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Fan Theories

  • Concerning the fan theory that Matt's in a different time than the rest of them, I'd suggest removing this entirely as there's plenty of proof they're in the same time. For instance Audrey tells Matt that Homeland Security is coming for Ted and DHS has only been around for like 5 years. The theories that he's in a different time period are based on speculation that Molly might actually be Claire or something. Perhaps we need to tighten up the requirements for "Fan Theories" before, for example, every character's article includes speculation that that character is in fact really Sylar. (Admin 20:17, 18 November 2006 (EST))
    • A lot of people are claiming that he's six months in the past. Still dumb, but less so than Molly=Claire. The one thing I've never understood about this "theory": what would the point be? If he were in the past, why not just label it "six months ago" or whatever like they did with Mohinder at the beginning of Genesis? If he were in the past, when it came time to reveal it it would be just lame and confusing, not sneaky and clever. It's not the same as, say, a nuclear explosion or Peter falling to his seeming death. Oh well. At least there are only a couple episodes of life left in this one.--Hardvice (talk) 21:52, 18 November 2006 (EST)

Seven Minutes to Midnight

This summary probably needs to be slimmed down a bit. Just noting for future reference, but if anyone else wants to take a crack at it, feel free.--Hardvice (talk) 00:41, 1 December 2006 (EST)

  • I was thinking the same thing. Section: prepare to meet your match. ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 00:43, 1 December 2006 (EST)
    • That was too easy. ---- Ohmyn0.jpgOhmyn0talk.jpg 00:49, 1 December 2006 (EST)

Six Months Ago

Matt revealed in this episode that he suffers from dyslexia. Consequently, he can't read the detective's exam properly and has repeatedly failed it. --Ted C 10:19, 1 December 2006 (EST)

Spoiler for How to Stop an Exploding Man

If someone edits this later for this episode, please do not write that Sylar kills Parkman. We don't know this. He didn't leave in a body bag. OUChevelleSS 23:00, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

interesting tidbit

with the exception of the Graphic Novels, - Which we I do not know if we are considering prophetic paintings other than the ones Hiro uses --- Matt is never portrayed in any prophetic image including ones Painted by Sylar, Issac, and Peter --- Also as far as the promotional artwork at the beginning of the show, Simone, Nathan, Hiro, Peter, Claire, Niki, and Uluru were portrayed, but not Issac or Matt. Hmmm anyone know why this is?

  • I am going to put this in a trivia section for Matt (poor matt, i love him)Guy 19:46, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Jewish?

I just read an interview with Greg Grunberg saying that Matt is Jewish. I know interviews aren't canon, but I'm willing to put that in the article if there's any more evidence for it. Any indication of Matt's religion? --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 15:55, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

  • I think it's fine to put a note that says Greg Grunberg insinuates that Matt Parkman is Jewish. Many Jews are named Parkman, after all. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
  • In the "Five Years Gone" Episode, Noah Bennet says, "She's getting married...", referring to Claire, and Parkman replies, "Mazel Tov... I think." -- EricN8886 02:45, 04 Dec 2007 (EDT)
    • Using Yiddish phrases doesn't mean you're Jewish. I say Mazel Tov to my friends/myself all the time, but I'm not Jewish. --Yamawhata? 19:21, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Molly as Child?

Should Molly Walker be added under "Child" as his adopted daughter? Claire is placed under Noah Bennet's profile, after all, and -- from the evidence exhibited in the recent episode -- Matt and/or Mohinder (more likely Matt, given his status as a legal U.S. resident) adopted Molly.

Thoughts?

  • If he did indeed legally adopt her, sure. I believe Matt is just her guardian, though. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:22, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
  • I would probably just put him as her "Legal Guardian".
    • I'd have to review the episode, but are we even sure he's a legal guardian? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:33, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
      • He enrolled her in school and the NYPD undoubtedly knows of her, so it's a safe bet that he adopted her. After the events of How to Stop an Exploding Man, it's likely she was placed in his care. If he didn't flat-out adopted, then he's at least been given legal guardianship. -- Paronine 19:35, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
      • You said it exactly. It's a "bet" which means it's speculative. :) We can't say he's her legal guardian, but we can say he's her guardian. Similarly, I'm not sure "adoption" requires that it's legal. If not then we could say she's his adopted daughter similarly to Noah as long as we avoid the word "legal." (Admin 19:56, 28 September 2007 (EDT))

Maury Parkman?

