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== Heroes: The Game ==
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Feel free to check out a radical new fan fiction: ''[[User:Radicell/The Game|Heroes: The Game]]''. Each installment to the game is a "mission" for the player to complete. Visit the [[User:Radicell/The Game/missions|mission list]] to read the two missions that have already been written and released. Enjoy. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 04:47, 23 March 2010 (EDT)


== Google translations ==
== Visions of Earth needs help! ==


Hey everyone! So as most of you probaly know, I am writing a fan fiction called [[User:Leckie/Visions of Earth|"''Visions of Earth''"]], currently I am needing some help with the administrative side of it. E.g. Updating character histories, abilities etc. So, I am looking for someone who is interested in helping me. There shouldn't be too much work to do considering only one episode has been released. So if anyone is interested, please respond on [[User talk:Leckie|my talk page]]! Thank you! :) --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 19:04, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
* How would people feel if I just took Google Translations out of the sidebar completely? We've got a number of localized wikis already even though only a few of them are being actively updated. The quality of the Google translations is pretty poor and might even be distracting people from wanting to work on the localized wikis. People would naturally still be able to go directly to Google and translate the site from there, but I'm thinking we may be better off not making the Google translations so prominant. Plus it'll help unclutter the sidebar a little. Any thoughts? ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 21:12, 21 September 2007 (EDT))
* At the same time, I can move the "in other languages" portlet up right below the sidebar in its place so that on pages where we have localized versions it will display those links. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 21:16, 21 September 2007 (EDT))
** Right, instead of just removing it maybe you can consider adding it to [[Heroes Wiki:Languages]] and adding a 'Translations' link to the sidebar as was done at [[BionicWiki:BionicWiki:Languages|Bionic Wiki]].--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 21:20, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
*** To be honest, the Google translations are so poor that I'm happy to just get rid of them entirely. If people use Google or Altavista or something built into their browser, then great. If not then I don't think offering them Google translations is really helping out that much considering just how unreadable the translated text is. MiamiVolts, have you tried translating the site into Spanish using Google and seeing how accurate it is by any chance? Is it understandable or just aweful? ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 21:24, 21 September 2007 (EDT))
**** So it's better to have nothing at all for the languages we don't have wiki's for? It's not perfect, but it's not so terrible either that it doesn't help. I think it helps more than you realize. For those that don't understand english, it's probably better than nothing. It also helps vice versa, and I've been using it on occasion to translate to/from Spanish words I don't know or have forgotten. If it's a very long page, I might translate it first to get a gist of it. You might also check with the users on the French, Spanish and Portugese wikis as they are doing a lot of translating and it might be helping them to do their translations.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 21:34, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
***** People are still able to use Google translations by going directly to Google, I just don't know if having the links so prominently on the site is helping or hurting. People may see them and assume that the issue of translating the articles is solved already. It could be discouraging people from contributing on the other wikis. At the same time, you could be right and it might be helping people. All the feedback I've gotten so far about the Google translations has been negative so far so I'm not sure if they're very valuable as a sidebar item anymore. Of course, I'm interested in hearing opinions. I can always change it back if we want. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 21:44, 21 September 2007 (EDT))
****** I think you misunderstood me, then. I'm fine with them not being a sidebar item, and in fact I didn't like them there. However, I do think they should remain "in" the site. So that's why I'm suggesting to add a link to 'Heroes Wiki:Languages' in the sidebar and re-add the autotranslator links there so people can know that both the autotranslator and the alternate language sites exist.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 21:52, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
******* That sounds good to me. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:14, 21 September 2007 (EDT))
**I have no problem getting rid of the Google translations. (Though while we're on the subject of the sidebar, we should probably capitalize "''Heroes'' merchandise", and make it italicized, if at all possible.) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:21, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
*** Actually, MediaWiki automatically converts the labels to lowercase and it's probably not worth the trouble to modify the code. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:29, 21 September 2007 (EDT))
****That's kinda what I figured. When I tried to fiddle with it awhile ago, nothing worked. I just wasn't sure if it was my lack of knowledge or MediaWiki's lack of flexibility. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:31, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
***** Calling the link 'Translations' makes more sense to me than Languages. Languages could just be a list of the languages spoken in ''Heroes'' the series. Can you change it?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 22:46, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
****** That makes sense to me. I'll change it. If there's some reason I'm overlooking, Admin, please change it back. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:56, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
== Google Translations Bug? ==
* Thanx, Ryan. BTW: Did I port something wrong with the links? There's a couple bugs I'm trying to figure out. The accented characters are printing correctly for me for Google translations on Bionic Wiki but here they show as gibberish. Also, the "Automatically translated" frame at the top keeps being removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:53, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
** No problem. I have no idea why those things are happening. I'm heading to bed in a few minutes, though, so I don't really have time to look at it now. Plus, I'm kind of ignorant when it comes to those questions. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:00, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
*** I just double-checked by entering both site's addresses manually at [http://www.google.com/translate_t Google translate], and I get the same results, so it's not a template problem, it's a server option problem.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:03, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
**** The "automatically translated" frame disappearing at the top is expected. Can you give me an example of where the foreign characters aren't being displayed properly? Using Google Translate there shouldn't really be anything specific to the site that would affect the display of foreign characters. If you can give me a link that doesn't appear to be working for you that'd be helpful. Also perhaps a screenshot of what you're seeing specifically. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 01:18, 22 September 2007 (EDT))
* Ok, screenshots have been sent by e-mail. It is a weird bug, imho. It works with the frame, but not without.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 02:07, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
** This only appears to be a problem in Internet Explorer and isn't limited to just this site. If you use Google Translate to translate http://cnn.com for instance it looks fine in IE until you remove the frame at the top, then the characters get all messed up. In Firefox it comes up fine. It looks like a problem with Google's tool. The Heroes Wiki automatically breaks out of any frames which is why the characters look strange by default. We're just going to have to wait for Google to fix their tool or switch the translations so they use [http://babelfish.altavista.com Altavista Babel Fish] instead. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 10:23, 22 September 2007 (EDT))
*** So I changed us over to Altavista Babelfish. Yahoo has a Babel Fish translator too, but they use an ip instead of a name address. The font is a little bigger than with Google translations, but I'd rather have bigger font than gibberish text.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:08, 22 September 2007 (EDT)


== 2.01 Four Months Later ==
== Few things that can be improved ==


Ok, first off, Great wiki, but i would improve a few things.
This just aired, where is everyone?! --[[User:SacValleyDweller|SacValleyDweller]] 01:20, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
* Out on the west coast, perhaps. :) It finished on the east coast 3 hours ago. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 01:22, 25 September 2007 (EDT))
** I'm on the east coast, too, but after watching JourneyMan now I got to come back and watch a YamagatoFellowship video and a new Hana video. Heroes 360 galore!--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:45, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
***I slapped something together on that new Hana post, but the video in it needs massively better translation services than my 2-years-and-counting rusty 3 years of Spanish can render on speach.--[[User:SacValleyDweller|SacValleyDweller]] 02:05, 25 September 2007 (EDT)


== Character Histories ==
On the Character pages, we have (example)


Claire Bennett: Claire is daughter of Nathan, but adopted daughter of Noah. She can regenerate and blah blah blah
How are we going to put [[Season One]] and [[Season Two]] into the sections in Character Histories? The issue is trying to work around the fact that we can't squeeze an H2 or H3 "Season #" heading between an H2 "Character History" and an H3 episode title. I'm certainly not in favor of changing every character page (and item and event and place page, for that matter) to fix the headings. :) So here are a few choices:


About Claire
Leave the seasons and the episodes both as H3:
<pre>==Character History==
===[[Season One]]===
<summary>
===[[Season Two]]===
===[[Four Months Later]]===
<summary>
</pre>


She lived in Texas as a cheerleader...
Put seasons and Character History as H2:
<pre>==Character History==
==[[Season One]]==
<summary>
==[[Season Two]]==
===[[Four Months Later]]===
<summary>
</pre>


Show History
Put summarized seasons as H3 and current season as H3:
<pre>==Character History==
===[[Season One]]===
<summary>
==[[Season Two]]==
===[[Four Months Later]]===
<summary>
</pre>


