur's regeneration, he would eventually be able to heal and come back to life when the Haitian was out of range. <br /> |
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::{{minus}} Upon rewatching that part of the episode ''[[Our Father]]'', it appears as if the bullet just entered his head and didn't go out the back. |
::{{minus}} Upon rewatching that part of the episode ''[[Our Father]]'', it appears as if the bullet just entered his head and didn't go out the back. The blood was flying from the front of his head; the angle is probably confusing us.<br /> |
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{{minus}} The glow seemed to indicate that the catalyst also died, something logical to happen if its host died.<br /> |
{{minus}} The glow seemed to indicate that the catalyst also died, something logical to happen if its host died.<br /> |
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:{{note}} This makes sense since when Arthur told Sylar to capture Claire, he wanted her alive. |
:{{note}} This makes sense since when Arthur told Sylar to capture Claire, he wanted her alive. He must have known that should the host die, the catalyst would die also.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The host and catalyst both dying does not mean that the host (Arthur) can't be brought back to life. |
:{{plus}} The host and catalyst both dying does not mean that the host (Arthur) can't be brought back to life. Arthur can still have died, causing the catalyst to "die". He can then be brought back to life if indeed the bullet (or bullet fragment) is lodged in his brain, and this is removed, allowing him to regenerate.<br /> |
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| Arthur found Molly and took her power. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur can use telephathy to dig into Mohinder's mind and find where she is supposed to be.<br /> |
| Arthur found Molly and took her power. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur can use telephathy to dig into Mohinder's mind and find where she is supposed to be.<br /> |
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{{minus}} He might have taken [[clairvoyance]] from another evolved human between 1977 and now. Remember, as [[Peter]]'s dad, [[Arthur]] has been exposed to more evolved humans, and has also been using and refining his power for a longer period of time than [[Peter]].<br /> |
{{minus}} He might have taken [[clairvoyance]] from another evolved human between 1977 and now. Remember, as [[Peter]]'s dad, [[Arthur]] has been exposed to more evolved humans, and has also been using and refining his power for a longer period of time than [[Peter]].<br /> |
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| Arthur used ''[[9th Wonders!]]'' comics to carry out his plans. || None. || {{plus}} He somehow knew everything that was happening - in Tokyo, where Hiro decided to open his father's safe; in New York, where Sylar and Elle released the villains; even in the past, where Claire was given the catalyst. |
| Arthur used ''[[9th Wonders!]]'' comics to carry out his plans. || None. || {{plus}} He somehow knew everything that was happening - in Tokyo, where Hiro decided to open his father's safe; in New York, where Sylar and Elle released the villains; even in the past, where Claire was given the catalyst. This story was depicted in ''9th Wonders!''.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} [[Yoji Hayata]] told [[Daphne]] to watch the camera feed of Hiro opening the safe.<br /> |
:{{minus}} [[Yoji Hayata]] told [[Daphne]] to watch the camera feed of Hiro opening the safe.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} While it is unknown how [[Maury]] came into contact with Arthur, Maury could have informed him of the Level 5 escape.<br /> |
:{{minus}} While it is unknown how [[Maury]] came into contact with Arthur, Maury could have informed him of the Level 5 escape.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Arthur has [[precognition|drawn the future]] himself.<br /> |
{{minus}} Arthur has [[precognition|drawn the future]] himself.<br /> |
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| [[Arthur]] somehow attained the ability to transfer his consciousness to [[Nathan]]'s body after his death. || It explains why Nathan suddenly turned so evil. || {{plus}} Future Peter does that to present [[Peter]] when he puts him in [[Jesse]]'s body. |
| [[Arthur]] somehow attained the ability to transfer his consciousness to [[Nathan]]'s body after his death. || It explains why Nathan suddenly turned so evil. || {{plus}} Future Peter does that to present [[Peter]] when he puts him in [[Jesse]]'s body. It's possible that since present Peter most likely absorbed all of Future Peter's power, Arthur now has that power.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Nathan has been manipulated before. |
:{{minus}} Nathan has been manipulated before. This time the manipulation may have been more effective, lasting after the manipulators death.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Nathan said himself that the events in [[Haiti]] changed his mind.<br /> |
{{minus}} Nathan said himself that the events in [[Haiti]] changed his mind.<br /> |
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| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability at the end of his life because Arthur stole it. | Arthur has the ability to absorb powers from others. | + Having a character who most likely has an ability die without demonstrating it is unusual for Heroes.
