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{{plus}} From what we've seen so far regarding abilities and their inheritance, it seems likely that the natural possession of an ability is a recessive trait. There is only one recorded case of a normal child born to two evolved parents ([[Penny Logan]]) and it is possible that Penny Logan simply never manifested, as she died at a fairly young age. Conversely, there is an overwhelmingly large number of cases of evolved children born to two ''normal'' parents. If the natural possession of an ability is recessive and Arthur Petrelli's ability was natural, Nathan could not have been born without a natural power. Children of two parents with the same recessive phenotype will ALWAYS have the same trait as their parents--Arthur and Angela could not have produced a normal child.<br /> |
{{plus}} From what we've seen so far regarding abilities and their inheritance, it seems likely that the natural possession of an ability is a recessive trait. There is only one recorded case of a normal child born to two evolved parents ([[Penny Logan]]) and it is possible that Penny Logan simply never manifested, as she died at a fairly young age. Conversely, there is an overwhelmingly large number of cases of evolved children born to two ''normal'' parents. If the natural possession of an ability is recessive and Arthur Petrelli's ability was natural, Nathan could not have been born without a natural power. Children of two parents with the same recessive phenotype will ALWAYS have the same trait as their parents--Arthur and Angela could not have produced a normal child.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Genes don't work that simply always, like with height there is something like 6 genes governing it, abilities may have 12 genes or more governing it, considering human DNA is 90% junk space that doesn't do anything, its possible there could be any amount of genes controlling powers, not just one. Arthur having a natural ability would fit in with the theme that Peter inherited the capability to take on many abilities from Arthur, where Nathan got flight as his ability wasn't inherited. Also, Angela tells Nathan when referring to giving him a synthetic ability, "we thought because of your lineage you could handle it, and obviously we were right" further suggesting that both Angela and Arthur had naturally occurring abilities.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Genes don't work that simply always, like with height there is something like 6 genes governing it, abilities may have 12 genes or more governing it, considering human DNA is 90% junk space that doesn't do anything, its possible there could be any amount of genes controlling powers, not just one. Arthur having a natural ability would fit in with the theme that Peter inherited the capability to take on many abilities from Arthur, where Nathan got flight as his ability wasn't inherited. Also, Angela tells Nathan when referring to giving him a synthetic ability, "we thought because of your lineage you could handle it, and obviously we were right" further suggesting that both Angela and Arthur had naturally occurring abilities.<br /> |
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{{note}} If he injected himself, that could have changed his DNA structure enough that by the time |
{{note}} If he injected himself, that could have changed his DNA structure enough that by the time Peter were conceived, the gene got passed down to them. Niki's abilities were synthetic, and that at least didn't adversely affect Micah, though we don't know if D.L.'s were natural or not. Claire had one parent with synthetic abilities too.<br /> |
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:{{note}} D.L.'s mother had a natural ability. D.L.'s was probably natural too--since Niki and D.L.'s relationship was a Company experiment, that makes sense, because they'd probably learn more from a union of a synthetic and a natural than from two synthetics.<br /> |
:{{note}} D.L.'s mother had a natural ability. D.L.'s was probably natural too--since Niki and D.L.'s relationship was a Company experiment, that makes sense, because they'd probably learn more from a union of a synthetic and a natural than from two synthetics.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Angela specifically says that Arthur was disappointed that Nathan didn't have an ability, ''despite his lineage'', implying that both Angela and Arthur were born as evolved humans. The fact that Arthur had no ability in Vietnam can be explained simply by the fact that he had yet to steal any abilities from another evolved human; much like Peter, he had to realize that he wasn't special alone but need someone else with him to be special.<br /> |
{{minus}} Angela specifically says that Arthur was disappointed that Nathan didn't have an ability, ''despite his lineage'', implying that both Angela and Arthur were born as evolved humans. The fact that Arthur had no ability in Vietnam can be explained simply by the fact that he had yet to steal any abilities from another evolved human; much like Peter, he had to realize that he wasn't special alone but need someone else with him to be special.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Also, at the end of ''War Buddies: Part 6'', Arthur had been in intimate physical contact with Angela Petrelli since they were shown with children when Linderman showed up at his door. He didn't absorb her dreaming ability either.<br /> |