In Season 1 Claire discovered her ability, ran away from sylar and gets held hostage by Ted, blah blah
Leave off current season, and keep summarized season as H2:
<pre>==Character History==
===[[Season One]]===
<summary>
===[[Four Months Later]]===
<summary>
</pre>
Personally, I'd go with the last choice. I'd leave the everything as it is, and just not include the "Season Two" heading until after it's summarized. Not only is it the easiest choice (fewest changes to articles), I also think it's the most aesthetic choice. Then the History (H2) is broken down into a summary for Season One (H3) and a summary for each each episode (also H3). When we're in the middle of Season Three, it would carry through, and would still be easy and good-looking. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:38, 25 September 2007 (EDT)


In Season 2 Claire moves to Costa Verde and falls for West, blah
==Advertising Slogans==
So, I was thinking we might come up with a slogan for our Wiki to put in mine and other's sigs for when we post on other forums as an ad. Here's some I've come up with. I'm not sure which is best. Feel free to add on, correct, or let me know it's just plain too corny... ;)
* BionicWiki.com and HeroesWiki.com--making the Wiki world a little larger
* Bionic Wiki and Heroes Wiki--building a fan-run community together
* Bionic Wiki and Heroes Wiki--fan run and fan built community sites
* Bionic Wiki and Heroes Wiki--theories, spoilers, synopsis & other Wiki magic
* Bionic Wiki and Heroes Wiki--not forums, they're a Wiki phenomenon--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:50, 27 September 2007 (EDT)


Then it goes
== Chronological Order ==


In Season 3 episode 1, claire does this
I think that most pages should be written in chronological order rather than an episode-by-episode guide. For example, it would be better to say in the right beginning of the [[Claire Bennet]] page that her mother is [[Meredith Gordon]] and her father is [[Nathan Petrelli]], how she was saved from the fire and given to [[Noah Bennet]] rather than breaking down the whole information, saying that in [[Genesis]] her foster parents are [[Mr. Bennet]] and [[Sandra Bennet]], then in [[The Fix]] her mother was revealed to be [[Meredith Gordon]], then in the episode [[Distractions]] her father is revealed to be [[Nathan Petrelli]], then in [[Company Man]] she was revealed to be given to [[Noah Bennet]]. Readers can scan through unwanted information through the chronological biography. The episode-by-episode guide can still be kept for readers who want no spoilers or information from an episode.


In Season 3 episode 2, we see claire for a slit second drinking tea
For other pages that the chronological order cannot be applied, it should be changed into other formats. For example, for the article [[Suicide]], it should be done character-by-character, as Peter's "suicide attempt" arcs through at least 3 episodes ([[Genesis]] - [[One Giant Leap]]). Again, readers will be more comfortable reading the whole incident under one topic rather than finding different fragments of the same incident through different episodes subtopic. [[User:Chrisyu357|Chrisyu357]] 11:19, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
*Well, that would only mean major format changes to over 1,000 pages. :) Less glibly, we run into a problem if we can't figure out chronology. For instance, if another GN comes out about the Haitian's childhood, we're stuck since we don't know the exact year, or where in the chronology it fits with the ''[[It Takes a Village]]'' series. Same goes for [[Betty]]'s backstory. We also have the issue of multiple futures on ''Heroes''. Suppose another episode is produced which takes place five years in the future, but it's, of course, a different future than the one shown in ''[[Five Years Gone]]''--how exactly would this fit into a chronology? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:41, 15 October 2007 (EDT)


In Season 3 episode 3, claire does this and this
* If we are not sure about which incident goes first, we could begin with "Another notable incident that happened in the Haitian's childhood is...", and I'm sure we can dealt with the multiple timeline issues since we have articles for both characters from the current timeline and future characters. However, in some case, say Claire, have at least 3 possible timeline ("current" timeline, 5YG timeline, "Killed-at-Homeciming" timeline) - we can add the "real" timeline into [[Claire Bennet]], and the other two in [[Future Claire Bennet]], under two subtopics. I have to admit, however, that rewriting over 1000 articles is a extremely harsh job. :) [[User:Chrisyu357|Chrisyu357]] 05:01, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
....


Why can we not have a sweeping few paragraphs for the whole of volume 3 & 4 & 5 like we do for Season/Volume 1 & 2 rather than an episode by episode breakdown (which could be in its own article like "Claire Bennet: Season One History" and "Claire Bennet: Season Two History".)?
== Fixed bug breaking section editing when transcluding templates with sections ==


* Well, the title pretty much says it all even if it's a mouth full. If you've ever tried transcluding a template that has sections in it you may have noticed that when you subsequently tried to edit a section in the article you'd either get an error that the section didn't exist or it'd have you editing the wrong section. Unbeknownst to me until I figured it out today this was being caused by a modification I made a long time ago to automatically convert two dashes automatically into <nowiki>&mdash;</nowiki>. Now that this is fixed you'll find that section editing now works properly again even when templates define their own sections. In addition if you edit a section that has been transcluded it will take you to the section in the template itself so you can edit the appropriate content. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 17:19, 13 October 2007 (EDT))
** So two dashes don't automatically convert to the mdash anymore?--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 17:25, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
*** It will still automatically convert. I just fixed the bug that was a side-effect of that initial enhancement. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 17:28, 13 October 2007 (EDT))
** This is really cool. However, the link to the transcluded template is going to <code>&section=1</code>, which is usually the Usage section of the template (since the body of the template is usually not in a section). Can this be adjusted so the links edit the template without a <code>&section=</code>? Alternately, you could make it <code>&section=0</code>.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 18:07, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
*** It's because we're using includeonly in the templates for the first section. For it to work properly I think we're going to have to allow the first section to be defined whether it's during transclusion or not. I'm not sure how easily I could change it to display the first section and I'm not really a fan of the idea since it seems like more of a hack that could have unintended consequences. I think we're better off just making sure the section is defined in the template whether transcluded or not. By the way, do you know of an example page where it's an issue? ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 18:19, 13 October 2007 (EDT))
**** Try [[Takezo Kensei]]. Anything with Fan Theories or Spoilers will work, but he had both.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 18:48, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
***** Ok, that's what I thought you were referring to. So is there any big disadvantage to getting rid of the includeonly tags around the first section in the templates? ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 18:54, 13 October 2007 (EDT))
****** Not really. They need to be adjusted to not create redlinks on the template page. I did this for [[template:theories]] and the edit link now works fine.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 18:56, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
****** Fixed [[template:spoiler]], too. I made it so it creates a red link when included but not on the template page. Works fine now. Are they any other templates which create section headings? The appearance templates do, but they're a special case since they need to create different section headings on different articles. Otherwise, I'm drawing a blank.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 19:08, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
****** I went ahead and changed the appearance templates, too, so that section edit links would work on [[Appearances]]. Incidentally, I discovered that the template needs a non-conditional section to work with the edit link from the page on which it's transcluded, even if either case of the conditional would result in a section being added (in other words, the <nowiki>==</nowiki> need to be OUTSIDE the <code><nowiki>{{#if:}}</nowiki></code> statement for it to count as a section on the template.) Good to know. I haven't done the GN appearances because there are a ton of them and I'm a lazy bastard.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 19:56, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
* Does this mean that [[Template:Welcome]] will no longer have to be substituted? -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 03:33, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
** It probably should be anyway. Section edit bug aside, transclusion is a resource hog (though, of course, user talk pages tend to be fairly low traffic), and substituting it gives people the option to keep or delete as much or as little as they want (and to see how some Wiki markup works).--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 03:38, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
***[[Template:MQ]] is used in section headings, but I made it so it just becomes the name, not the section. I think it's best that way. [[Template:GN]] ''could'' create a section heading if one so desired, but it would mean 54 unnecessary edits, and it would lose the ability to add an additional external link on the GN pages, if we so desired. I think it's also fine as is. (Thanks for finding the bug, Admin!) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 06:36, 15 October 2007 (EDT)


