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{{plus}} Arthur seemed to hesitate when responding to Peter's query about whether or not his powers were gone forever. He could have lied when he said they were. (''[[Eris Quod Sum]]'')<br /> |
{{plus}} Arthur seemed to hesitate when responding to Peter's query about whether or not his powers were gone forever. He could have lied when he said they were. (''[[Eris Quod Sum]]'')<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Didn't seem like he was.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Didn't seem like he was.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Arthur was not making eye contact with Peter; this is a sign of deception.<br /> |
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| [[Arthur]] was lying to [[Sylar]] about [[Angela Petrelli|Angela's]] attempt to drown him. || None. || {{plus}} Faking one's own death speaks poorly for one's trustworthiness.<br /> |
| [[Arthur]] was lying to [[Sylar]] about [[Angela Petrelli|Angela's]] attempt to drown him. || None. || {{plus}} Faking one's own death speaks poorly for one's trustworthiness.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Only [[Arthur]] has shown the willingness not only to kill his own son, but to kill anyone he sees as an impediment.<br /> |
::{{plus}} Only [[Arthur]] has shown the willingness not only to kill his own son, but to kill anyone he sees as an impediment.<br /> |
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{{note}} It is possible Angela did have a dream showing what Sylar would become, but she gave him up for adoption rather than drown him.<br /> |
{{note}} It is possible Angela did have a dream showing what Sylar would become, but she gave him up for adoption rather than drown him.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Arthur lied about being Sylar's father.<br /> |
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| Arthur plans on giving everyone abilities (as seen in the [[exposed future|future]]) so he can absorb them all. || None. || {{plus}} It would be the perfect plan for a villain to gain more power: give everyone abilities so he can take them all using his and [[Empathic mimicry|Peter's powers]] combined to steal them from a distance.<br /> |
| Arthur plans on giving everyone abilities (as seen in the [[exposed future|future]]) so he can absorb them all. || None. || {{plus}} It would be the perfect plan for a villain to gain more power: give everyone abilities so he can take them all using his and [[Empathic mimicry|Peter's powers]] combined to steal them from a distance.<br /> |
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::{{note}} The abilities are triggered by a specific emotion - once out the user doesn't have to feel that emotion in order to use it - But the ability would be at it's most powerful if the user feels the triggered emotion. Brian's telekinesis was really weak because he was nervous and feared something was wrong with him. "Powers are tied to emotions". Weak emotions shows weakened abilities - Strong emotions show stronger abilities, but in some cases it can be vice versa.<br /> |
::{{note}} The abilities are triggered by a specific emotion - once out the user doesn't have to feel that emotion in order to use it - But the ability would be at it's most powerful if the user feels the triggered emotion. Brian's telekinesis was really weak because he was nervous and feared something was wrong with him. "Powers are tied to emotions". Weak emotions shows weakened abilities - Strong emotions show stronger abilities, but in some cases it can be vice versa.<br /> |
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| Arthur has plans on stopping anyone that can see and try to prevent his version of the future. || None. || {{plus}} Arthur [[Power absorption|stole]] [[Peter]]'s powers, which include [[space-time manipulation]], [[precognition]] and [[precognitive dreaming]].<br /> |
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{{plus}} Arthur put [[Angela]] in a coma.<br /> |
{{plus}} Arthur put [[Angela]] in a coma.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Arthur killed [[Usutu]].<br /> |
{{plus}} Arthur killed [[Usutu]].<br /> |
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| [[Arthur Petrelli]] can take powers from others without stealing them. || -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." Angela and Linderman. (Villains) || {{plus}} Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. And this was a pretty rare power.<br /> |
| [[Arthur Petrelli]] can take powers from others without stealing them. || -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." Angela and Linderman. (Villains) || {{plus}} Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. And this was a pretty rare power.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Telepathy was never mentioned to be a rare power, [[Chandra]] had notes about other evolved humans who had that ability.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Telepathy was never mentioned to be a rare power, [[Chandra]] had notes about other evolved humans who had that ability.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Arthur wipes Angela's memory, the same way the [[mental manipulation|Haitian's power]] allows it. But Arthur |
