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::{{plus}}Adam Monroe's power was rapid cellular regeneration, the regeneration was so fast and efficiant the cells regenerated at the same rate as aging destroyed them, there was no build up of 400 years of aging that was suspended over him because his cells were dealling with the aging as it happened, if having his powers removed would kill him wouldn't the Hatian accidently do it like as soon as they met? <br> |
::{{plus}}Adam Monroe's power was rapid cellular regeneration, the regeneration was so fast and efficiant the cells regenerated at the same rate as aging destroyed them, there was no build up of 400 years of aging that was suspended over him because his cells were dealling with the aging as it happened, if having his powers removed would kill him wouldn't the Hatian accidently do it like as soon as they met? <br> |
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:::{{note}} Logically you are completely correct, but this is a fictional television show with writers that are human and make mistakes. It is impossible to determine what they were thinking. <br /> |
:::{{note}} Logically you are completely correct, but this is a fictional television show with writers that are human and make mistakes. It is impossible to determine what they were thinking. <br /> |
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:::{{note}} Yes, it would seem that instead of aging quickly, when Adam lost his regeneration ability, he would have just ceased staying the same age, and begun aging at the normal rate of any other normal person.<br/> |
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:{{plus}} Adam Monroe first showed signs of his power hundreds of years ago long before an artificial formula was created, Peter is a son of Arthur it is known that Arthur used the formula on Peter's older brother Nathan, Maya could have been artificially given powers when she was younger with Alejandro their past has as of yet not been shown in flashbacks.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Adam Monroe first showed signs of his power hundreds of years ago long before an artificial formula was created, Peter is a son of Arthur it is known that Arthur used the formula on Peter's older brother Nathan, Maya could have been artificially given powers when she was younger with Alejandro their past has as of yet not been shown in flashbacks.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Nothing hints at Maya and Peter's abilities being synthetic.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Nothing hints at Maya and Peter's abilities being synthetic.<br /> |
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The following fan theories are about Arthur Petrelli.
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| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability at the end of his life because Arthur stole it. | Arthur has the ability to absorb powers from others. | + Having a character who most likely has an ability die without demonstrating it is unusual for Heroes.
• Before Arthur took Peter's power of empathic mimicry and killed Maury, he used telepathy to communicate with Adam.
- It has been revealed that in an unaired portion of an episode Kaito reveals his evolved ability to Ando and the ability has to do with predicting probabilities. Therefore, Arthur must have gotten his telepathy from another source.
- When asked if Kaito's powers would ever be revealed, the writers replied "examine his death scene". Kaito's last words were "of all of them, I never expected it would be you."
+ This could be the event that divided the Company. |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of intuitive aptitude. | None. | + Arthur is the father of Sylar, who has intuitive aptitude. + He requires some form of physical contact, which maybe the same as Sylar needing to look at a person's brain. - Arthur completely takes away the ability, while Sylar just sees how it works, and copies it, as he did with Claire. • Sylar only didn't completely take Claire's ability because she is 'special'. Every other victim of Sylar has had their powers taken (shown by the fact that their brains are completely missing...). |
| People who lose their abilities to Arthur can regain them through use of the Formula. | None. | • According to Mohinder, a person's DNA determines what their innate ability is.
• If Mohinder did inject Peter with the formula, then Peter would have his own ability back and copy his old ones from Arthur; including Arthur's own ability. Maybe that's how Arthur is defeated. I doubt Peter would kill his father, and Sylar seems to go 180 on us :) |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of empathic mimicry. | "You will be what I am" is the English meaning of Episode Seven. | + "You will be what I am" may refer to Peter, that he will have such power when he learns to use it so. - Peter doesn't steal abilities; he basically copies them and pastes them into his DNA. Peter's subjects still have their abilities and the process is painless. Arthur has to put his subjects through a painful process of stealing their ability to the point where they don't have it anymore. In this case, Peter's empathic mimicry is more advanced than Arthur's power absorption.
+ Like Matt Parkman has the same power as his father, Peter may have inherited his power from Arthur.
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| Arthur Petrelli's ability is a synthetic one, not a natural one. | None. | + In War Buddies, Arthur had no obvious powers, but it is clear as of Dying of the Light that he does. This means that either A) his power didn't manifest until he got to be pretty old, which seems fairly rare among people with natural abilities, or else B) his ability is synthetic. - Arthur could have already had his ability and not known it, or had manifested his ability after returning from the war.