And finally my second idea.
== Something wrong with the server? ==


Maybe we could have some articles on "Character X & Character Y History" Documenting the relationship between two different characters in the show history, so when two characters who do not normally meet (like Ando and Noah) there could be one article to tell us the relation and previous meeting of these characters.
I can't seem to make any changes, I'm getting a 400 Bad Request and another's not loading at all.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 10:32, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
* Must have cleared up, seems to be working.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 10:39, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
** Checked the logs and it looks like either your browser was sending some malformed requests to the server or some intermediate firewall was mangling your requests. It only seemed to be affecting you. Aren't you lucky? :) ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 10:54, 15 October 2007 (EDT))


This would need a LOT of new articles (~30 characters in Heros, meaning we would have 900 new articles) But when we are watching season 5 (hoping there will be a season 5) we can instantly track previous characters interactions even if they barely met before.
== G4 ''Post Show'' ==
[[User:Mr Hiro|Mr Hiro]] 21:01, 10 April 2010 (EDT)


EDIT: Damn it, no sooner have i finished complaining about Heroes wiki have i noticed Heroes wiki has already changed, looks like my first idea is already being implemented before i can even complain about it. Never mind, however i would still like to push my second idea. [[User:Mr Hiro|Mr Hiro]] 21:08, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
Well, I am officially the first host on the G4 ''Heroes [[Post Show]]''. Man, it's going to be cool! They have a lot of really great things planned, some of which I'm not allowed to say quite yet. All I'll say is that I think we're going to be talking about the ''Post Show'' quite a bit on this site. From what I'm gathering, we will be referencing the ''Post Show'' about as much as we reference the CBR Behind the Eclipse interviews.<p>For those of you who don't know about the ''Post Show'' or G4 yet, [[Season One]] will air in a marathon on G4 on Saturday and Sunday, October 27th & 28th at 12 pm EST. Then, there will be a mini-marathon on Saturday, November 3rd, where G4 will air all episodes of [[Season Two]] thus far (episodes 201 through 206). Finally, at 11 pm EST, the ''Post Show'' will air. (See [http://www.g4tv.com/heroes/splash.aspx here] for more information.) This is cool--it's a live and interactive segment that will feature exclusive interviews with members of the cast and crew, live viewer commentary, interactive polls, behind-the-scenes footage and a whole bunch of other stuff which I can't divulge. Even better, the episodes which air on Mondays will be repeated on Saturdays on G4 (at 10 pm EST) for those who missed it the first time around, or who just want to relive the experience. The ''Post Show'' will also air weekly, with new content, new interviews, new cast and crew members, and plenty more for us to discuss on those late Saturday nights.<p>So how can you be involved? Well, if you're in the Southern California area, you can be in the studio audience--just [[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|contact me]] and I'll make sure you get in. Not near LA? Then two other options exist for you. I believe you can go to [http://www.stickam.com/profile/heroesong4 Stickam], where you can be selected to do live videos that will air. If that doesn't work for you, then G4 is also accepting viewer mail through Stickam, where you can gush about the show, drool over Peter's pecs, salivate over Niki's assets, tell all the minutiae you noticed, and send all your wildest theories. I'm pretty psyched about being part of this, and about a new resource to give us depth into ''Heroes''. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:40, 18 October 2007 (EDT)
*So long as we don't append silly "Sythan" style names to the pages (but rather something like Connection:Nathan Petrelli and Sylar), I think this could be a really good idea. Lots of Season One's plot points revolved around stuff like this. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 21:15, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
** How would that be different from the content in [[Portal:Relationships]]?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
*** It wouldn't be a fan creation, first of all. --{{User:BoomerDay/Signature}} 01:19, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
****The only thing that's really stopping the relationships being a canon analysis is the names that we've given them. If they were renamed to ''Relationship:Hiro and Charlie'' for example, all the information and interactions come from canon sources and is canon. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 08:29, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
*****So we're basically looking at a massive move from all the corny fan creation names to "Connection/Relationship:X and Y", right?--''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 09:32, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
******I simply don't think such articles are necessary. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 09:48, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
*I agree that we don't need to duplicate/change the articles. I think the Relationship articles are okay as they are. I've grown to like having them as fan creations.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 11:28, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
** I'm also not a fan of adding 900 new articles that need to be maintained when we have a hard enough time maintaining the articles we already have in existence. So many of those silly relationship articles--which could serve the purposes stated above, despite being fan creation articles--are stubs, and are looong stubs, at that. Even the [[connections]] page could be beefed up, but that page really is rarely touched, so I'm afraid to see what would happen when we add 900 more pages like it. Ultimately, this would be a huge project, and one I'm not very excited about. If somebody would like to create it in their user space and then move it into the main namespace when it's all finished, that is something we can certainly discuss. However, I have a feeling that the massive size of this undertaking will prove overwhelming and not worth the effort. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:37, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
***That's the thing though, if it were to be done, it be a waste of memory. The relationships already exist and use only canon information. If we created these articles, the only reason they'd be canon and not fan creations is the name. As soon as we slap a fan made name on anything it becomes a fan creation. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:45, 11 April 2010 (EDT)


*This is my first time posting something here so please bear with me: I have a minor alteration request that I would like to run by the community and that is changing the character box on the right side where it says '''known ability''' to just '''ability''' because I find it a bit confusing for people we know have an ability, we just don't know what it is so ''none'' is posted, to me implying they don't have one. For the change if the character isn't an evolved human we put ''none'' and if he/she does but we don't know we put ''unknown'' Or, for example, Kaito's character bio we could put ''unk, see notes'' That's my two cents. -- [[User:Inblackestnight|Inblackestnight]] 23:57, 31 May 2010 (EDT)
* That's cool. I was contacted by an owner of another cool HEROES fansite about the fun opportunities of this HEROES Post Show. It seems like it'll be fun! [[User:'ROESian|&#39;ROESian]]
== The future is now ==
**Fun, and a great place for us to get some good inside info. I don't know how many shows I will be doing, but I kind of plan to use my time, if possible, to ask some of those nagging questions about ''Heroes'' and just to glean some good trivia heretofore unrevealed. I'm pretty psyched about the whole deal. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:13, 19 October 2007 (EDT)


It's only just now occurred to me. Assuming Heroes gets picked up for a fifth (and almost certainly final) season, and if they're smart enough to fast forward through most of 2010, we'll actually get a look at the dreaded year 2011, when everything seems to go wrong. I wonder how they'll choose to address that? --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 12:25, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
== "Wrestler" page needs deleted. ==
*Well everything has been leading there since the beginning, so it would seem. Especially with Claire's most recent actions... --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 23:49, 20 April 2010 (EDT)


== Fans of The 4400 ==
[[Wrestler|This page]] needs to be deleted since there is already a page about the wrestler in question. --[[User:Avenger29|Avenger]] 05:22, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
* No, actually. [[Wrestler]] is the page for the character. [[Oscar Gutierrez]] is the page for the actor. It seems odd, since he was playing himself, but it's the same as having two articles for [[Hiro]] and [[Masi Oka]].--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 05:23, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
* Incidentally, since it's bound to come up: the reason the character is "wrestler" and not Rey Mysterio is that he's not explicitly identified as Rey Mysterio in the episode. Yes, it's obviously him. Yes, it's just stock footage. But we can't assume that the ''character that footage represents'' in the world of ''Heroes'' is called Rey Mysterio just because the wrestler ''in the real world'' is called Rey Mysterio. This is similar to how in ''Heroes'' it's the Las Vegas Police Department but in the real world it's the Las Vegas ''Metropolitan'' Police Department. Another analogy would be the pictures of Peter that Nathan looks at: in reality, they're real-life pictures from Milo Ventimiglia's childhood, but as far as the show's concerned, they're pictures of Peter--i.e. real-world photos of one person were used to represent a fictional person. The wrestler Micah and Damon watch could be called "Sue" for all we know, even though footage of Rey Mysterio was used. So we have a character called [[wrestler]], who is represented by stock footage of Rey Mysterio, who is portrayed in the real world by [[Oscar Gutierrez]].--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 05:40, 22 October 2007 (EDT)