I noticed that the mobile game mentions that a guy named Maury Parkman is one of the founders of the company. I assume that Maury is Matt's father.

  • According to spoilers, we'll be meeting Matt's father soon, so I'd say that's a pretty good assumption.--Hardvice (talk) 12:20, 14 October 2007 (EDT)


Expandng Powers

Matt was able to talk into Nathan's dream to wake him up. Could this be a sign that Matt's powers are advancing? --Toshibi (talk) 9:20, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

  • Yeah, Greg Grunberg said in an interview that his power becomes much more interesting this volume. This also means that everyone elses power has the potential to become more interesting, for example Claire being able to heal people, just an example though. --SomeoneImportant 14:41, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
    • If that were true, then Linderman might be a rapid-cell regenerator, since he was able to heal people... just a thought. Dean Harper 23:42, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
      • He might have been, you mean. This would also support the Kensai is Linderman theory that I see everwhere. --SomeoneImportant 17:48, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

Mind Manipulation

I'm asking myself if we should change or at least add, that Parkman is able to manipulate others minds. In my opinion Telepathy doesn't include trapping others in their fears or call fourth their greatest longings. Wikipedia discribes it as:

"...a term used to describe the transfer of information on thoughts or feelings between individuals by means other than the five classical senses [...] A person who is able to make use of telepathy is said to be able to read the minds of others."

With telepathy you should only be able to know the fears of others. There's no word about being able to terrify other people because you can controle their fears in order to render them incapacitated. So far the given definition of telepathy on this site is somehow wrong. Sure, you can transmit your own feelings and thought's to them, but that would mean if you want to scare them you need to be scared to. Telepathy solely wouldn't do the job. BloodyFox, 23:44, 12. Nov 2007 (CEST)

  • Yeah, I think it should definitely be changed, Telepathy doesn't cover his power at all any more. To what is the question. Mental manipulation is the Haitan's power, however, following some interviews apparently Candice and Matt had the same powers, just manifested and used differently. Maybe the Haitan can be lumped in with this group. Anyway im looking forward to the power-name pitching, arguing, voting etc. --SomeoneImportant 18:45, 12 November 2007 (EST)
    • This has been discussed in the past actually... interestingly enough, the original argument was that Matt's power wasn't telepathy because people claimed that telepathy involved a two way exchange. Telepathy can be one-way or two-ways. Matt's power absolutely is telepathy, the fact that he's now able to project as well as receive is just a distinction that needs to be made on the power article which is already there. (Admin 18:50, 12 November 2007 (EST))
    • Also, telepathy is one of the names we're somewhat stuck with because it's been used in canon & secondary sources, notably Matt's Primatech file.--Hardvice (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2007 (EST)
  • Telepathy covers all bases of mind control and manipulation. Such as Charles Xavier, who was simply a very powerful Telepath (Psychopath), it would just depend on the level of control and power behind the ability. Its not that Matt isnt a Telepath, its that the definition in this site, is at the moment lacking in its full detail, i would say.--Hart 00:50, 18 December 2008 (EST)

Redirect?

Should Matt still redirect here now that there's Matt Neuenberg? --Yamawhata? 19:20, 22 January 2008 (EST)

  • Yes. Right now, there are 540 links to Matt. Every one of them is about Matt Parkman, not Matt Neuenberg. At the bottom of Matt Parkman's page, though, is a link to Matt (disambig), which should list every Matt there is related to Heroes (including Future Matt and Janice's son Matt, both of whom probably still have more links than Matt Neuenberg). Good question, though. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:03, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Extent of Matt's powers