:{{plus}} Also, at the end of ''War Buddies: Part 6'', Arthur had been in intimate physical contact with Angela Petrelli since they were shown with children when Linderman showed up at his door. He didn't absorb her dreaming ability either.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Angela Petrelli could have been given her dreaming ability after Arthur was disabled, and Angela could have had another ability that Arthur took from her.<br /> |
:{{minus}} Angela Petrelli could have been given her dreaming ability after Arthur was disabled, and Angela could have had another ability that Arthur took from her.<br /> |
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:{{note}} We now know from the episode ''[[1961]]'' that Angela had her ability in her youth. |
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{{minus}} The formula that gives people powers was created by the Company, after its formation. Arthur Petrelli was one of the twelve founders of the Company and it has been stated ''several'' times that the founders were all individuals with special abilities. They found each other because of their abilities, meaning that for Arthur to have been found and become a founder, he would have had to have an ability before the formula was ever created.<br /> |
{{minus}} The formula that gives people powers was created by the Company, after its formation. Arthur Petrelli was one of the twelve founders of the Company and it has been stated ''several'' times that the founders were all individuals with special abilities. They found each other because of their abilities, meaning that for Arthur to have been found and become a founder, he would have had to have an ability before the formula was ever created.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} Victoria Pratt didn't seem to have an ability. And if none of the Company founders were normal humans then where the heck did the "one of us, one of them" policy come from?<br /> |
:{{plus}} Victoria Pratt didn't seem to have an ability. And if none of the Company founders were normal humans then where the heck did the "one of us, one of them" policy come from?<br /> |
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The following fan theories are about Arthur Petrelli.
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Theories
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| Kaito Nakamura didn't have an ability at the end of his life because Arthur stole it. | Arthur has the ability to absorb powers from others. | + Having a character who most likely has an ability die without demonstrating it is unusual for Heroes.
+ This could be how Arthur obtained telepathy.
+ This could be the event that divided the Company. |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of intuitive aptitude. | None. | + He requires some form of physical contact, which maybe the same as Sylar needing to look at a person's brain. - Arthur completely takes away the ability. Sylar did not take away Claire's ability.
- Arthur has not been seen knowing how things work. |
| Arthur's ability is a more advanced form of empathic mimicry. | "You will be what I am" is the English meaning of seventh episode in season three. | + "You will be what I am" may refer to Peter, that he will have such power when he learns to use it so. - Peter doesn't steal abilities; he basically copies them and pastes them into his DNA. Peter's subjects still have their abilities and the process is painless. Arthur has to put his subjects through a painful process of stealing their ability to the point where they don't have it anymore. In this case, Peter's empathic mimicry is more advanced than Arthur's power absorption.
+ Like Matt Parkman has the same power as his father, Peter may have inherited his power from Arthur.
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| Arthur Petrelli's ability was a synthetic one, not a natural one. | None. | + In War Buddies, Arthur had no obvious powers, but it is clear as of Dying of the Light that he does. This means that either A) his power didn't manifest until he got to be pretty old, which seems fairly rare among people with natural abilities, or else B) his ability is synthetic. - Arthur could have already had his ability and not known it, or had manifested his ability after returning from the war.
• If he injected himself, that could have changed his DNA structure enough that by the time Peter were conceived, the gene got passed down to them. Niki's abilities were synthetic, and that at least didn't adversely affect Micah, though we don't know if D.L.'s were natural or not. Claire had one parent with synthetic abilities too.
- Angela specifically says that Arthur was disappointed that Nathan didn't have an ability, despite his lineage, implying that both Angela and Arthur were born as evolved humans. The fact that Arthur had no ability in Vietnam can be explained simply by the fact that he had yet to steal any abilities from another evolved human; much like Peter, he had to realize that he wasn't special alone but need someone else with him to be special.