• If he injected himself, that could have changed his DNA structure enough that by the time Gabriel and Peter were conceived, the gene got passed down to them. Niki's abilities were synthetic, and that at least didn't adversely affect Micah, though we don't know if D.L.'s were natural or not. Claire had one parent with synthetic abilities too.
- Angela specifically says that Arthur was disappointed that Nathan didn't have an ability, DESPITE HIS LINEAGE, implying that both Angela and Arthur were born as evolved humans. The fact that Arthur had no ability in Vietnam can be explained simply by the fact that he had yet to steal any abilities from another evolved human; much like Peter, he had to realize that he wasn't special alone but need someone else with him to be special.
- The formula that gives people powers was created by the Company, after its formation. Arthur Petrelli was one of the twelve founders of the Company and it has been stated SEVERAL times that the founders were all individuals with special abilities. They found each other because of their abilities, meaning that for Arthur to have been found and become a founder, he would have had to have an ability before the formula was ever created.
- It is assumed all the Founders found each other and joined together through their powers. This means we assume Arthur had a power before the Company's founding - thus before synthetic powers were created.
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| The playing cards in the Vault are from a game of poker played between Kaito Nakamura and Arthur Petrelli that caused them to join forces. | None. | + Arthur was in SE Asia during the Vietnam war and could have traveled through Japan. - That is pure speculation based on nothing. South-East Asia and Japan are two very geographically different places and there is also no reason for a man in the US military to have met a Japanese businessman. |
| Angela didn't love Arthur. | None. | + She cheated on him with Kaito. + When Angela discovered that he is, in fact, alive, her demeanor was one of surprise and fear, rather than any sort of relief or joy.
- On the contrary, Angela seemed to love Arthur very much. (Villains)
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| Arthur Petrelli is Noah Bennet's biological father. | Noah Bennet's father needed glasses. (Company Man) Mr. Petrelli needed glasses and apparently wore a horn-rimmed version. (The Kindness of Strangers) |
+ All of Mr. Petrelli's sons (if you include Noah) are named after prominent Biblical characters. - A lot of Anglo Saxon Names appear in the bible, including Matthew, Thomas, Gabriel, and Daniel aka D.L. |
| Arthur Petrelli is the true villain of Heroes. | According to War Buddies, "Dallas" has an extremely utilitarian philosophy, torturing a native for several hours to find the lost Skyhawk, and then destroying an entire village along with killing a young girl to win the war. Many of the antagonists related to the Company appear to use the same modus operandi: Linderman wanted to unite the world by killing .07% of its population. |
+ In Truth & Consequences, Victoria tells Peter, "Adam's a murderer, and since you're helping him, you're one too... Just like your parents." |
| Arthur has the ability to control evolved humans but not humans. | None. | + A young and innocent Linderman assists in the secret beating interrogation in Vietnam; the human had to be beaten to give up the info. + Controlling the powers of the original Company (Bob's alchemy, Linderman's healing, Angela Petrelli's precognitive dreaming, and so on) makes him the most powerful man on the planet, with unlimited resources. Controlling from behind the scenes is his preference, like calling himself Dallas. He likes to be hidden. + He pushed for research into synthetic evolved humans, because he can't control humans. He was also disappointed with Nathan for not being born with abilities; he gave him artificial abilities so that he could someday control the President of the United States.
+ With the help of Maury Parkman, he could have faked his own death. If human influence in the Company led to a assassination attempt coup d'état style, what better way to lay low than with the help of someone who can manipulate humans and evolved humans, and make everyone think he is dead?
+ In both possible futures, Hiro is a sought after "terrorist". However, he is to be captured, not killed like Peter. With a time controller, Arthur could correct his past mistakes and take over much sooner and easier, as well as avoid being put on life support.
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| Arthur arranged for the unwitting reporter to discover a link between Niki Sanders and Tracy Strauss and use that to blackmail Tracy in order to stress her out and trigger her powers. | None. | + Arthur Petrelli is a master manipulator much like Daniel Linderman. Under Arthur's orders, Maury (as Linderman) has been manipulating events to push Tracy and Nathan together in much the same way that Linderman manipulated Niki and D.L.'s lives in order to produce Micah. |
| Arthur has the ability of aura absorption, the same as Linda Tavara. | None. | + His power is similar to how her ability worked, touching people and taking their abilities.