Bob claims that anything the mind controls, Matt controls. Does that mean he has the ability to disrupt organ function (killing a person almost immediately)? More interestingly, can Matt control the Fight of Flight response mechanism, where the brain sends a signal to the adrenal glands, thereby preventing someone from accessing their power (or even forcing them to use it by triggering it)? Obviously, the show hasn't explored any of this yet(or even fully explained how the powers are accessed), but if Bob was correct and speaking literally, it stands to reason all of this would fall under Matt's control. Stevehim 19:17, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Children in possible future

Should Matthew and Daniella really be listed there? This is not a future Matt page. --Ice Vision (talk) 21:34, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Probably not. --Aburu 21:36, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

Knox

Did Knox believe that he had actually punched a physical body? The article suggests that Matt was able to produce illusions that were tangible, or at least ones which convinced the viewer that they had interacted with a tangible object. However, Daphne calls Arthur and indicates that everything was going according to plan. Presumably Knox was in on the plan, and the entire sequence was a setup. Was he convinced, or was he playing along?--Falcomadol 11:40, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Did Daphne know that Matt would be able to produce illusions? If I'm not mistaken, this is his first time, so how could she have planned that? Also, wouldn't Knox realize there was no blood on his arm after the illusion (presumably) wore off?
BTW, I wonder if the writers get annoyed with people punching holes (no pun intended) in their stories.--PrometheusMMIV 19:08, 10 November 2008 (EST)
  • I assume that there was more to the scene than we saw. It's a common writing technique to leave your audience in the dark until the "big reveal". I assume Matt told Daphne what he could do. And I'm sure she trusted him since she knew what Maury could do. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:50, 10 November 2008 (EST)

Not to sound like a perv...

But have they ever actually kissed? On the lips? All they do is hug. Or kiss each other on the forehead or cheek. xD Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:30, 20 November 2008 (EST)

  • And by "they," I mean Daphne and Matt. I thought this was the non-existent page for Maphne. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:35, 20 November 2008 (EST)
    • Greg's said that he and Brea have shot, like, three kisses so far, but they keep getting edited out, with people saying it'll be better if it gets pushed back. I think it worked well, making sense that they weren't jumping right into things, at least until her out of the blue "I love you." And someone should really get on making a Maphne page, because they're pretty much the only reason I'm still watching the show. XD--Leshia 02:03, 21 November 2008 (EST)
    • I think in the timeline of the show, they've known each other approximately 48 hours. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:12, 21 November 2008 (EST)
    • Kinda like a modern day Romeo & Juliet. (Age difference, time of meeting to falling in love, both beginning on different 'sides' {hopefully there ending will be better})--Hart 00:55, 18 December 2008 (EST)

Matt's got Precog now?

So with A Clear and Present Danger, does Matt have Precog now? Or is it another Spirit walk? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:45, 3 February 2009 (EST)