- The formula that gives people powers was created by the Company, after its formation. Arthur Petrelli was one of the twelve founders of the Company and it has been stated several times that the founders were all individuals with special abilities. They found each other because of their abilities, meaning that for Arthur to have been found and become a founder, he would have had to have an ability before the formula was ever created.
- It is assumed all the Founders found each other and joined together through their powers. This means we assume Arthur had a power before the Company's founding - thus before synthetic powers were created.
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| The playing cards in the Vault are from a game of poker played between Kaito Nakamura and Arthur Petrelli that caused them to join forces. | None. | + Arthur was in SE Asia during the Vietnam war and could have traveled through Japan.
+ The power of probability, which Kaito has in a deleted scene, would be extremely helpful when playing cards. |
| Angela didn't love Arthur. | None. | + She cheated on him with Kaito. + When Angela discovered that he is, in fact, alive, her demeanor was one of surprise and fear, rather than any sort of relief or joy.
- On the contrary, Angela seemed to love Arthur very much. (Villains)
- She refers to him as "the man [she] loved". |
| Arthur Petrelli is Noah Bennet's biological father. | None. | + Noah Bennet's father needed glasses. (Company Man) + Mr. Petrelli needed glasses and apparently wore a horn-rimmed version. (The Kindness of Strangers)
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| Arthur arranged for the unwitting reporter to discover a link between Niki Sanders and Tracy Strauss and use that to blackmail Tracy in order to stress her out and trigger her powers. | None. | + Arthur Petrelli is a master manipulator much like Daniel Linderman. Under Arthur's orders, Maury (as Linderman) has been manipulating events to push Tracy and Nathan together in much the same way that Linderman manipulated Niki and D.L.'s lives in order to produce Micah. |
| Arthur had the ability of aura absorption, the same as Linda Tavara. | None. | + His power is similar to how her ability worked, touching people and taking their abilities. • He might have learned how to only take a person's ability, seeing as how aura absorption usually kills the victim. |
| Nathan was born with an ability, but Arthur stole it, either knowingly or by accident. | None. | + Angela said Nathan was born without an ability despite his lineage, yet Angela has been known to misrepresent the truth to control Nathan. + If Arthur unwillingly stole Nathan's powers, that would explain why he spearheaded Pinehearst to create synthetic abilities out of guilt and desire to fix what he did.
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| Arthur Petrelli's power theft was a synthetic ability and he originally had a much simpler power. | None. | + Angela implies that Arthur had some sort of power prior to Nathan's birth. + Nathan did not inherit the ability to copy powers, but Peter did. Perhaps Arthur did not give himself the ability until after he was satisfied with the results on Nathan.
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| Arthur used a mix of dream manipulation and persuasion to go into Angela's dream and paralyze her. | None. | + It does appear like he used these two abilities - dream manipulation would allow him to go into Angela's dream and persuasion would make Angela do whatever he said and/or implied, thus "You won't even be able to move" would paralyze her. - Maury can easily do this with his power, too.
+ Telepathy itself can not be used over long distance (Maury was only able to trap Molly because she connected to him with her ability), but dream manipulation can be used like this. |
| Arthur planned on giving everyone abilities (as seen in the future) so he could absorb them all. | None. | + It would be the perfect plan for a villain to gain more power: give everyone abilities so he can take them all using his and Peter's powers combined to steal them from a distance.
- Arthur claims that this isn't what he wants.
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| Arthur wasn't an evil villain. | None. | + It'd make for some twist. - Villains are evil by definition.
- He killed Maury only because he went against him. Maury was doing a heroic thing: defending his son.
- Arthur thinks he is better than everyone else.
- Arthur holds the threat of death over Daphne's head.
- Arthur ordered Matt to be killed.
- Arthur seems to hold a strict "if you're not with me, you're against me" policy.
- He stole Peter's powers.