• He might have learned how to only take a person's ability, seeing as how aura absorption usually kills the victim. - If Arthur wanted to get super powerful, then the logical option is to get a power that gets more powers. Like making a wish to have 1000 wishes. Making a Formula to give that specific power is not the case since its imperfect. It's too much of a coincidence that Arthur has this power naturally. Perhaps another evolved human with power transfer took power theft from another evolved human? |
| Arthur Petrelli now has "the hunger". | Arthur said, "You don't have your abilities anymore, Peter...because I have them now." : - Arthur (Dying of the Light) "You have the hunger. You're like me, brother..." : - Sylar (to Peter) (I Am Become Death) |
- Chris Zatta says that he doesn't. - Peter did not have the hunger until Gabriel showed him how to use intuitive aptitude. |
| The only way for Peter to regain his powers is if Sylar removes Arthur's brain and shows Peter how to take the ability. | None. | + Sylar's ability allows him to see how things work, but has never been specifically stated to let him take abilities. Therefore, it is possible that with knowledge attainable only by a person with intuitive aptitude, an ordinary human being can take an evolved human's abilities. + From a story standpoint, it would be fitting for Sylar to give in to the hunger he has been fighting for most of the third season, but then use it to help others. - If Sylar helped Peter in this manner, it could mean Sylar would again be consumed by his hunger, effectively sacrificing his new self for his brother's sake. Sylar is unlikely to take action that would not necessarily be for the greater good; and although he might care for his brother, he doesn't appear to trust him at this point. - Peter is powerless at the moment, so even if Sylar "showed him" Arthur's brain, Peter would have no idea what to do with it, as he no longer possesses intuitive aptitude. Sylar would actually have to open up Peter's skull as well, to modify it "manually." But since Peter no longer possesses rapid cell regeneration, this process would likely kill him. + Sylar does not open his own skull to "add" an ability and he began gathering abilities for himself without having rapid cell regeneration. Thus, he could be able to copy his own or other people's abilities to other humans like his brother without killing them. |
| Nathan was born with an ability, but Arthur stole it, either knowingly or by accident. | None. | + Angela said Nathan was born without an ability despite his lineage, yet Angela has been known to misrepresent the truth to control Nathan. + If Arthur unwillingly stole Nathan's powers, that would explain why he spearheaded Pinehearst to create synthetic abilities out of guilt and desire to fix what he did.
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| Arthur seeks to absorb/drain the abilities of every evolved human. | None. | + He has absorbed Adam's ability when he could have just used his blood and used him as an asset.
+ He knew Peter had a lot of powers and likely wanted them all for himself. Although he wouldn't necessarily need a duplication power like empathic mimicry or a second copy of rapid cell regeneration, he may not have been able to choose to only take some abilities from Peter and not others. |
| Arthur can return powers to those whom he took them from. | None. | + He's keeping Peter alive. Without any powers, Peter would be useless to him. - Peter is Arthur's son so he may not want to dispose of Peter just because he no longer has any powers. - If Arthur could return those powers, he would not have had Mohinder inject him in the new version of the formula. + Arthur has not made physical contact with Peter since stealing his abilities. Also, he has security guards physically restrain Peter when Peter tries to escape the facility. Perhaps a second touch from one of Arthur's victims reverses the power transfer? |
| Arthur's powers will return to their original owners once he dies. | None. | + This could be a way to restore Peter's and other people's abilities. :- It may be more desirable for Peter to remain powerless so he can learn to use his mind again, and not just his abilities. :+ Peter may need his abilities again to prevent the future he saw from coming to pass. |
| Arthur will be killed by Angela and Company with the aid of the Haitian. | None. | + The Haitian is really the only one that can stop Arthur as he seems he'd be the most experienced with abilities and cannot be touched, literally and in context because of his power blocking. - Arthur may have access to the Haitian's ability thanks to Peter's encounter with the Haitian in the exposed future. If so, Arthur may be immune to the Haitian's power blocking. + It seemed to have almost succeeded in Villains, reducing him to recover in hiding at Pinehearst. |
| Arthur Petrelli's power theft is a synthetic ability and he originally had a much simpler power. | None. | + Angela implies that Arthur had some sort of power prior to Nathan's birth. + Nathan did not inherit the ability to copy powers, but Peter did. Perhaps Arthur did not give himself the ability until after he was satisfied with the results on Nathan. - Without other supers nearby, it's likely Arthur had no reason to believe he was different. - According to Mohinder, a person with one power cannot use the formula to gain another power. The formula takes the current genetic structure of the person and unlocks and manifests the powers hidden in that genetic code. A person can only have one power, unless their power is to gain other powers (such as Arthur, Sylar, and Peter). He could not have had one ability and then gained a synthetic ability. + The limitation is something Mohinder talks about in regards to his own formula, not the Company's. The Company may have found away around that and become capable of replicating other people's individual abilities. And if the Company had gained access to any of Linda Tavara's genetic material, it could be that Arthur obtained her ability synthetically. |
| Arthur used a mix of dream manipulation and persuasion to go into Angela's dream and paralyze her. | None. | + It does appear like he used these two abilities - dream manipulation would allow him to go into Angela's dream and persuasion would make Angela do whatever he said and/or implied, thus "You won't even be able to move" would paralyze her. - Maury can easily do this with his power, too. |
| Over time, Arthur will lose his stolen abilities and they will be returned to their owners. | None. | • It is unknown if Arthur's stolen abilities will last forever, maybe if he touches the people he stole the powers from again they will reacquire them.