+ This could be how Arthur obtained telepathy.
+ This could be the event that divided the Company. |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of intuitive aptitude. | None. | + He requires some form of physical contact, which maybe the same as Sylar needing to look at a person's brain. - Arthur completely takes away the ability. Sylar did not take away Claire's ability.
- Arthur has not been seen knowing how things work. |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of empathic mimicry. | "You will be what I am" is the English meaning of seventh episode in season three. | + "You will be what I am" may refer to Peter, that he will have such power when he learns to use it so. - Peter doesn't steal abilities; he basically copies them and pastes them into his DNA. Peter's subjects still have their abilities and the process is painless. Arthur has to put his subjects through a painful process of stealing their ability to the point where they don't have it anymore. In this case, Peter's empathic mimicry is more advanced than Arthur's power absorption.
+ Like Matt Parkman has the same power as his father, Peter may have inherited his power from Arthur.
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| Arthur Petrelli's ability was a synthetic one, not a natural one. | None. | + In War Buddies, Arthur had no obvious powers, but it is clear as of Dying of the Light that he does. This means that either A) his power didn't manifest until he got to be pretty old, which seems fairly rare among people with natural abilities, or else B) his ability is synthetic. - Arthur could have already had his ability and not known it, or had manifested his ability after returning from the war.
• If he injected himself, that could have changed his DNA structure enough that by the time Gabriel and Peter were conceived, the gene got passed down to them. Niki's abilities were synthetic, and that at least didn't adversely affect Micah, though we don't know if D.L.'s were natural or not. Claire had one parent with synthetic abilities too.
- Angela specifically says that Arthur was disappointed that Nathan didn't have an ability, despite his lineage, implying that both Angela and Arthur were born as evolved humans. The fact that Arthur had no ability in Vietnam can be explained simply by the fact that he had yet to steal any abilities from another evolved human; much like Peter, he had to realize that he wasn't special alone but need someone else with him to be special.
- The formula that gives people powers was created by the Company, after its formation. Arthur Petrelli was one of the twelve founders of the Company and it has been stated several times that the founders were all individuals with special abilities. They found each other because of their abilities, meaning that for Arthur to have been found and become a founder, he would have had to have an ability before the formula was ever created.
- It is assumed all the Founders found each other and joined together through their powers. This means we assume Arthur had a power before the Company's founding - thus before synthetic powers were created.
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| The playing cards in the Vault are from a game of poker played between Kaito Nakamura and Arthur Petrelli that caused them to join forces. | None. | + Arthur was in SE Asia during the Vietnam war and could have traveled through Japan.
+ The power of probability, which Kaito has in a deleted scene, would be extremely helpful when playing cards. |
| Angela didn't love Arthur. | None. | + She cheated on him with Kaito. + When Angela discovered that he is, in fact, alive, her demeanor was one of surprise and fear, rather than any sort of relief or joy.
- On the contrary, Angela seemed to love Arthur very much. (Villains)
- She refers to him as "the man [she] loved". |
| Arthur Petrelli is Noah Bennet's biological father. | None. | + Noah Bennet's father needed glasses. (Company Man) + Mr. Petrelli needed glasses and apparently wore a horn-rimmed version. (The Kindness of Strangers) |
| Arthur arranged for the unwitting reporter to discover a link between Niki Sanders and Tracy Strauss and use that to blackmail Tracy in order to stress her out and trigger her powers. | None. | + Arthur Petrelli is a master manipulator much like Daniel Linderman. Under Arthur's orders, Maury (as Linderman) has been manipulating events to push Tracy and Nathan together in much the same way that Linderman manipulated Niki and D.L.'s lives in order to produce Micah. |
| Arthur had the ability of aura absorption, the same as Linda Tavara. | None. | + His power is similar to how her ability worked, touching people and taking their abilities. • He might have learned how to only take a person's ability, seeing as how aura absorption usually kills the victim. |
| Arthur Petrelli had "the hunger". | Arthur said, "You don't have your abilities anymore, Peter...because I have them now." : - Arthur (Dying of the Light) "You have the hunger. You're like me, brother..." : - Sylar (to Peter) (I Am Become Death) |
- Chris Zatta says that he doesn't. - Peter did not have the hunger until Gabriel showed him how to use intuitive aptitude.