:{{plus}} Arthur wipes Angela's memory, the same way the [[mental manipulation|Haitian's power]] allows it. But Arthur hadn't absorbed Peter at that time, so I assume if he used Haitian's power on Hiro, that's because telepathy could not be used for "wiping memories". That implies he somehow had Haitian's power before.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The writers interviews don't seem to follow that logic, but maybe in order to prevent spoilers.<br /> |
:{{minus}} The writers interviews don't seem to follow that logic, but maybe in order to prevent spoilers.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The effects used in the scene suggested telepathy, and Arthur did use mental manipulation on Hiro, as confirmed in the BTE interview.<br /> |
:{{minus}} The effects used in the scene suggested telepathy, and Arthur did use mental manipulation on Hiro, as confirmed in the BTE interview.<br /> |
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:{{note}} This makes sense since when Arthur told Sylar to capture Claire, he wanted her alive. He must have known that should the host die, the catalyst would die also.<br /> |
:{{note}} This makes sense since when Arthur told Sylar to capture Claire, he wanted her alive. He must have known that should the host die, the catalyst would die also.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} The host and catalyst both dying does not mean that the host (Arthur) can't be brought back to life. Arthur can still have died, causing the catalyst to "die". He can then be brought back to life if indeed the bullet (or bullet fragment) is lodged in his brain, and this is removed, allowing him to regenerate.<br /> |
:{{plus}} The host and catalyst both dying does not mean that the host (Arthur) can't be brought back to life. Arthur can still have died, causing the catalyst to "die". He can then be brought back to life if indeed the bullet (or bullet fragment) is lodged in his brain, and this is removed, allowing him to regenerate.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} The bullet went through his brain, apparently damaging the part that controlled his abilities. |
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The following fan theories are about Arthur Petrelli.
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Theories
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| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability at the end of his life because Arthur stole it. | Arthur has the ability to absorb powers from others. | + Having a character who most likely has an ability die without demonstrating it is unusual for Heroes.
+ This could be how Arthur obtained telepathy.
+ This could be the event that divided the Company. |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of intuitive aptitude. | None. | + Arthur is the father of Sylar, who has intuitive aptitude. + He requires some form of physical contact, which maybe the same as Sylar needing to look at a person's brain.
- Arthur has not been seen knowing how things work. |
| People who lose their abilities to Arthur can regain them through use of the Formula. | None. | • According to Mohinder, a person's DNA determines what their innate ability is. • If Mohinder did inject Peter with the formula, Peter might have his own ability back and copy his old ones from Arthur; including Arthur's own ability.
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| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of empathic mimicry. | "You will be what I am" is the English meaning of seventh episode in season three. | + "You will be what I am" may refer to Peter, that he will have such power when he learns to use it so. - Peter doesn't steal abilities; he basically copies them and pastes them into his DNA. Peter's subjects still have their abilities and the process is painless. Arthur has to put his subjects through a painful process of stealing their ability to the point where they don't have it anymore. In this case, Peter's empathic mimicry is more advanced than Arthur's power absorption.
+ Like Matt Parkman has the same power as his father, Peter may have inherited his power from Arthur.
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| Arthur Petrelli's ability is a synthetic one, not a natural one. | None. | + In War Buddies, Arthur had no obvious powers, but it is clear as of Dying of the Light that he does. This means that either A) his power didn't manifest until he got to be pretty old, which seems fairly rare among people with natural abilities, or else B) his ability is synthetic. - Arthur could have already had his ability and not known it, or had manifested his ability after returning from the war.
• If he injected himself, that could have changed his DNA structure enough that by the time Gabriel and Peter were conceived, the gene got passed down to them. Niki's abilities were synthetic, and that at least didn't adversely affect Micah, though we don't know if D.L.'s were natural or not. Claire had one parent with synthetic abilities too.
- Angela specifically says that Arthur was disappointed that Nathan didn't have an ability, despite his lineage, implying that both Angela and Arthur were born as evolved humans. The fact that Arthur had no ability in Vietnam can be explained simply by the fact that he had yet to steal any abilities from another evolved human; much like Peter, he had to realize that he wasn't special alone but need someone else with him to be special.