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| Arthur was lying to Sylar about Angela's attempt to drown him. | None. | + Faking one's own death speaks poorly for one's trustworthiness. + Future Peter said that the creation of the formula led to the exposed future. Arthur told (present) Peter that he wants to prevent the exposed future. So why is Arthur doing the very thing (creating the formula) that helped bring said future about?
• It is possible Angela did have a dream showing what Sylar would become, but she gave him up for adoption rather than drown him. |
| Arthur plans on giving everyone abilities (as seen in the future) so he can absorb them all. | None. | + It would be the perfect plan for a villain to gain more power: give everyone abilities so he can take them all using his and Peter's powers combined to steal them from a distance.
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| Arthur isn't an evil villain. | None. | + It'd make for some twist. - Villains are evil by definition.
- He killed Maury only because he went against him. Maury was doing a heroic thing: defending his son.
- Arthur thinks he is better than everyone else.
- Arthur holds the threat of death over Daphne's head.
- Arthur ordered Matt to be killed.
- Arthur seems to hold a strict "if you're not with me, you're against me" policy.
- He stole Peter's powers.
- He calls his own team "the bad guys" and "villains."
- Promos for Dying of the Light and Angels and Monsters stated that Arthur is the leader of the villains.
- Arthur has recruited Knox, who is evil.
- Arthur killed Peter, Nathan, and Tracy in Angela's dream.
- He was fully behind the New York plan, and wouldn't hesitate to kill his own son to protect himself.
- He killed Usutu. |
| Arthur has adopted an "ubermensch" philosophy. |
He is seen reading Nietzsche while waiting for Peter to wake up in Eris Quod Sum. |
+ When Peter tells accuses Arthur of feeling superior to other people (even evolved humans), Arthur simply states that it is a "fact". |
| The four villains in Angela's dream were meant to represent Arthur. | None. | + Arthur has already killed two of the villains, Adam and Maury, and has both of their powers. If he kills Knox and either Tracy or Barbara at some point, he will, in a sense, represent all four villains. - The dream was only a possible future and will likely no longer come to pass, due to Peter changing the past.
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| Athur's power absorption effects people with artificial powers and genetic powers differently. | None. | + Arthur killed Adam Monroe when he absorbed Monroe's cellular regeneration however, but when he took Maya and Peter's powers they were only shown to experience severe discomfort.
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| Arthur absorbed Maury Parkman's powers before the beginning of the series, and over time Maury regenerated them. | None. | + Maury was one of the company founders, so it stands to reason that he and Arthur came into contact many times prior to the series. So it is very possible that Arthur stole his powers from Maury. • This would mean that stolen powers do regenerate over time, since Maury had his powers in season two.
+ Maury could have regained his powers by using the formula. |
| Arthur has mental manipulation. | None. | + He was able to erase Angela's memories.
+ It is unlikely that the Haitian would do that to Angela as he is clearly more loyal to her than to Arthur.
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| Arthur has stolen dream manipulation from Sanjog Iyer. | None. | + Arthur has entered Angela's dream, spoken to her and put her into a coma. He also did a similar thing to Matt Parkman, creating a dream-illusion of Daphne to attack Matt while he was inside Angela's dream. + Neither Matt nor Maury have been seen to be capable of using their telepathy at such great a distance (Arthur was in New Jersey, while Angela was in Odessa, Texas), suggesting that Arthur was not using telepathy during these circumstances. |
| Arthur is or was an empath. | None | + Peter and Sylar are both empaths and have abilities similar to Arthur.
- Arthur said that Nathan was most like him and Nathan is not an empath. |
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