Talk:Sullivan Bros. Carnival

Who's Roy

• Who's Roy? --Janrodrigo 09:47, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• Apparently, somebody named Ronald (Carnival) to Roy in the Episode:Jump, Push, Fall page. I was confused at first as well, so I rewatched it and Edgar said "Ronald" and not "Roy". --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 09:53, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• • • Lol... Roy's got nothing to do with the carnival, he's the Parkmans' water deliverer. :) --Radicell 09:59, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
      • Oh yeah! LOL I got so confused!--NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 10:10, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
        • Also, please note that the old guy from the carnival is named Arnold. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:20, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Carnival Sign

I found a picture of the sign should this be used in the box? Here -Yippee ki ya 16:24, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

• I like it! -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 19:13, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
  • I agree, I like it too. I re-uploaded the image to standard size. Maybe others will agree on the picture as well.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 19:19, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
    • Added -Yippee ki ya 14:26, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

Jennie, Gail, Chris, Callum, Sabine and her baby

Rachel Mills sees them all at a carnival at the end of chapter 5 of faction zero. It is a 99.9% chance that it is this one, so can we add them, or do we have to wait for official conformation that they are the same carnival?--Ratclaws 19:04, 25 September 2009 (EDT)

• Check out this page of Faction Zero. The photo that was added is of the Sullivan Bros. Carnival, I think. That's good enough for me! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:17, 25 September 2009 (EDT)
  • Huh, I didn't read chapter 6 of faction zero cause I thought there was nothing new. I just checked that out though, and they added a new little thing with the firebreathers noticing Rachel. I will add that to their pages now.--Ratclaws 23:27, 25 September 2009 (EDT)

Similarities In Shows

I was looking for images of the carnival and the carnies, and found something interesting. If anyone has heard of the Nickelodeon cartoon, "Danny Phantom" (teenage ghost who fights other ghosts), there was apparently an episode with a carnival, and its carnies were ghosts (super powered carnies). There was one ghost, a lady with tattoos with a red cloak (sound familiar?). They don't have the same powers and all and have a lot of differences, but I just thought this was a weird coincidence in my search.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 23:19, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

• That is cool! My little brother used to watch that show all the time! ~~IHH—Talk 07:01, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
  • Most creepy circuses in fiction have a tattooed lady named Lydia. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:13, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

The Company

Any ideas how the carnival managed to hide from the Company so many years? Because it has a lot of dangerous EHs to bag and tag, or maybe even lock them up. AltesUTC CH

• Probably the same way they hid from the police chasing Sylar in the last episode, there's allot of people there with abilities who knows what they are all capable of. -- Jenx222 · U · T · C 11:26, 14 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Yes, and the Company had a lot of powerful EHs too. Maybe Joseph was hiding the carnival? AltesUTC CH
    • Could have done, that may be why they are out in the open now, because Joseph is no longer around to protect and hide the carnival, who knows what sort of ability he could have had, maybe more than one? -- Jenx222 · U · T · C 11:38, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Any ideas on how it moves around?

Originally, I'd assumed that someone in the carnival was simply using Illusion to hide it (for example, from the police in Hysterical Blindness). Yet in Strange Attractors Samuel and Tracy are actually brought to the carnival itself from elsewhere, because we see Sylar in the background. Space-Time Manipulation might be the most plausible to answer to how this occurs, but we know Arnold is old and dying. I doubt very much he'd be able to move that much matter around repeatedly as has been shown to occur, especially as in Orientation Samuel claims it will be the last time he asks the old man to use his ability. Since Samuel's obviously been teleporting since then, and we know there isn't another teleporter in the carnivel (otherwise Samuel would not need Hiro as a replacement, right?) it can't be Arnold. Anyone have any other theories? Swm 12:05, 28 October 2009 (EDT)

• Maybe there's a "magic" item like the compass. Kimera757 19:45, 30 October 2009 (EDT)
  • Synch on 9th Wonders posted a theory there I like... that the Carnival doesn't actually move around that much, but rather that there is a network of portals/wormholes to and from the Carnival that can be found using one of the compasses. It would explain why Samuel and Tracy did the spinning effect when they went to the Carnival. However, it's just a theory.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:31, 30 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Maybe Stephen Canfield is alive then, and has learned to control the destination of his wormholes!!! --mc_hammark 06:37, 31 October 2009 (EDT)

Theories

How about making one theory page for the carnival and put there all theories about Damien, Mrs. Comey, Teddy etc. instead of just having many theory pages with one or two theories? AltesUTC CH

A note

I somehow was tricked into watching The Notebook the other day, and about 5 or so minutes in, there is a poster in the background advertisind a "Sullivan Brother's Carnival." Perhaps some carnie has the ability to transport the carnival between realms of exsistence? Haha jk. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 16:04, 30 October 2009 (EDT)

Twitter

Oliver Grigsby recently pointed out that the Carnival has a twitter account. Should it be mentioned in the page?

