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Oh, I am not happy about this. Not at all. And this episode was going so well too.--Falcomadol 21:53, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Which part was that again? Dx Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:02, 8 December 2008 (EST)

The part where Mohindar looked like an evil underling as Arthur exposed the formula to the catalyst. They did some patching at the end, but the super soldiers bit is way too much for this show. Whoever has been writing and producing this show needs to have it taken away from them, for the good of everyone.--Falcomadol 22:04, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Hmm, "whoever has been writing and producing this show"... I believe that would be the writers and producers of Heroes. :P Mike 22:07, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Indeed, and they should all be fired. Or put in front of a firing squad. After this episode, I'm leaning towards the latter. Frankly, I'm starting to feel like an idiot for continuing to watch this season when so many other people have thrown up their hands and given up on the show. I'm wondering if there will even be any lights to turn out when I leave.--Falcomadol 22:31, 8 December 2008 (EST)

I'll turn 'em off, I'll be the last to leave the show. Dracomaster4 22:36, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Nope, I'll be the last. ;) I can't ever imagine not watching Heroes unless it was (knock on wood) canceled, or worse: if Claire or Hiro were killed off. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:38, 8 December 2008 (EST)

I'd stay even if they get killed off, so I'd be the last unless it was the Cancellation Future. Dracomaster4 22:43, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Honestley, i don't think its as bad as everyone thinks it is, i was one (if not the only) of the people that liked season 2, i mean, of course it has changed, but i think thats to be expected. Now i think the writers are kinda getting the Heroes formula back and are trying to revert back to first season, but we'll just have to see. Til then, i'm staying a Die-hard Heroes fan for life!--Anthony Gooch 22:45, 8 December 2008 (EST)

I agree. I actually think season three would be the best season if it didn't have so many mini-story arcs, and if people didn't keep switching alliances so damn often. I'm not so sure what's so bad about it, other than that. And season two was easily the worst season, but it wasn't that bad by itself. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:46, 8 December 2008 (EST)

The thing is that I know I'll keep watching at least until the end of the season, but this is no longer a great show, and it's not even a good show anymore, this is a bad show, and I'm starting to watch it for the pleasure of seeing a trainwreck in action. The dialogue is bad, the characterizations are in no way consistent, the acting is bad, you don't know who's going to get killed this week, but you damn well know who ISN'T going to get killed this week, so there's no suspense. No one left from the first season is in any genuine risk anymore because they're afraid to lose the fans of X or Y character now that they've lost the mainstream. They're going to kill people every week now, but it's all new cannon fodder. The only worthwhile character they created this season was Arthur and he was obscenely overpowered to the point where they had to write him out. There are problems here, I know it, and I'm watching it anyway. Probably the worst sign is creating one-episode characters for the purpose of moving their one-use-only power to Sylar so they can have a 10 second scene. Doh! And if you count Hiro's mother, then we got TWO single serving characters this week. We've had a raftload of them this season. Black-hole-guy, metal-hand-guy, puppet-master-guy, and you can bet that super-soldier-with-no-morals-because-he's-suffering-from-PTSD-guy is going to be next week's single-serving character.--Falcomadol 22:51, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Arthur/Lead Image

What a shame. He was a pretty good villain. I wish he stuck around at least until the volume finale... meh.

Also, my suggestion for the lead image is the bullet hovering in front of Arthur's face. Just my two cents. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:14, 8 December 2008 (EST)

• I, personally, like him laying dead on the carpet, but i think either/or would do the job!--Anthony Gooch 22:24, 8 December 2008 (EST)
  • I dunno, that image seems too spoilery for the purposes of introducing a synopsis. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:44, 8 December 2008 (EST)
    • Agreed, with the bullet image, you kinda know it's stopped, one could think it was Arthur holding it there, but with the carpet painting job picture...that leaves nothing to chance. Dracomaster4 22:46, 8 December 2008 (EST)
    • Point taken, ok, what about the fire burning in Sylar's eyes at the beach?...or should we stick with "fatherly" things, b/c of the title?--Anthony Gooch 22:47, 8 December 2008 (EST)
      • Or maybe a shot of when Noah was staring in silence (almost lovingly) at Claire, at the end of their conversation. Mike 22:53, 8 December 2008 (EST)

OK Go

Oh gosh, here we go again. Sue Landers' ability looks to be a fun one to discuss! :D Her scene with Sylar was so cool, although admittedly at first I wondered why Sarah Palin was on Heroes.--Crazylicious 22:22, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Haha, when I first saw here, that was exactly what I thought - she looked like Sarah Palin. Anyway, I made pages for Sue Landers and her ability. Mike 22:27, 8 December 2008 (EST)

• So i guess it safe to speak for everyone and call her ability Lie detection....unless someone wants to add "super-human-mental-falsehood readings" or "Sue's ability" to the ballott, lol :D--Anthony Gooch 22:30, 8 December 2008 (EST)
  • "super-human-mental-falsehood readings" -- THIS.--Crazylicious 22:32, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Sandra

I just have to say, the makeup artists did a really good job at making Claire;s mom look younger--Cairoi 22:47, 8 December 2008 (EST)

• I thought the same thing! I picked up on that instantly and was like, "Wow! They did an amazing job!" (Admin 22:56, 8 December 2008 (EST))
  • Same here, although, I wonder if they used the same technique as the opening scene of X-men 3. Dracomaster4 23:04, 8 December 2008 (EST)

The time line?

So now that Hiro went back in time and took the catalyst from his mother, what does that say for the events in the time line this season that all involved Claire being the catalyst? Like when Sylar said that Claire was different and special when looking at her brain, and when Hiro's father made the tape telling Hiro to gaurd the formula and that there is someone out there with "the light" in them (the catalyst, Claire). Now that they made it so that Claire isn't the catalyst anymore did all these events even happen, or did the time line kind of loop around those people involved in the events, kind of like what happend with Ando in season one when Hiro went back in time to save Charlie, where Ando still recalled Hiro never knowing knowing Charlie in the past but everyone who worked at the Burnt Toast Diner remembered Hiro form the past? I bet what I said didn't even make any seance to any of you, haha sorry I'm trying to be as clear as possible.--Cairoi 23:03, 8 December 2008 (EST)

• I'm thinking what Claire said will make Noah guard her this time around, and if Kaito found Ishi dead in the chair, he's most definately make a tape telling Hiro to find it, because now he has no idea who has the catalyst. Dracomaster4 23:05, 8 December 2008 (EST)
  • Yeah thats what I'm so confused about, Why would he even bother making a tape if the catalyst is lost, unless he knows someone took it form her and the catalyst is still out there somewhere. --Cairoi 23:09, 8 December 2008 (EST)