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| Nathan was born with an ability, but Arthur stole it, either knowingly or by accident. | None. | + Angela said Nathan was born without an ability despite his lineage, yet Angela has been known to misrepresent the truth to control Nathan. + If Arthur unwillingly stole Nathan's powers, that would explain why he spearheaded Pinehearst to create synthetic abilities out of guilt and desire to fix what he did.
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| Arthur could return powers to those from whom he took them. | None. | + He's keeping Peter alive. Without any powers, Peter would be useless to him.
+ Arthur has not made physical contact with Peter since stealing his abilities. Also, he has security guards physically restrain Peter when Peter tries to escape the facility. Perhaps a second touch from one of Arthur's victims reverses the power transfer? |
| Arthur Petrelli's power theft was a synthetic ability and he originally had a much simpler power. | None. | + Angela implies that Arthur had some sort of power prior to Nathan's birth. + Nathan did not inherit the ability to copy powers, but Peter did. Perhaps Arthur did not give himself the ability until after he was satisfied with the results on Nathan. |
| Arthur used a mix of dream manipulation and persuasion to go into Angela's dream and paralyze her. | None. | + It does appear like he used these two abilities - dream manipulation would allow him to go into Angela's dream and persuasion would make Angela do whatever he said and/or implied, thus "You won't even be able to move" would paralyze her. - Maury can easily do this with his power, too.
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| Over time, Arthur will lose his stolen abilities and they will be returned to their owners. | None. | • It is unknown if Arthur's stolen abilities will last forever, maybe if he touches the people he stole the powers from again they will reacquire them.
+ Arthur seemed to hesitate when responding to Peter's query about whether or not his powers were gone forever. He could have lied when he said they were. (Eris Quod Sum)
• Arthur is dead. |
| Arthur planned on giving everyone abilities (as seen in the future) so he could absorb them all. | None. | + It would be the perfect plan for a villain to gain more power: give everyone abilities so he can take them all using his and Peter's powers combined to steal them from a distance.
- Arthur claims that this isn't what he wants.
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| Arthur wasn't an evil villain. | None. | + It'd make for some twist. - Villains are evil by definition.
- He killed Maury only because he went against him. Maury was doing a heroic thing: defending his son.
- Arthur thinks he is better than everyone else.
- Arthur holds the threat of death over Daphne's head.
- Arthur ordered Matt to be killed.
- Arthur seems to hold a strict "if you're not with me, you're against me" policy.
- He stole Peter's powers.
- He calls his own team "the bad guys" and "villains."
- Promos for Dying of the Light and Angels and Monsters stated that Arthur is the leader of the villains.
- Arthur has recruited Knox, who is evil.
- Arthur killed Peter, Nathan, and Tracy in Angela's dream.
- He was fully behind the New York plan, and wouldn't hesitate to kill his own son to protect himself.
- He killed Usutu. |
| Arthur had adopted an "ubermensch" philosophy. | He is seen reading Nietzsche while waiting for Peter to wake up in Eris Quod Sum. | + When Peter tells accuses Arthur of feeling superior to other people (even evolved humans), Arthur simply states that it is a "fact". + He demonstrated an early form of this philosophy in War Buddies. |
| The four villains in Angela's dream were meant to represent Arthur. | None. | - The dream was most likely only a possible future that will no longer come to pass. |
| Arthur's power absorption effects people with artificial powers and genetic powers differently. | None. | + Arthur killed Adam Monroe when he absorbed Monroe's cellular regeneration however, but when he took Maya and Peter's powers they were only shown to experience severe discomfort.