- The formula that gives people powers was created by the Company, after its formation. Arthur Petrelli was one of the twelve founders of the Company and it has been stated several times that the founders were all individuals with special abilities. They found each other because of their abilities, meaning that for Arthur to have been found and become a founder, he would have had to have an ability before the formula was ever created.
- It is assumed all the Founders found each other and joined together through their powers. This means we assume Arthur had a power before the Company's founding - thus before synthetic powers were created.
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| The playing cards in the Vault are from a game of poker played between Kaito Nakamura and Arthur Petrelli that caused them to join forces. | None. | + Arthur was in SE Asia during the Vietnam war and could have traveled through Japan.
+ The power of probability, which Kaito has in a deleted scene, would be extremely helpful when playing cards. |
| Angela didn't love Arthur. | None. | + She cheated on him with Kaito. + When Angela discovered that he is, in fact, alive, her demeanor was one of surprise and fear, rather than any sort of relief or joy.
- On the contrary, Angela seemed to love Arthur very much. (Villains)
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| Arthur Petrelli is Noah Bennet's biological father. | None. | + Noah Bennet's father needed glasses. (Company Man) + Mr. Petrelli needed glasses and apparently wore a horn-rimmed version. (The Kindness of Strangers) |
| Arthur Petrelli is the true villain of Heroes. | According to War Buddies, "Dallas" has an extremely utilitarian philosophy, torturing a native for several hours to find the lost Skyhawk, and then destroying an entire village along with killing a young girl to win the war. Many of the antagonists related to the Company appear to use the same modus operandi: Linderman wanted to unite the world by killing .07% of its population. | + In Truth & Consequences, Victoria tells Peter, "Adam's a murderer, and since you're helping him, you're one too... Just like your parents." + Arthur was a close friend of Linderman, and one of the founders of the Company. Linderman was a main villain of season one, and certainly the most manipulative. He is also married to Angela, who also supported Linderman. |
| Arthur has the ability to control evolved humans but not humans. | None. | + A young and innocent Linderman assists in the secret beating interrogation in Vietnam; the human had to be beaten to give up the info. + Controlling the powers of the original Company (Bob's alchemy, Linderman's healing, Angela Petrelli's precognitive dreaming, and so on) makes him the most powerful man on the planet, with unlimited resources. Controlling from behind the scenes is his preference, like calling himself Dallas. He likes to be hidden.
+ With the help of Maury Parkman, he could have faked his own death. If human influence in the Company led to a assassination attempt coup d'état style, what better way to lay low than with the help of someone who can manipulate humans and evolved humans, and make everyone think he is dead?
+ In both possible futures, Hiro is a sought after "terrorist". However, he is to be captured, not killed like Peter. With a time controller, Arthur could correct his past mistakes and take over much sooner and easier, as well as avoid being put on life support.
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| Arthur arranged for the unwitting reporter to discover a link between Niki Sanders and Tracy Strauss and use that to blackmail Tracy in order to stress her out and trigger her powers. | None. | + Arthur Petrelli is a master manipulator much like Daniel Linderman. Under Arthur's orders, Maury (as Linderman) has been manipulating events to push Tracy and Nathan together in much the same way that Linderman manipulated Niki and D.L.'s lives in order to produce Micah. |
| Arthur has the ability of aura absorption, the same as Linda Tavara. | None. | + His power is similar to how her ability worked, touching people and taking their abilities.
• He might have learned how to only take a person's ability, seeing as how aura absorption usually kills the victim. |
| Arthur Petrelli now has "the hunger". | Arthur said, "You don't have your abilities anymore, Peter...because I have them now." : - Arthur (Dying of the Light) "You have the hunger. You're like me, brother..." : - Sylar (to Peter) (I Am Become Death) |
- Chris Zatta says that he doesn't. - Peter did not have the hunger until Gabriel showed him how to use intuitive aptitude.