Did any of you watch this ''fantastic'' show that ran from 2004 to 2007? Since activity on Heroes Wiki has slowed dramatically, I've decided to spread my wings: I've taken over [http://4400.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page The 4400 Wiki] as an administrator and I've been working on the site for a couple of weeks now. We're still in the very early stages, and very few articles have been written, so any help we can get is appreciated. Any fans of this show may contribute, although admittedly Wikia's interface takes a bit of getting used to. And to those who haven't watched this show, I strongly recommend you do. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 09:11, 6 May 2010 (EDT)
Actually, I remember the announcer at one point saying "Mysterio goes for the 619!" or something to that effect. I'll have to rewatch the episode to make sure, but I'm about 90% sure that he was identified.--[[User:Avenger29|Avenger]] 18:38, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
* I loved ''The 4400''. I thought it was a very under appreciated show. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:08, 6 May 2010 (EDT)
*No, Damon says "Here comes the 619!"--[[User:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>Bob</font>]] {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Baldbobbo| (<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Baldbobbo&action=edit&section=new message]</span>) | ([[User talk:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>talk</font>]]) }} 18:42, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
The heroes Interactive says it's Rey Mysterio. [[User:Rayhond|Rayhond]] 18:57, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
** Definitely Ryan, me too. --{{User:Janrodrigo/sig}} 04:42, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
*** Yeah 4400 was great....except when season 3 rolled around, and Mohinder and everyone began injecting themselves with [[The formula|Promicin]]. (oops). <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 05/7/2010 13:14 (EST)</small>
* Or given it's just a shot from some footage and he's not a real character/actor within Heroes we can get rid of the pages entirely. There's little point in giving them their own articles. They're just as easily linked to Wikipedia. I think we're not being selecting enough about what gets its own article anymore and instead every little insignificant thing is winding up with its own article. It's cruft and is unnecessary. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 19:08, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
** Are we low on server space? I don't mind linking to Wikipedia for, say, real-life information about Tokyo, or Cadillacs, or whatever. But we still have our own articles for [[Tokyo]] and [[Jessica's Cadillac]] as they appear in the world of ''Heroes''. I don't see how this wrestler is different. Granted, I didn't initially think there was any reason to make an article for him, but I don't think it hurts us. And he's above the threshold of, say, [[tuning fork]].--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 19:29, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
*** If I were to say yes we're low would it help prevent this cruft? That [[tuning fork]] article is cruft, too. I don't know why we have these separate articles for people/places/things that are so insignificant within the show. Surely it's beneficial to mention them somewhere (such as the tuning fork would be mentioned briefly in character summaries and the episode synopsis where it was used), but why do we have a whole article on it? Why do we not create an article for Doc Brown because Hiro said "Great Scott!" once? It's just not necessary and isn't the kind of article that should exist at a Heroes wiki. It's scope creep and just isn't necessary. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 19:36, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
**** -Coughs very loudly---[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 19:40, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
**** The argument above is not that the article is trivial, but that it's a double article since both [[Oscar Gutierrez]] and the [[wrestler]] have articles. The article ''is'' trivial, but I don't think there's anything wrong with it. If anything I believe it makes us more legit--on numerous occasions, I have searched for things on [[lostpedia:]] and [[memoryalpha:]] that occur very infrequently on the show, and have been excited when the article is there, and disappointed when it's not. I also wouldn't discount the footage as just being stock footage. NBC likely had to pay for the rights to use it (though I don't profess to know the legalities of such matters). And in this case, the character was mentioned in [[Heroes Interactive (The Kindness of Strangers}|]]; his counterpart, the [[cooking show host]], was actually credited. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:41, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
***** If you search for it you would still get results within the page text which is sufficient. It's not feasible to have a separate article for every single thing that someone would search for, so it doesn't make sense to have an article just for the sake of searches (since the page text results would be returned anyway). My point was the original point should be moot since I think we should just delete both articles and link to Wikipedia's info for Oscar and Rey since niether require their own separate article at this point. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 19:48, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
****** I'm ambivalent about objects and items, but there's something about chronicling every character which seems important to me. Characters with much less screen time and much less visibility have been credited. I think it's a slippery slope when we start deciding which characters and which actors merit their own article and which should just be linked to externally. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:59, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
******* I don't consider him to be a character since he wasn't acting for the show in any way, but I can definitely see how he could be considered one. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 20:05, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
******** ''since he wasn't acting for the show in any way'' -louder cough- =P--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 20:06, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
********* What's your point, Riddler? ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 20:07, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
********** Lol, nothing, I just like how my original points are coming back. Some of the stuff you said in your big post were thigns I've said before. =P--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 20:09, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
*********** Oh, I didn't see your original points. Yeah, my personal view is that he's not a character in Heroes, he's just a wrestling character who's part of some footage that was shown in the show. Just like if Molly watches Sesame Street I won't consider Big Bird to be a character in Heroes. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 20:13, 22 October 2007 (EDT))
************ But if Molly then [[clairvoyance|found Big Bird's true location]], the argument would be made that he really ''is'' a character on the show--especially if he's credited or mentioned on the NBC site. Why not the same for the wrestler? Not only did Micah use [[technopathy|his power]] to bring the wrestler's image on TV, but Monica watched him at length (and had that cool reflection of him in her eye) and then [[photographic reflexes|copied]] his signature move. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:17, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
************* That would be fun if Molly located, say, the Nightmare Man near Kirby Plaza, though the map location was in L.A. for [http://www.publicartinla.com/Downtown/figueroa/ascension.html Bayer's Double Ascension]. :) Just kiddin'. ;) [[User:'ROESian|&#39;ROESian]]
*********** And I continue to disagree with Admin just as much as I disagreed with you. :) --[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 20:12, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
******* I guess we have a different idea about what constitutes "cruft". I'll take an article for a character, however trivial, who has actually appeared, over an article like [[Adam Monroe]] (who has only been mentioned in a licensed video game) or any of the journal people (who only exist in barely readable screenshots from a handful of frames from a single episode) any day. We know more about this wrestler than any of them (for one thing, that he actually exists and has a portrayer), and he's been far more important to the plot than any of them has been so far.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 20:16, 22 October 2007 (EDT)


== File ==
== You guys ever check the Alexa rankings? ==


Hey guys, I just find a really good ''Microsoft Excel'' file about Heroes, [http://www.adrive.com/public/91795810808ef7b1508ac2ba89c7cfcc3a10b1ef1e379e0f2f82ad9fe352f2de.html this is the link]. There are written all the evolved humans, all the abilities, all the primatech files, a timeline for the Company. All this things there are also on this wiki, but I think you shold look at it. :) (P.S.: You should have installed ''Microsoft Excel'' for read this file'') --{{User:Tanderix/sign}}14:30, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
http://alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=heroeswiki.com
Out of all the websites on the internet, I'd say this site is doing pretty damned good. =]--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 00:04, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
* I can't see it, it comes up with something you have to buy. --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 14:34, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
** Didn't appear this: "Your file download should start immediately.
* I do check them from time to time for fun, but who needs their estimates when I publish the [[Heroes_Wiki:Site_Statistics|real information]]? :) ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 00:07, 23 October 2007 (EDT))
If it does not start automatically, please click here to start the download process.
** True, but this compares with other sites as well, and I'd say the number (which I believe is getting better) is pretty good. =P--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 00:10, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
Signature and Premium users never have to wait in line to get any public file, so sign up and sign in now and you won't ever have to wait again!"? --[[User:Tanderix|Tanderix]] 14:39, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
*I was able to see it, where did you get it? Cuz it has a '''''LOT''''' of information, but it's not all acurate (it says Lydia's ability is Clairvoyance, for example) and it doesn't look very official. --[[User:Skullman1392|Skullman1392]] 17:27, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
** I found it in a 9th Wonders (site) post. I know, it isn't perfect, I changed it on my PC. ;)--[[User:Tanderix|Tanderix]] 14:08, 12 May 2010 (EDT)


