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Irony

The first episode of Volume 5 is Orientation, then juxtaposed by some disorientation with Jump, Push, Fall? Has anyone else noticed this? --Isaac Mendez 15:12, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

I don't get it.--ERROR 07:53, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Did we ever see the title card?

Was there a title card for this episode, or did it simply transition from Orientation? --Radicell 02:37, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• I didn't see one. I'm not sure where the break was, and I'm not sure we'll have a title card for this episode. As for where the break between the two episodes is, I didn't see anything clear. I would say that the commercial break closest to the one hour mark makes sense. That would mean Orientation ends with Sylar holding Matt Jr. Jump, Push, Fall begins with Sylar still holding Matt Jr., but then throws him to Matt Sr. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:41, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
  • If it's so, then we have to change the appearances again. --Janrodrigo 08:46, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
    • Just did. :) --Radicell 08:50, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
      • So, what if on the DVD(or Blue ray), what if there is a title card?! :) ~~IHH—Talk 21:53, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

the student, in the dorm room, with a power

Is it just me or does Gretchen give off that, i pushed her out of the window, so i could get closer to you because i am very secretly helping the carnival get close to you vibe ?? Scorvi12--02:45, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• I totally got the vibe that she had something to do with the death. Don't know about the carnival though. --DarrellG 12:55, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Tracey and Noah

Was it just me or did any1 feel sparks between Noah and Tracey in the Hospital? They are both alone, lost and looking for Redemption.... they understand eachother.
Though that could be just me. Lukas333

• I really hope they will not be romantically involved. Cuz Claire will kill them both. =) AltesUTC CH
  • But two spoons, not yet the same! --Juba 05:44, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
    • Let the war begin--Manwithnoname 15:57, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
      • Only Tralar, only victory! AltesUTC CH
        • Fool! Soon enough the terrible spawn of Noah and Tracy will appear to bring down your Tralar (by the way you could actually use images of past episodes between Nathan and Tracy they were in fact married in an alternate future)--Manwithnoname 12:56, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
          • You sorely underestimate the power of Tracy and Sylar and their evolved offspring with an infinite number of abilities! Tralar rule the world! AltesUTC CH

Timeline issues

So those two graphic novels in which Ando and Kimiko run from the bikers never happenend now, and I find it hard to belive that they could be together for years, and she not know about their(Hiro and Ando) powers. Hopfully they ansewer clearly in a episode or graphic novel if she does.--Ratclaws 09:41, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

End of Orientation, Beginning of Jump, Push, Fall

I'm fairly sure Orientation ended after Tracy found Danko at about 40 mins in, then there was a commercial then a Claire scene, which began Jump, Push, FallTracyStraussFan 15:46, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

I agree, the way I saw it, it ended with Tracy looking at Danko, and then a heavy noise with a black screen, and then it started with the the Claire scene. Have they ever used a heavy noise with a black screen while the episode was still was on? Because that seemed like a finale of the episode to me. --Dman dustin 10:30, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

Extra info?

Is there anything like a BTE out yet? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:13, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Locations

So, what do we add? I suppose Arlington, but also the college and Claire's dorm room? We also need to update Danko's apartment and wherever Noah's living. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:24, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Written by Adam Armus & Kay Foster?

Anyone else saw in the credits the part where Noah is walking and appears the credit "Part Two Written by Adam Armus & Kay Foster" I thought Kring was writing both episodes.MattParkman456 19:43, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• Nope. It was definitely written by Adam Armus and Kay Foster. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:37, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

References to past second episodes?

So, Hiro tries explaining the butterfly effect to Samuel, like Angela did to Future Peter in the second episode of season 3. And Claire uses her powers to test one of her bizarre theories, and gets caught in the act, like in the second episode of season 2. If there was a reference I missed to the second episode of season 1, this would be incredibly strange.--Gibbeynator 22:11, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• Well, the second episode of the first season was the first time that Matt was featured, and showed the first time he discovered his powers; this episode focused on Matt trying to not use his powers. Also, the whole business with the key inside Danko reminded me very much of the key that Mohinder finds. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:42, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
  • Yeah, it feels like there are too many similarities with the beginnings of Sesaon 1. --Janrodrigo 01:13, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

new actors and characters

Mercedes Colon (image)

Arlington detective (image)

Wes Ramsey (image)

Roy (image)

Blair Hickey (image)

New York Federal Bank manager (image)

Rick Worthy (image)

Matt's partner (image)

Daniel Newman (image)

Matt's interrogatee (image)

Mikey Kawata (image)

Hiro Nakamura (image)

Jordon Dang (image)

Ando Masahashi (image)

Satomi Okuno (image)

Kimiko Nakamura (image)

-- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:15, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

Character appearances

If there's "no discernible breaking point" between these two episodes, how do we order the character appearances? -- Tristan0709 talk 02:49, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

• It's defined as the commercial break after we see Sylar holding Matt, Jr. --Radicell 03:04, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
  • Agree. That's the most logical spot to define "Part 1" and "Part 2". It's also right near the one hour mark. Unless we hear something more official about where Tim Kring stopped writing and Adam and Kay began, or where one director stopped and the other began, I think that the commercial break Radicell described is the best breaking point. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:21, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
    • On the NBC and Hulu video streams theres a 1:30 minute break between where Matt sees sylar holding Matt JR like in the trailers. Hulu also describes the bit after as part 2 and the bit before the break as part 1.--Fr0z3nB0nes 11:28, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
    • On air there was also a showing of the viewer rating code, which takes place at the break point in two-hour two-part episodes. --Gadfly 03:28, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

New flame :D

I don't know if anyone has thought about this but I'll say it anyway: Tracy and Noah sitting in a tree.... :D (at least that's what I got from the hospital scene) Meteoritu =D- 20:56, September 23rd 2009

• I definately noticed this too, though I'm not sure if I like the idea... --Skullman1392 21:01, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
  • I don't know if I like it too but it's like, aaah it's weird if they get together because I can't see Noah with anyone other than Sandra... Maybe there'll be a love triangle Oo who knows... Meteoritu =D- 21:58, September 24th 2009
    • Troah needs you--Manwithnoname 16:02, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
      • I noticed it too. I don't want this to happen. It just doesn't seem right. And just like Meteoritu said, I can't see him with anyone else either.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 17:01, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
        • Just think about all other relationships and what they do together. Maya and Mohinder. Tracy and Nathan. Sylar and Elle. Isaac and Simone. Simone and Peter. Sex. I can't even imagine Noah having sex let alone with Tracy! ~~IHH—Talk 17:15, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
          • Dear Lord, the title of this section just put the lamest joke about this relationship in my head. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:17, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
            • They can't get together, because then one of them would either end up dying, or be completely forgotten about and left in a alternate universe.--Ratclaws 17:23, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
              • I will pray to Tim Kring if he manages to put this shipping alive --Manwithnoname 12:59, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

Gregory Zola

Does anyone know who this actor portrays? Anyone at all? SlicinDicinEdgar