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| The only way for Peter to regain his powers is if Sylar removes Arthur's brain and shows Peter how to take the ability. | None. | + Sylar's ability allows him to see how things work, but has never been specifically stated to let him take abilities. Therefore, it is possible that with knowledge attainable only by a person with intuitive aptitude, an ordinary human being can take an evolved human's abilities. + From a story standpoint, it would be fitting for Sylar to give in to the hunger he has been fighting for most of the third season, but then use it to help others. |
| Nathan was born with an ability, but Arthur stole it, either knowingly or by accident. | None. | + Angela said Nathan was born without an ability despite his lineage, yet Angela has been known to misrepresent the truth to control Nathan. + If Arthur unwillingly stole Nathan's powers, that would explain why he spearheaded Pinehearst to create synthetic abilities out of guilt and desire to fix what he did.
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| Arthur seeks to absorb/drain the abilities of every evolved human. | None. | + He has absorbed Adam's ability when he could have just used his blood and used him as an asset.
+ He knew Peter had a lot of powers and likely wanted them all for himself. Although he wouldn't necessarily need a duplication power like empathic mimicry or a second copy of rapid cell regeneration, he may not have been able to choose to only take some abilities from Peter and not others. |
| Arthur can return powers to those from whom he took them. | None. | + He's keeping Peter alive. Without any powers, Peter would be useless to him.
+ Arthur has not made physical contact with Peter since stealing his abilities. Also, he has security guards physically restrain Peter when Peter tries to escape the facility. Perhaps a second touch from one of Arthur's victims reverses the power transfer? |
| Arthur's powers will return to their original owners once he dies. | None. | + This could be a way to restore Peter's and other people's abilities.
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| Arthur will be killed by Angela and Company with the aid of the Haitian. | None. | + The Haitian is really the only one that can stop Arthur as he seems he'd be the most experienced with abilities and cannot be touched, literally and in context because of his power blocking. - Arthur may have access to the Haitian's ability thanks to Peter's encounter with the Haitian in the exposed future. If so, Arthur may be immune to the Haitian's power blocking. + It seemed to have almost succeeded in Villains, reducing him to recover in hiding at Pinehearst. |
| Arthur Petrelli's power theft is a synthetic ability and he originally had a much simpler power. | None. | + Angela implies that Arthur had some sort of power prior to Nathan's birth. + Nathan did not inherit the ability to copy powers, but Peter did. Perhaps Arthur did not give himself the ability until after he was satisfied with the results on Nathan. |
| Arthur used a mix of dream manipulation and persuasion to go into Angela's dream and paralyze her. | None. | + It does appear like he used these two abilities - dream manipulation would allow him to go into Angela's dream and persuasion would make Angela do whatever he said and/or implied, thus "You won't even be able to move" would paralyze her. - Maury can easily do this with his power, too.
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| Over time, Arthur will lose his stolen abilities and they will be returned to their owners. | None. | • It is unknown if Arthur's stolen abilities will last forever, maybe if he touches the people he stole the powers from again they will reacquire them.
+ Arthur seemed to hesitate when responding to Peter's query about whether or not his powers were gone forever. He could have lied when he said they were. (Eris Quod Sum)
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| Arthur was lying to Sylar about Angela's attempt to drown him. | None. | + Faking one's own death speaks poorly for one's trustworthiness. + Future Peter said that the creation of the formula led to the exposed future. Arthur told (present) Peter that he wants to prevent the exposed future. So why is Arthur doing the very thing (creating the formula) that helped bring said future about?
• It is possible Angela did have a dream showing what Sylar would become, but she gave him up for adoption rather than drown him. |
| Arthur plans on giving everyone abilities (as seen in the future) so he can absorb them all. | None. | + It would be the perfect plan for a villain to gain more power: give everyone abilities so he can take them all using his and Peter's powers combined to steal them from a distance.
- Arthur claims that this isn't what he wants.
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| Arthur isn't an evil villain. | None. | + It'd make for some twist. - Villains are evil by definition.
- He killed Maury only because he went against him. Maury was doing a heroic thing: defending his son.
- Arthur thinks he is better than everyone else.
- Arthur holds the threat of death over Daphne's head.
- Arthur ordered Matt to be killed.
- Arthur seems to hold a strict "if you're not with me, you're against me" policy.