- He calls his own team "the bad guys" and "villains."
- Promos for Dying of the Light and Angels and Monsters stated that Arthur is the leader of the villains.
- Arthur has recruited Knox, who is evil.
- Arthur killed Peter, Nathan, and Tracy in Angela's dream.
- He was fully behind the New York plan, and wouldn't hesitate to kill his own son to protect himself.
- He killed Usutu. |
| Arthur had adopted an "ubermensch" philosophy. | He is seen reading Nietzsche while waiting for Peter to wake up in Eris Quod Sum. | + When Peter tells accuses Arthur of feeling superior to other people (even evolved humans), Arthur simply states that it is a "fact". + He demonstrated an early form of this philosophy in War Buddies. |
| The four villains in Angela's dream were meant to represent Arthur. | None. | - The dream was most likely only a possible future that will no longer come to pass. |
| Arthur's power absorption effects people with artificial powers and genetic powers differently. | None. | + Arthur killed Adam Monroe when he absorbed Monroe's cellular regeneration however, but when he took Maya and Peter's powers they were only shown to experience severe discomfort.
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| Arthur absorbed Maury Parkman's powers before the beginning of the series, and over time Maury regenerated them. | None. | + Maury was one of the company founders, so it stands to reason that he and Arthur came into contact many times prior to the series. So it is very possible that Arthur stole his powers from Maury. • This would mean that stolen powers do regenerate over time, since Maury had his powers in season two.
+ Maury could have regained his powers by using the formula. |
| Arthur stole dream manipulation from Sanjog Iyer. | None. | + Arthur has entered Angela's dream, spoken to her and put her into a coma. He also did a similar thing to Matt Parkman, creating a dream-illusion of Daphne to attack Matt while he was inside Angela's dream.
+ We haven't seen Sanjog in a while, and Pinehearst has been locating and capturing a lot of evolved humans lately.
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| Arthur is or was an empath. | None. | + Peter and Sylar both gain abilities through empathy and have abilities similar to Arthur.
- Arthur said that Nathan was most like him and Nathan is not an empath.
+ He is now an empath, because he has stolen Peter's abilities, including empathic mimicry. However he was not an empath before that point, because he needed to kill Adam to take his power, instead of using empathic mimicry. |
| The naturally powered Petrelli men (Arthur and Peter) are empaths, though each has his own "version" of it. | None. | + Perhaps his power is a branch of empathy, as are Peter's and Gabriel's/Sylar's. Peter's is the receptive type, Sylar's intuitive aptitude is the inquisitive type (learns), while his is somewhere in the middle.
+ Sometimes powers can run in the family such as Matt and Maury and Meredith and Flint.
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| Arthur had plans on stopping anyone that could see and try to prevent his version of the future. | None. | + Arthur stole Peter's powers, which include space-time manipulation, precognition and precognitive dreaming. + Arthur put Angela in a coma. |
| Arthur Petrelli could take powers from others without stealing them. | -"What's on your mind Daniel?" -"The question is: what's not in yours." - Angela and Linderman. (Villains) | + Arthur does have the telepathy, that Maury still had. And this was a pretty rare power.
+ This should be true, after Arthur stole empathic mimicry from Peter.
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| Because Arthur has mental manipulation, he can use it to suppress his own abilities, and that's why he doesn't suffer the Hunger of intuitive aptitude. | None. | - It's been stated that Arthur doesn't have the hunger because he has yet to access intuitive aptitude.
- Peter also had mental manipulation, and clearly that didn't help.
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| Arthur will come back to life. | None. | + Arthur's body shines with the catalyst as he lay on the floor dead. It should be kept in mind that it was only when Ishi gave up the catalyst to Hiro that she finally died. Perhaps the catalyst will have similar life-sustaining effects on Arthur.
+ Both Claire and Peter have died by having something lodged into their brain, and both of them came back to life once said object was removed. The same thing could happen to Arthur.
- The glow seemed to indicate that the catalyst also died, something logical to happen if its host died.