== Power Image Cats? ==
== New Wiki Project ==


Hello everyone :) I have recently started a new wiki over at [http://thelightningtheif.wikia.com/wiki/Percy_Jackson_Wiki Wikia], about the Percy Jackson series. If anyone is able to help it would be muchly appreciated! :) I hope to be editing with some of you over there. The wiki is currently in '''''very''''' early stages, I only just made it, and any help would be great! Thanks! :D --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 14:20, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
*Are we going to make image cats for all of the powers, for example Category:Images of Electromagnetism? Because if we are, I'd be more than happy to get it going.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 08:11, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
* There's another Percy Jackson wiki on wikia, [http://percyjackson.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page It's here] :P. --{{User:Jenx222/sig4}} 15:53, 12 May 2010 (EDT)</span>
** [[:Category:Powers Images]] is what we use.--[[User:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>Bob</font>]] {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Baldbobbo| (<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Baldbobbo&action=edit&section=new message]</span>) | ([[User talk:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>talk</font>]]) }} 10:16, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
** I'm sorry to be the one pointing this out but it's "'''thief'''" not "theif". --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 03:59, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
***Okay. I asked because I thought it might be good to separate them into sub-categories. A lot of work, yes, but it would make it easier to search for images. Fair enough, though.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 10:19, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
****Well, a while back, I went ahead and made the Cats for the main characters. My only issue with subcategories is a) making a category for something like liquification that only has one or two images, or b) when we have these long debates about names of abilities and renaming occurring so often. For example, Monica's ability was named something, then moved at least four times since last week. So I just don't feel too good about having people then making a bunch of categories that aren't necessary, yanno? But for some of the more established abiities (telekinesis, telepathy, empathic mimicry), I wouldn't have a problem with that. Just adjust the [[:Template:image-screenshot]] to take parameters for the powers and that sounds like a good idea. (If you decide to do this, make sure to add some nicknames to the template, like "regeneration" instead of "rapid cell regeneration" or "stm" instead of "space-time manipulation"...my two cents). I'm sure you'll get help if you decide to embark on this.--[[User:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>Bob</font>]] {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Baldbobbo| (<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Baldbobbo&action=edit&section=new message]</span>) | ([[User talk:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>talk</font>]]) }} 12:07, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
*****You make good points, and I get what you're saying. I'll get to work doing it if other people say it's a good idea....--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 12:10, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
******Sounds good. I'll help when I can. I know when I did the character cats, I did it on a weekend since most people will be around to help. I'll help, but I work and have school, so I dunno how available I'll be. But if you want to hold out until the weekend, that sounds good. That way you can get some feedback. I like the idea, and it will definitely help when doing example pages for powers. I'd suggest any powers that are in this [[:Template:Examples|template]].--[[User:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>Bob</font>]] {{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Baldbobbo| (<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Baldbobbo&action=edit&section=new message]</span>) | ([[User talk:Baldbobbo|<font color=#0F004D>talk</font>]]) }} 12:15, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
*******I got a week off, which is why I'm on so much! But sure, I can wait.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 12:18, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
******** I personally don't see any need for it. I mean, if somebody wants an image that shows electromagnetism, [[examples of electromagnetism]] should have every image, is much more organized, and includes a brief description of each image. Changing the title of a page (which happens often with the newer powers) is not that big a deal--it only really requires tweaks to about 4 or 5 pages. Changing the name of a category is a much bigger deal because every image needs to be updated, and then the old category needs to be deleted. I know [[:Category:Powers]] is huge, but I'm not a fan of splitting it due to the mercurial nature of the names of some of our powers. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:38, 24 October 2007 (EDT):(
*********Oh yeah, I forgot about the examples pages. Fair dues.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 15:40, 24 October 2007 (EDT)


== NBC 'Fan It' Program Begins May 17, New Ad Campaign ==
==2000th Article!==
NBC will be starting a new affinity program later today, May 17, called "Fan It". I'm hoping that there might be something related to ''Heroes'' in the program, though I wouldn't place good odds on it. You can read about it on the NBCUMV website, at [http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_display/news/digital-downloads/broadband/e3i8f23a69d15c6258db333f7f2648d8789 MediaWeek], or [http://thingfo.com/in-the-news/75-nbc-unveils-unprecedented-network-wide-affinity-program-fan-it-utilizing-social-media-to-reward-its-most-dedicated-fans.html ThingFo]. According to the press release, it will be "allowing visitors to earn points by watching videos, chatting about shows, and sharing content with friends. The program requires fans to sign up to participate at [http://www.NBC.com/fanit http://www.NBC.com/fanit], though they can do so using their existing Facebook, Twitter, MySpace or MyNBC accounts.
We should probably write a small news about that! We reached 2K articles :) --{{User:FrenchFlo/sig}} 15:55, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
*It happened somewhere in the middle of the night as [[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] was retooling the [[Heroes 360]] pages. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:11, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
**Thank God it wasn't [[Carla]].--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 16:12, 25 October 2007 (EDT)


As people accumulate points, they will be able to redeem them for various prizes, such as access to a yet-to-premiere series, NBC merchandise and entries to sweepstakes. To execute the Fan It program, NBC has partnered with the social media tracking company ThingFo Inc."
== navbar ==


Also, "the network will kick off an ad blitz that includes a whopping 19 Microsoft properties and partners, ranging from MSN to Bing to Glo to various Xbox games. As part of the elaborate sponsorship package—which will run through Sept. 20—NBC and Microsoft have collaborated on “Preview to Fall TV” microsite within MSN TV. In addition, NBC will promote its new lineup via Wonderwall, Windows Messenger, and various mobile and social media platforms."--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:05, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
Keeping the navbar at the bottom might be the way it's done on other pages, but it messes up the layout when a new comment is added. Plus, I kind of like it at the top for a non-content page. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:43, 27 October 2007 (EDT)
* Yeah, I liked it at the top, too. And the way it avoided problems when new sections were added was very nice, too. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 23:47, 27 October 2007 (EDT))


== Comic-Con 2008 ==
== Fall Line-up ==
Well, the Fall Preview is up at nbc.com. It looks like ''Heroes'' lost to a show called ''The Event'', that's trying really hard to be some kind of ''Lost''/''Flashforward'' show... gotta be honest, looking at the line-up, I think NBC is going to get flattened this year. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 09:36, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
*Yeah, nothing looks particularly interesting other than Chuck. What could happen is, if none of these new shows get much viewings, NBC might bring back Heroes, or give them a few years out then bring them back, because although the fan base is small, it is a solid fan base. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 10:47, 17 May 2010 (EDT)


== Keeping the Graphic Novels going. ==
Comic-Con 2008 is Thu, July 24 to Sun, July 27 at the San Diego Convention Center. (Registration [http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_reg.shtml here]).


NBC wants to know whether they should keep the graphic novels going. They've got [http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?showtopic=71407&hl= a thread going on 9th Wonders], so I suggest we all head over there and let them know that we are still wanting the GNs. Thanks guys.--[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 06:51, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
* Since the Comic-Con 2007 registration filled up early I took the precaution of registering early for Comic-Con 2008 so I should be there this year. If anyone else is interested in going I recommend registering early because they have a tendency to fill up quickly. Plus apparently hotels in the area fill up quickly and it was already difficult to find one nearby without having to pay both arms and both legs (it already costs an arm and a leg). As the conference gets closer I'd like to get a better idea who looks like they'll be going and I'd be happy to bring extra [[:Image:Are_you_on_the_wiki2.jpg|t-shirts]] for people who will be there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 00:48, 29 October 2007 (EDT))