- He stole Peter's powers.
- He calls his own team "the bad guys" and "villains."
- Promos for Dying of the Light and Angels and Monsters stated that Arthur is the leader of the villains.
- Arthur has recruited Knox, who is evil.
- Arthur killed Peter, Nathan, and Tracy in Angela's dream.
- He was fully behind the New York plan, and wouldn't hesitate to kill his own son to protect himself.
- He killed Usutu. |
| Arthur has adopted an "ubermensch" philosophy. | He is seen reading Nietzsche while waiting for Peter to wake up in Eris Quod Sum. | + When Peter tells accuses Arthur of feeling superior to other people (even evolved humans), Arthur simply states that it is a "fact". + He demonstrated an early form of this philosophy in War Buddies. |
| The four villains in Angela's dream were meant to represent Arthur. | None. | + Arthur has already killed two of the villains, Adam and Maury, and has both of their powers. If he kills Knox and either Tracy or Barbara at some point, he will, in a sense, represent all four villains. - The dream was most likely only a possible future that will no longer come to pass. |
| Arthur's power absorption effects people with artificial powers and genetic powers differently. | None. | + Arthur killed Adam Monroe when he absorbed Monroe's cellular regeneration however, but when he took Maya and Peter's powers they were only shown to experience severe discomfort.
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| Arthur absorbed Maury Parkman's powers before the beginning of the series, and over time Maury regenerated them. | None. | + Maury was one of the company founders, so it stands to reason that he and Arthur came into contact many times prior to the series. So it is very possible that Arthur stole his powers from Maury. • This would mean that stolen powers do regenerate over time, since Maury had his powers in season two.
+ Maury could have regained his powers by using the formula. |
| Arthur has stolen dream manipulation from Sanjog Iyer. | None. | + Arthur has entered Angela's dream, spoken to her and put her into a coma. He also did a similar thing to Matt Parkman, creating a dream-illusion of Daphne to attack Matt while he was inside Angela's dream.
+ We haven't seen Sanjog in a while, and Pinehearst has been locating and capturing a lot of evolved humans lately.
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| Arthur is or was an empath. | None. | + Peter and Sylar are both empaths and have abilities similar to Arthur.
- Arthur said that Nathan was most like him and Nathan is not an empath.
- Just because Sylar can acquire new abilities by understanding someone's emotions doesn't make him an empath. |
| The naturally powered Petrelli men (Arthur, Peter, and Gabriel) are empaths, though each has his own "version" of it. | The fact that Sylar had always been an empath, according to Arthur, and the fact that all three men have the ability to acquire the powers of others. | + Perhaps his power is a branch of empathy, as are Peter's and Gabriel's/Sylar's. Peter's is the receptive type, Sylar's intuitive aptitude is the inquisitive type (learns), while his is somewhere in the middle.
+ Sometimes powers can run in the family such as Matt and Maury and Meredith and Flint.
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| Arthur has plans on stopping anyone that can see and try to prevent his version of the future. | None. | + Arthur stole Peter's powers, which include space-time manipulation, precognition and precognitive dreaming. + Arthur put Angela in a coma. |
| Arthur Petrelli can take powers from others without stealing them. | -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." Angela and Linderman. (Villains) | + Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. And this was a pretty rare power.
+ This should be true now that Arthur has stolen empathic mimicry from Peter. |
| Because Arthur has mental manipulation, he can use it to suppress his own abilities, and that's why he doesn't suffer the Hunger of intuitive aptitude. | None. | - It's been stated that Arthur doesn't have the hunger because he has yet to access intuitive aptitude.
- Peter also had mental manipulation, and clearly that didn't help.
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| Arthur will come back to life. | None. | + Arthur's body shines with the catalyst as he lay on the floor dead. It should be kept in mind that it was only when Ishi gave up the catalyst to Hiro that she finally died. Perhaps the catalyst will have similar life-sustaining effects on Arthur.
+ Both Claire and Peter have died by having something lodged into their brain, and both of them came back to life once said object was removed. The same thing could happen to Arthur.
- The glow seemed to indicate that the catalyst also died, something logical to happen if its host died.
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