  • I really hope is something like a spirit walk, I don't know if I can take "Matt is able to mimic other's powers with telepathy, Bob said himself "whatever the brain controls, you control", so now he can telepathically gain other people's abilities" as an explanation. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:47, 3 February 2009 (EST)
    • Yes Mat has Precognition. His eye's turn white, which is always a precog sign, and he draws the future which comes true, which is also the manifestation of the ability of a Precog. He now can do both Telepathy and Precognition, thus further blurring the lines between distinctive powers and related powers.--HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/3/2009 10:57 (EST)
      • While the most simple thing would be list him as a precog, I think the most prudent thing to do is wait, like we did with Ando's ability, it payed off. I'm not saying don't mention it, I think it should be listed as being like pregoc, though not stating it is, when he and Hiro took Usutu's paste, they both got spirit walks, and their eyes flashed the same way. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:55, 3 February 2009 (EST)
        • Yes, we should wait a little for more confirmation. However, thinking this over, this has to be standard issue precog. With the spirit walk, both Matt and Hiro remembered the contents of their trips. Here, Matt needed to look at the drawings and try to interpret them, just like the other precogs of the show. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 12:05, 3 February 2009 (EST)
          • I think it should be noted that he performed precognition, but it is unknown as to whether it was induced somehow or is now an innate ability he has gained.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:17, 3 February 2009 (EST)
            • As long as it's mentioned that it's not yet confirmed to be an innate ability, I see no problem. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:27, 3 February 2009 (EST)
              • I'm hoping its something along the lines of Usutu imprinting himself into Matt's head, much like Maury making Daphene see Linderman. At least this way he won't be copying the ability, more like Usutu expressing himself through Matt.--Fr0z3nB0nes 18:17, 4 February 2009 (EST)
                • Like post-mortem ability extension? As if precogs had some sort of "out of body" mind like Hana and Drucker? I'm more willing to buy that than Matt suddenly having another ability. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:21, 4 February 2009 (EST)
                  • I was going along the lines of the spirit walk, whilst unknown to Matt, caused his power to learn everything about Usutu, giving him his power?--Fr0z3nB0nes 16:04, 5 February 2009 (EST)
                    • What is he, Sylar? He doesn't have any power except telepathy, right? How would telepathy help him understand powers? And even if he understands them, it's been stated before that acquiring powers requires a changing of DNA. I'm willing to buy that intuitive aptitude allows you to change your DNA, but telepathy?--Uncanny474 16:17, 5 February 2009 (EST)
                      • Matt is seeing Usutu, who's dead. A medium, communicates with the dead. A medium usually has a spirit guide, a highly evolved spirit who's purpose is to help those develop and use their skills. Since Matt can only see Usutu, i will rule out Mediumship as a secondary ability. Basically i think it's Mental Mediumship - Mental mediumship is communication of spirits with a medium by telepathy. Usutu, is communicating with Matt, telepathically and channeling himself into Matt allowing him to gain the ability to foresee future events...??--OmniScience 13:16, 10 February 2009 (EST)
                        • This was explained in the BTE, Matt's telepathy nows lets him enter the same state of mind/consciousness as precogs when they paint, so he's able to paint too. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:23, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Pecognition as a known ability?

Why is precognition listed as a known ability for Matt? Technically he is just using a higher form of telepathy to reach the same end as precognition. If we keep it there then we should also include illusion and persuasion to his known ability bar seeing as he can use those abilities through his telepathy. I think we should just keep 'known ability' as telepathy and add a referral to his Evolved Human Abilities where it explained the extra things Matt can do with his ability. --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 02:09, 19 February 2009 (EST)

I'm inclined to agree with that, it might be like the whole Santiago super speed byproduct all over again. For the infobox, I think telepathy is enough, though using it to achieve precognition definitely goes in the ability section. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:15, 20 February 2009 (EST)
Bump for discussion. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:38, 24 February 2009 (EST)
  • Isn't the precognition just an effect of telepathy? Do we really need to list it separately? --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 00:16, 6 March 2009 (EST)
    • Could be a seperate section for "Acquired" abilities.--VanguardLogo.pnganguard 01:51, 6 March 2009 (EST)
      • Nope, he didn't acquired it, it's not an ability that belonged to someone else, he didn't have to steal or copy it from someone else. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:09, 6 March 2009 (EST)

The most powerful one?

After everything, could Matt be the most powerful hero? I mean, he can control everything the brain controls, meaning he can disable evolved humans. If he focused and learned his power 100% he could actually control everything... --Acolyt3 11:48, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Yeah, I just don't see Matt actually trying to get to that point. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:02, 2 March 2009 (EST)

i do not like this

IceGhost78 giving matt ability to paint the future is like a cheap way for the heroes writers to continue implementing this overused concept. at least give it to a new character or drop the concept my friends

  • Besides Angela still has it, they just haven't shown it recentlyMeesa yoda 13:53, 4 March 2009 (EST)

Precognition?

Looking for some consistency on this, I'm fairly sure Aron and Joe said it was something to do with an Usutu mind-meld? No? -- Tristan0709 talk 02:22, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

  • They said it came about through a combination of (as you put it) 'Usutu's mind-meld' opening up the precog plane of the consciousness to him and then using his telepathy to access it. --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 04:49, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
    • So like Edward and Santiago, Precognition is a byproduct of his original ability. Not a new ability manifesting. He just needed help accessing it.