== Now here's an idea... ==
== Season 4 DVD ==
Is there? I'd love to know what was cut from Season 4. {{User:Altes/Signature}} 07:09, 14 June 2010 (EDT)
*I think it'd be good for us to have somewhere where we can discuss the episode that's just aired. After all, we're all fans of the show, and everyone has their own theories! I know we do do some discussion on talk pages, but then people post stuff about the page itself, and it can be a bit confusing. But if there was a place we could actually all discuss the episode, it'd be cool. And it could be named after something in the show, like, I dunno, The Loft, perhaps, or something similar. I suppose this sort of links in with the forum idea I read someone suggest a while back. Anyhow, yeah, just a thought.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 12:44, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
* Me too, I really hope there is. I also wanna know what they thought wasn't good enough for the episodes! :L (God I'm sadistic) --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 07:11, 14 June 2010 (EDT)
** Heroes Wiki isn't a forum. That's why I post some of my thoughts at IMDb.com (that's a forum). There's also 9th and 10th wonders forums. If you have a specific comment that will help document the show, I think it belongs on the episode talk page. If you have a theory about something specific, you can add it in the theory namespace.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:06, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
*** Fair dues, but I'm not saying this is a forum. I'm saying I think it might be good to have something similar. What's the point in joining 9th Wonders or whatever and having to join a whole new community when you're part of one on this site?--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 13:08, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
**** Cause it helps bring new visitors to the site when you talk about it on other sites? Word of mouth advertising can be much for effective than the advertising Admin pays so much money for. At least, that's my theory as to why Admin doesn't add a forum here. Heh, but I'm pretty sure Admin will answer for himself.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:14, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
***** My reasons for not adding a forum are because: 1) Heroes forums are a dime a dozen. The world doesn't need yet another when there are good large ones out there already. 2) It would probably distract people from the wiki itself. 3) We can focus on what we do best. We run an excellent wiki that's only gaining in popularity. Let others who are experienced at running forums run the forums.<br />That being said I'm not opposed to a "loft" or "water cooler" area where people can be a little more chatty than they might on the article discussion pages, though this page is already somewhat for that. I just personally don't see a big need for a separate forum especially when many of us already frequent other boards like imdb or 9thwonders.com. While you can implement a forum as a series of wiki articles it tends to be more clumsy to maintain and lacks some of the nicities that people will expect out of a forum (and as a result it won't attract as many people and won't be as popular). ([[User:Admin]] 14:44, 2 November 2007 (EDT))
******I never said forum. I just meant a wiki page, like, I dunno, '''Chat:The Line''' or something; a page where people can go to discuss informally an episode or whatever. I know a forum would be pointless, totally get that. And now I just read your second point, which I understand also. It was just a thought.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 14:54, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
******* Yeah, if people really wanted one it would happen since it's essentially just a new set of articles and anyone could create them. :) I don't think there's been a great deal of interest in it because we're not too restrictive about what goes on discussion pages so people just mention the stuff there instead. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 15:19, 2 November 2007 (EDT))
******** I don't think it's a bad idea. But instead of "Chat:The Line", don't we have [[Episode talk:The Line]]? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:13, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
*********As I said earlier, I feel it may be good to have a distinction between wiki talk pages (which, generally, should be for page discussion), and actually episode (and character, and whatever else) discussion. But hey, I'm happy with whatever.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 04:52, 3 November 2007 (EDT)


== Tim Kring launches new ARG with Nokia ==
==Stupid writers or whatever strike!==
It's called the Conspiracy for Good, and you can find out more info. about it including how to sign up at [http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1426084 http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1426084] and [http://www.conspiracyforgood.com/ http://www.conspiracyforgood.com/]. It looks like it's not Heroes-related, but I thought it worth mentioning. It begins Mid-July 2010.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 10:48, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
What the heck is this stupid thing that threatens to end Heroes? Would some one mind explaining to me what it is?--[[User:Dylankidwell|The Empath]] 17:06, 4 November 2007 (EST)
* The writer's union is going on strike because their contract has expired. The big sticking points include royalties for online sales, online streaming ad revenue, and compensation for work for websites. It's industry-wide, but affects different shows differently. Reality TV, which is (officially at least) "unscripted", shouldn't be affected at all. Scheduled films with existing scripts should be able to proceed just fine, as should most shows which have completed scripts waiting to film. Unfortunately for ''Heroes'', all of its writers are also producers, so even if they have unfilmed scripts ready to go, they likely won't be able to film them. Incidentally, last time this happened in the 80s, lots of shows attempted to proceed anyway. ''ST:TNG'', for example, tried to adapt left-over scripts from the original series and film some cheap-ass clip shows (which is what a lot of sitcoms did). The results were pretty awful.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 17:19, 4 November 2007 (EST)
** Another thing the writers appear to want is more revenue for DVD sales. This strike could have happened in 2004, but then the Directors' Guild accepted a deal that included better pension and health insurance benefits, instead of DVD and other electronic media subsidies, that the writers felt they had to go along with. Thus, the networks and studios have known for a while this strike could be coming. Here's some sites you can check into for more info. about the strike:
**# Alliance of Motion Pictures and Television Producers (AMPTP)--this is the organization that contracts writers from the WGA to work for the networks and movie studios: http://www.amptp.org/
**#LA Times article about some of the shows to be affected: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-striketvgrid-html,0,7606966.htmlstory?coll=la-home-center
**#Hollywood Reporter article explaining the situation and what happened 3 years ago: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ia9c51f5ef29150aa4498841d01bc0687
**#NY Times article explaining that the networks/studios have only tried to negotiate this for the past 3 months: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/business/media/02cnd-hollywood.html?em&ex=1194148800&en=9015c8b4b5f53f4f&ei=5087%0A
**#Kristin's E-Online article containing info. on how the strike may affect Heroes (article covers the series, how it affects Heroes 360 is unknown): http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=dcc84c3f-fa04-4fca-890e-8dba4a5dd7ba
**#Website of the Writers Guild of America, West: http://www.wga.org/
**#Website of the Writers Guild of America, East: http://www.wgaeast.org/
**#Blogspot Strike-related Writers Blog: http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/
***Hope that helps you understand some more about what's going on.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:09, 4 November 2007 (EST)
****It's also important to remember that this is a decision from the Writers Guild of America, not the [[Portal:Writers|writers]] of ''[[Heroes]]''. Since they are members of the union, they must follow the strike, should it occur, regardless of their opinion of what should or shouldn't happen. It kind of reminds me of the union to which I belong--I'm a teacher. If my union goes on strike, so d I. What complicates things is that I might agree with the strike, but not want to see my students suffer--much the same way that many of the ''Heroes'' writers might agree with the principles of the strike, but they don't want to see their show suffer. Food for thought. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:19, 4 November 2007 (EST)
***** That's true. One advantage ''Heroes'' has, though, is that it is an international show and it could, if it so desired, contract writers from overseas to write the graphic novels. Such writers are not members of the WGA so will not be on strike. On a site note, the WGA gives its members the option to resign their membership and become 'financial core' members. Said 'financial core' members do not lose any financial benefits by resigning their membership (they don't lose any pension or health insurance benefits), and can return to work during a strike. However, said members cannot be elected an officer of the WGA and can no longer vote in the WGA.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:26, 4 November 2007 (EST)
****** Oh god, we are going to be left with Reality Television *shiver*--[[User:Dylankidwell|The Empath]] 18:50, 4 November 2007 (EST)
******* Even reality television requires writers to make the script for the host(s). Assuming the strike lasts long enough, we may get to see re-runs of ''M.A.S.H.'', ''Lavern and Shirley'', ''The A-Team'' and ''Magnum PI''....maybe even the original ''Bionic Woman''...--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:55, 4 November 2007 (EST)
== Strike Photo ==
* [http://bp3.blogger.com/_U0RrekCyOqc/RzQvT-lCojI/AAAAAAAAAAM/EW4pY8omlHU/s1600-h/StrikeHeroes.jpg Check it!] -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:28, 10 November 2007 (EST)
** Ah, Sendhil. Who else can stand around all day on a picket line and still take a snapshot that looks like a professional headshot? He could probably fall into a pig sty and still look completely put-together.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 00:16, 11 November 2007 (EST)
*** Greg looks put-together too. When was this photo taken?--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:25, 11 November 2007 (EST)