• Yes. But Twitter should be capitalized. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:15, 8 November 2009 (EST)

Possible Idea for Arnold's Carnival Job:)

I've been thinking a lot about the carnival and the people who live there. Each of them have jobs that go with their abilities.

• Lydia can feel the desires of others and she is the tattoo girl
• Edgar is super fast and is the knife thrower
• Josh and Evan Davis can use Evan's danger sensing to keep from failing their juggling routine
• Bo LoFontaine is a magnetist who plays all of the carnival's instruments
• Both Aviv and Sylar have used their telekinesis to manage the rides
• Chris, Gail and Jennie are the fire breathing people

And I'm pretty sure that Mrs. Comey would be the carnival's cook! Now I have been thinking long and hard about Arnold and what his job could be and I think I have found the answer.... THE MAGICIAN! Like Hiro did in Tabula Rasa, Arnold can use his power to do "magic". Any thinkers?

• Maybe's Arnold's job was to fix things if an act goes bad. Like if Edgar tosses a knife, misses, and hits Lydia in the head, Arnold goes back in time to stop that from happening.--Gibbeynator 13:43, 22 January 2010 (EST)

The Watcher and Amanda

I think that The Watcher needs to be moved to the visitors category because several times in the recent iStory people said he did not work there. And Amanda needs to be moved to the employees section. She has been compleatly brought into the "family", and Gail offered to Lydia to have Amanda join her family's act. Of course, this could all change next week for Amanda, but the Watcher for sure needs to be moved.--Ratclaws 17:58, 24 November 2009 (EST)

Acts

I know that we have a gallery at the bottom of the page showing a few of the attractions, but can we have a section of the page listing them all, since there are more than are just in the gallery. --mc_hammark 12:10, 2 December 2009 (EST)

• I think that would be interesting and adds more depth. Plus we could explain how each evolve human uses their ability for the act. --OutbackZack 12:12, 2 December 2009 (EST)
  • I'll wait until a few more people agree and then I'll add it in. --mc_hammark 12:13, 2 December 2009 (EST)
    • Agreed. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:43, 2 December 2009 (EST)

Charlie

Can we assume Arnold brought her to the carnival before trapping her somewhere? Since Hiro found her name tag there... AltesUTC CH 07:32, 9 January 2010 (EST)

• I'm not positive, but I think there may have been a flashback scene that showed Arnold and Charlie at the Carnival.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:45, 22 January 2010 (EST)
  • Didn't Hiro find Charlie's name tag at the carnival? Doesn't that sort of prove that Arnold brought her there before sending her into the timestream?--Gibbeynator 19:24, 22 January 2010 (EST)
    • No, all that proves is that the tag was at the carnival. This is one of the situations where I like to bring in a little story to help:

Three men from England were travelling from England into Scotland for the very first time. They were travelling on a train. After they crossed the border, they passed a cow. The first man said, "By gosh, the cows in Scotland are brown!" The second man says "Wrong, there is at least one cow in scotland which is brown." Then the third man says "You are both wrong, there is at least one cow in scotland of which half is brown."

Actually, come to thing of it, that's probably just complicated things... but the point is, we can't say she's been at the carnival... Arnold could have just as easily taken her badge off her and taken it to the carnival. --mc_hammark 19:32, 22 January 2010 (EST)

The Greatest Show Unearthed

Am I the only one who thinks of this song when they think of the Carnival?--Gibbeynator 13:44, 22 January 2010 (EST)

• Nope :) Every time I think of the Carnival, this song starts playing in my head :D --Leckie -- Talk 13:40, 22 January 2010 (EST)
  • Could you imagine Samuel terraforming the world while listening to this song?--Gibbeynator 19:31, 22 January 2010 (EST)