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| Arthur found Molly and took her power. | None. | + Arthur can use telephathy to dig into Mohinder's mind and find where she is supposed to be. + Arthur seems to know exactly where people are, such as finding Hiro in Africa and in New York (even in a different time).
- He might have taken clairvoyance from another evolved human between 1977 and now. Remember, as Peter's dad, Arthur has been exposed to more evolved humans, and has also been using and refining his power for a longer period of time than Peter. |
| Arthur used 9th Wonders! comics to carry out his plans. | None. | + He somehow knew everything that was happening - in Tokyo, where Hiro decided to open his father's safe; in New York, where Sylar and Elle released the villains; even in the past, where Claire was given the Catalyst. This story was depicted in 9th Wonders!.
+ That would be the easiest way. And Arthur was smart enough to choose the best tool.
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| Arthur somehow attained the ability to transfer his consciousness to Nathan's body after his death. | It explains why Nathan suddenly turned so evil. | + Future Peter does that to present Peter when he puts him in Jesse's body. It's possible that since present Peter most likely absorbed all of Future Peter's power, Arthur now has that power.
- Nathan said himself that the events in Haiti changed his mind. |
| When Arthur absorbs an ability, he gets a weaker version of the power. | None. | - Nothing suggests that. - Arthur has been shown to have more control and to use abilities more efficiently than the ones he took them from. |
| Arthur's native ability is telepathy, which has become so advanced that rather than ripping thoughts out of people's heads, he was able to rip powers out of people and implant them into himself. | "I just wonder sometimes if, without your power, you'd know me at all anymore." - Angela (to Arthur) | + The quote clearly applies to telepathy and not power absorption.
+ Arthur displays only telepathy and never power absorption during the Villains episode.
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| Maury Parkman had a sibling or other relative who also had the power of telepathy, and the two came into some sort of conflict. When Arthur and Maury first met, they worked together to defeat the other telepathy-user, ending in Arthur taking the other user's telepathy with his ability of power absorption. | None. | + This could explain how Arthur gained telepathy, as well as how he gained Maury's friendship and loyalty, eventually leading to Maury becoming one of the founders of the Company. + Both Maury and his son, Matt Parkman, have telepathy, proving that the power runs in the Parkman family. |
| Arthur uses telepathy to create the illusion that he was killed. | None. | + Sylar's telekinesis can only be used to control the situation physically. Arthur had broken the Haitian's hold and had ample time to take control of the situation. But, outwardly he attempts nothing, even in that dangerous situation. Maybe he is focusing on telepathy instead, since it's his forte. + If Matt Parkman can pull this kind of illusion off, it should be nothing for Arthur.
+ Arthur alone had the ability to stop time at this point. It would be a natural reaction for him to stop time and formulate a plan. It is perhaps suspicious that he seems not to have.
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| Arthur has survived or resurrected, and is manipulating the current situation so that he can round up as many posthumans as possible and steal their abilities. | None. | + If he is alive, he easily could replace or control any number of authority figures. + Arthur had specifically referred to certain abilities such as precognition as 'dangerous', and he may not want anyone not under his control to have any abilities at all. |
| When Arthur is killed, the effects of his power absorption are slowly reversed over time. | None. | + Many times when a person is knocked unconscience or killed, the immediate effects of their powers dissipate. In Arthur's case, his power may be so strong that the effects linger for a while after his death. - If that was so, character who had their powers removed by Arthur would have been repowered by now.
- Removing an ability from an evolved human is a genetical injury. A sliced hand cannot grow back, even if the one who sliced it off is dead. |
| Arthur is related to Samson Gray. | None. | + They both have relatively similar powers. + It explains the gap between the lie detection. |
| Arthur originally had an ability to absorb powers through physical contact, much like Peter's ability replication. He later absorbed an ability to render evolved humans powerless. | None. | + Since Hiro's ability was partially restored, it applies that some traces of it still remained. Which means that Arthur did not steal it completely, but rather made it inaccessible. |
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