== Strike? ==
== Heroes Once Again ==


Now that Heroes has ended, I decided to do as if it was being published again or to recreate all contents of Heroes especially the Heroes 360 and Heroes Evolutions (including MySpace pages, blogs, graphic novels, iStories, webisodes etc.) in the exact same order it was done four years ago back in 2006. I've opened a Google group page called "[http://groups.google.com/group/reexperienceheroes?hl=en Reexperience Heroes]" where all the announcements about new episode airing, new graphic novel released etc. will be done. And the dates and hours it happened four years from now, will be exactly the same. So, today is July 21 2010, in the Reexperience Heroes we're in July 21 '''2006'''. Therefore we already have the MySpace pages of [http://www.myspace.com/clairebennetrh Claire] and [http://www.myspace.com/zachtothefuturerh Zach]. Those who are interested can join the google group also add Claire and Zach as a friend and write comments :) --{{User:Janrodrigo/sig}} 07:38, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
*Does anybody else think we should have something about the strike somewhere? I know we have a news link in the main page, but that, essentially, is all speculation; besides, to understand that you need to have some background knowledge on the strike itself. I don't really know if it merits a page or not; just throwing something into the mix...--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 09:03, 5 November 2007 (EST)
**Right now, the strike is just impending. If it actually occurs, I don't think it needs its own page because it's not really a part of ''Heroes''. It would be like writing an article about TiVo since a lot of people watch ''Heroes'' using TiVo. However, if the strike occurs, it would definitely need to be mentioned on the article about [[Season Two]], if it interrupts the season. ''[[Heroes: Origins]]'' already mentions it, I believe, for the same reason. If we suddenly get five episodes in a week (which won't happen) because of the strike, then each of those episode pages would have a note that said something about the reason the episode was shown in an odd order. In other words, the strike (if it occurs) is best left mentioned on related pages, not as an article itself. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:01, 5 November 2007 (EST)
***As far as I know, the strike has started already. I'm a member of the [http://forum.lostpedia Lostpedia Forums] and we've been keeping up-to-date with news reports about the strike. The thread can be found [http://forum.lostpedia.com/showthread.php?t=7859 here].--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 13:06, 5 November 2007 (EST)
**** Lost Soul is correct. Check the websites 6 &amp; 7 above that I listed for the WGA. According to them, the strike started this morning. They list the picket locations. See official WGAE press release: http://www.wgaeast.org/index.php/articles/1017?wgra=1#wga1017 --[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:40, 5 November 2007 (EST)
*****As for the link from got-heroes that the season is over, this is incorrect. If you read the interview and others, Kring said if the strike isn't that long, they will continue with the season. Otherwise, they'll use Ep. 11 to end Volume Two, go on hiatus until the strike ends, then continue with Volume Three afterwards.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 16:56, 5 November 2007 (EST)


== BTE at CBR ==
== Past tense ==


Now that Heroes has ended, should we put articles into past tense? Episodes articles should stay present tense for the plots, as these should be read as though the reader is describing the show as it happens. For character articles, I think it would be best if they were all in past tense, but for crew and actor articles, they should ''all'' be in past tense as is is unlikely than many of us will be checking up one every one of there careers. But before I do anything I want to see what others say. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 18:54, 6 August 2010 (EDT)
What time do the questions and answers generally get posted?--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 15:06, 5 November 2007 (EST)
* No, I don't think so. The articles are written from the perspective of happening at the moment. Think of it as watching it on the DVD, if needed. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:47, 17 August 2010 (EDT)
* It usually shows up between now and 5pm eastern.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 15:10, 5 November 2007 (EST)
** Woot! I'm in! But neither of the questions that had importance were answered x.x--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 17:00, 5 November 2007 (EST)
*** To be honest, I'm not surprised. They've never really answered a direct question like "what is this power called?" before.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 17:36, 5 November 2007 (EST)


== Something every single one of you may be interested in (though unrelated to Heroes) ==
==Power... ummm... replication? sharing? coincidence?==
Just a thought, but shouldn't we have a page covering the fact of multiple heroes with the same power? I know we have [[power heredity]], but this is two people sharing the same power (not a kid of an [[evolved human]]), related or not.


Hey guys, it's been a while. Figured I'd pop in and give you all a heads up about a show I just discovered that's caught my interest.
This is a big thing about the powers this season (from what I've read). Some interesting notes:
It's a documentary show on the History Channel called Stan Lee's Superhumans. Basically the show is run by Stan Lee, who sends Daniel Browning Smith, a man who is considered to be the most flexible man in the world. He searches out humans across the world who are rumored to have "Super Powers", he witnesses them do their thing, and then he tries to find an explanation for the phenomenon. The first episode, for example, had a man who is [[electrical absorption|able to absorb or conduct electrical current without sustaining any harm]]; a man who's brain works faster than a calculator; a 5'6" man able to [[Super strength|snap steel, bend metal, and hold a motorcycle back with his hands]], and a blind man who can navigate via echolocation. Another episode featured a man who could punch with more lethal force than a 30+MPH car crash. It's wild stuff, and though Heroes was a drama show, I'm sure enough of us are fans of Super Humans in general, so I'm positive most of you would enjoy it. Anyway, hope all is well here. :)--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 01:52, 14 August 2010 (EDT)
* Three [[Electromagnetism|electromagnetists]], two [[Flight|flyers]], two [[Telepathy|telepaths]], two [[Rapid Cell Regeneration|regenerators]], two, uh, [[pyrokinesis|pyrokineticists]], two [[electronic data transception|transceptors]], maybe two [[Healing|healers]]... (plus some "kinda, sorta, background" people sharing powers, like "Transportation")
* [[Claude]] implied there were more [[empathic mimicry|empaths]].
* Obversely, when presented with information on an [[invisibility|invisible man]], [[Noah|Bennet]] immediately concluded it was Claude (Interesting, given that we now know he knew of two flyers by then).


== Kaito Nakamura does have an abillity. ==
The only thing that might be a problem would be the name...--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] 20:41, 7 November 2007 (EST)
* I was thinking about this the other day, and I'd be curious to see how an article develops. Why don't you write something up in your user namespace. Maybe call it something simple and direct like "User:Tim Thomason/Powers with multiple users". Personally, I wouldn't include Sylar or Peter in the list, but it looks like you already thought of that. Let me know if you need any help or have any questions. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:45, 7 November 2007 (EST)


I was watching the bonus dvd from season 2 and i noticed something in the deleted scenes.
== What does one do about that? ==


He hase the abillity to see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome.
What do you do when you leave a message for someone to stop doing something, and all they do is delete it from their talk page with no answer or anything, and they just continue on with what they were doing? (See [[User:Shadowulf1]])

--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 21:12, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Ando: Like a computer?
* I restored the message and asked Shadowwulf1 not to delete discussions from talk pages. As for the fan powers page, I suggest just ignoring it. It will be going away soon eventually so any edits to it don't really matter. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 21:16, 7 November 2007 (EST))
Kaito: I'm faster. How do you think i've done so well in the stock market?

--[[User:StephanOtter|StephanOtter]] 15:53, 5 November 2010
* This has been mentioned several times, it has also been noted in the [[Kaito Nakamura#Notes|Notes section]] on Kaito's page. Also... since it was only shown in a deleted scene it is not official, meaning we can't class it as his ability, unfortunately. --{{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 14:09, 5 November 2010 (EDT)

== I miss you guys ==

Does anyone still edit around here (except for good old Ryan)? I've just spent half an hour browsing through the articles and discussions on this site out of boredom, and I've been feeling small blasts of nostalgia and a lingering sadness that ''Heroes'' has forever ended and, really, so has our little community of Heroes Wiki editors. The Event Wiki just doesn't seem to have picked up the same momentum that we had around here. Anyway, this is also a sort of shout-out to all those Heroes Wiki editors I've met and worked with throughout the years, since I never really said a proper thank-you. And hopefully, the next time a highly-anticipated superhero TV series premieres, I'll see you all again. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 03:05, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
* *sniff* Hey, Radicell. Good to see you around. Yeah, I'm not sure why The Event Wiki hasn't taken off, and more specifically I'm not sure why Heroes Wiki fostered such a neat community. I've been tangentially part of a few other wiki communities -- for shows I've enjoyed more -- and I never felt the same kind of camaraderie as I felt on HW. It's pretty cool to be part of something successful and quality like this site, and I miss it too. :) Ah, such is life... -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:07, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

== Alphas ==

I know very few people are going to read this, but for the ones who do, there's a new show airing on Syfy called ''[[wikipedia:Alphas|Alphas]]'' that has grabbed my attention. It seems similar to ''Heroes'' in many respects and I've been impressed by the pilot episode. Just a note for anyone who's interested: there's an [http://alphas.wikia.com/wiki/Alphas_Wiki Alphas Wiki] that looks like it'd be fun to edit. --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 23:13, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
* Cool, thanks! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:27, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

== This made me smile ==

So I was reading [http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/6550/dan_houser_on_how_rockstar_does_it.php this interview] with Rockstar Games' founder, Dan Houser. Look at the last question on the last page.

'''It's funny. I spoke with Tim Kring, the creator of the TV show Heroes, earlier this year, and even that show had so much mythology going on he said that the writers lost track. But thankfully, the fans were so obsessive they had basically put together a wiki, and the writers were pulling information from that.'''