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| Arthur absorbed Maury Parkman's powers before the beginning of the series, and over time Maury regenerated them. | None. | + Maury was one of the company founders, so it stands to reason that he and Arthur came into contact many times prior to the series. So it is very possible that Arthur stole his powers from Maury. • This would mean that stolen powers do regenerate over time, since Maury had his powers in season two.
+ Maury could have regained his powers by using the formula. |
| Arthur stole dream manipulation from Sanjog Iyer. | None. | + Arthur has entered Angela's dream, spoken to her and put her into a coma. He also did a similar thing to Matt Parkman, creating a dream-illusion of Daphne to attack Matt while he was inside Angela's dream.
+ We haven't seen Sanjog in a while, and Pinehearst has been locating and capturing a lot of evolved humans lately.
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| Arthur is or was an empath. | None. | + Peter and Sylar both gain abilities through empathy and have abilities similar to Arthur.
- Arthur said that Nathan was most like him and Nathan is not an empath.
+ He is now an empath, because he has stolen Peter's abilities, including empathic mimicry. However he was not an empath before that point, because he needed to kill Adam to take his power, instead of using empathic mimicry. |
| The naturally powered Petrelli men (Arthur and Peter) are empaths, though each has his own "version" of it. | None. | + Perhaps his power is a branch of empathy, as are Peter's and Gabriel's/Sylar's. Peter's is the receptive type, Sylar's intuitive aptitude is the inquisitive type (learns), while his is somewhere in the middle.
+ Sometimes powers can run in the family such as Matt and Maury and Meredith and Flint.
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| Arthur had plans on stopping anyone that could see and try to prevent his version of the future. | None. | + Arthur stole Peter's powers, which include space-time manipulation, precognition and precognitive dreaming. + Arthur put Angela in a coma. |
| Arthur Petrelli could take powers from others without stealing them. | -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." - Angela and Linderman. (Villains) | + Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. And this was a pretty rare power.
+ This should be true, after Arthur stole empathic mimicry from Peter.
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| Because Arthur has mental manipulation, he can use it to suppress his own abilities, and that's why he doesn't suffer the Hunger of intuitive aptitude. | None. | - It's been stated that Arthur doesn't have the hunger because he has yet to access intuitive aptitude.
- Peter also had mental manipulation, and clearly that didn't help.
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| Arthur will come back to life. | None. | + Arthur's body shines with the catalyst as he lay on the floor dead. It should be kept in mind that it was only when Ishi gave up the catalyst to Hiro that she finally died. Perhaps the catalyst will have similar life-sustaining effects on Arthur.
+ Both Claire and Peter have died by having something lodged into their brain, and both of them came back to life once said object was removed. The same thing could happen to Arthur.
- The glow seemed to indicate that the catalyst also died, something logical to happen if its host died.
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| Arthur found Molly and took her power. | None. | + Arthur can use telephathy to dig into Mohinder's mind and find where she is supposed to be. + Arthur seems to know exactly where people are, such as finding Hiro in Africa and in New York (even in a different time).
- He might have taken clairvoyance from another evolved human between 1977 and now. Remember, as Peter's dad, Arthur has been exposed to more evolved humans, and has also been using and refining his power for a longer period of time than Peter. |
| Arthur used 9th Wonders! comics to carry out his plans. | None. | + He somehow knew everything that was happening - in Tokyo, where Hiro decided to open his father's safe; in New York, where Sylar and Elle released the villains; even in the past, where Claire was given the catalyst. This story was depicted in 9th Wonders!.
- Arthur has drawn the future himself. |
| Arthur somehow attained the ability to transfer his consciousness to Nathan's body after his death. | It explains why Nathan suddenly turned so evil. | + Future Peter does that to present Peter when he puts him in Jesse's body. It's possible that since present Peter most likely absorbed all of Future Peter's power, Arthur now has that power.
- Nathan said himself that the events in Haiti changed his mind. |
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| See Also: 9 • Red • Time travel • Arthur Petrelli | |||||||||