DH: We do the same. I would be very surprised if anyone working on a long running thing like this that is popular these days isn't. The wiki is pretty good. For some of the older games, where I just want to remember a particular person's name or a particular brand or something, it's probably in our records, but some of the details stuff from the wiki is amazing and we love it.

--[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 17:55, 8 January 2012 (EST)
* That's great! Thanks, Radicell! Here's [https://twitter.com/#!/TVMoJoe/status/23082631071531008 a tweet] on the original interview. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:11, 10 January 2012 (EST)
** I love this :) -- {{User:Leckie/Signature 10}} 14:49, 26 January 2012 (EST)

== Binge ==

Hey, everybody. The websites TV Binges & Primatech Files are going to do a ''Heroes'' binge on September 6 from 1:00 to 9:00 pm. They will be watching the episodes ''{{ep|101}}'', ''{{ep|117}}'', ''{{ep|120}}'', ''{{ep|123}}'', ''{{ep|201}}'', ''{{ep|323}}'', and ''{{ep|418}}''. (What a great list!) It'll be a neat fan community event on Twitter. Details can be found [http://tvbinges.com/binge/official-binge-page/ at this link]. Just thought I'd pass this along! :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:55, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

== Animated Gifs and 9thwonders.com ==

[[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] asked on [[Talk:Hachiro's ability]] about having a gif of Hachiro's ability being used to materialize Katana Girl (transform her into a physical person), and after I added some [[Hachiro's ability#Examples|screenshots]] to the ability page Sandubadear told me on my talk page that the desire was really for a moving gif. As I am not comfortable making a moving gif for this ability, I asked Admin about making it, whether it was okay to do so here/elsewhere and if the wiki should have a policy on animated gifs in general for our documentation, etc., and noting that I saw some abilities animated like Tommy's in the new Tumblr blogs shown on the revised [//9thwonders.com 9thwonders.com] site. Admin pointed me to this community portal for my questions.

The wiki has had a [[:Category:Animations|category for Animations]] for a while, but we use them only sparingly in articles (most animations don't work inside a gallery). Hopefully, if this is allowed, someone else can help Sandubadear out.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:12, 9 November 2015 (EST)
* Used sparingly, it's allowed, especially for something like showing how an ability's special effect is displayed. I can't help with making the animation though. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:13, 9 November 2015 (EST)
** I agree, and I also do not make animated gifs. Should any more be created I would just suggest that they try to limit to the fewest number of frames necessary to accurately demonstrate the idea in question. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin|talk]]) 20:46, 9 November 2015 (EST))
** Thanks, hopefully someone else will volunteer to help Sandubadear out. Regarding the blogs, for reference, there is the [//nbcheroes.tumblr.com/ NBC Heroes Reborn Tumblr blog (nbcheroes.tumblr.com)](add this to [[links]]?), and there is the [//nbc9thwonders.tumblr.com NBC 9thwonders Tumblr blog (nbc9thwonders.tumblr.com)], which redirects to 9thwonders.com and appears to be a blog with posts from different blogs. The example I noted above of showing Tommy's ability appears to be an official reblog at [//9thwonders.com/post/126125489081 9thwonders.com/post/126125489081] (lower right animation) of another user's blog post: [//endiness.tumblr.com/post/123935456172 endiness.tumblr.com/post/123935456172].--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 01:06, 10 November 2015 (EST)

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Heroes: The Game

Feel free to check out a radical new fan fiction: Heroes: The Game. Each installment to the game is a "mission" for the player to complete. Visit the mission list to read the two missions that have already been written and released. Enjoy. --Radicell 04:47, 23 March 2010 (EDT)

Visions of Earth needs help!

Hey everyone! So as most of you probaly know, I am writing a fan fiction called "Visions of Earth", currently I am needing some help with the administrative side of it. E.g. Updating character histories, abilities etc. So, I am looking for someone who is interested in helping me. There shouldn't be too much work to do considering only one episode has been released. So if anyone is interested, please respond on my talk page! Thank you! :) --Leckie -- Talk 19:04, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

Few things that can be improved

Ok, first off, Great wiki, but i would improve a few things.

On the Character pages, we have (example)

Claire Bennett: Claire is daughter of Nathan, but adopted daughter of Noah. She can regenerate and blah blah blah

About Claire

She lived in Texas as a cheerleader...

Show History

In Season 1 Claire discovered her ability, ran away from sylar and gets held hostage by Ted, blah blah

In Season 2 Claire moves to Costa Verde and falls for West, blah

Then it goes

In Season 3 episode 1, claire does this

In Season 3 episode 2, we see claire for a slit second drinking tea

In Season 3 episode 3, claire does this and this ....

Why can we not have a sweeping few paragraphs for the whole of volume 3 & 4 & 5 like we do for Season/Volume 1 & 2 rather than an episode by episode breakdown (which could be in its own article like "Claire Bennet: Season One History" and "Claire Bennet: Season Two History".)?


And finally my second idea.

Maybe we could have some articles on "Character X & Character Y History" Documenting the relationship between two different characters in the show history, so when two characters who do not normally meet (like Ando and Noah) there could be one article to tell us the relation and previous meeting of these characters.

This would need a LOT of new articles (~30 characters in Heros, meaning we would have 900 new articles) But when we are watching season 5 (hoping there will be a season 5) we can instantly track previous characters interactions even if they barely met before. Mr Hiro 21:01, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

EDIT: Damn it, no sooner have i finished complaining about Heroes wiki have i noticed Heroes wiki has already changed, looks like my first idea is already being implemented before i can even complain about it. Never mind, however i would still like to push my second idea. Mr Hiro 21:08, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

  • So long as we don't append silly "Sythan" style names to the pages (but rather something like Connection:Nathan Petrelli and Sylar), I think this could be a really good idea. Lots of Season One's plot points revolved around stuff like this. --Ricard Desi 21:15, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
    • How would that be different from the content in Portal:Relationships?--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:06, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
      • It wouldn't be a fan creation, first of all. --Boom D  83  01:19, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
        • The only thing that's really stopping the relationships being a canon analysis is the names that we've given them. If they were renamed to Relationship:Hiro and Charlie for example, all the information and interactions come from canon sources and is canon. --mc_hammark 08:29, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
          • So we're basically looking at a massive move from all the corny fan creation names to "Connection/Relationship:X and Y", right?--BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 09:32, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
            • I simply don't think such articles are necessary. --Radicell 09:48, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
  • I agree that we don't need to duplicate/change the articles. I think the Relationship articles are okay as they are. I've grown to like having them as fan creations.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:28, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
    • I'm also not a fan of adding 900 new articles that need to be maintained when we have a hard enough time maintaining the articles we already have in existence. So many of those silly relationship articles--which could serve the purposes stated above, despite being fan creation articles--are stubs, and are looong stubs, at that. Even the connections page could be beefed up, but that page really is rarely touched, so I'm afraid to see what would happen when we add 900 more pages like it. Ultimately, this would be a huge project, and one I'm not very excited about. If somebody would like to create it in their user space and then move it into the main namespace when it's all finished, that is something we can certainly discuss. However, I have a feeling that the massive size of this undertaking will prove overwhelming and not worth the effort. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
      • That's the thing though, if it were to be done, it be a waste of memory. The relationships already exist and use only canon information. If we created these articles, the only reason they'd be canon and not fan creations is the name. As soon as we slap a fan made name on anything it becomes a fan creation. --mc_hammark 16:45, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
  • This is my first time posting something here so please bear with me: I have a minor alteration request that I would like to run by the community and that is changing the character box on the right side where it says known ability to just ability because I find it a bit confusing for people we know have an ability, we just don't know what it is so none is posted, to me implying they don't have one. For the change if the character isn't an evolved human we put none and if he/she does but we don't know we put unknown Or, for example, Kaito's character bio we could put unk, see notes That's my two cents. -- Inblackestnight 23:57, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

The future is now

It's only just now occurred to me. Assuming Heroes gets picked up for a fifth (and almost certainly final) season, and if they're smart enough to fast forward through most of 2010, we'll actually get a look at the dreaded year 2011, when everything seems to go wrong. I wonder how they'll choose to address that? --Ricard Desi 12:25, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

  • Well everything has been leading there since the beginning, so it would seem. Especially with Claire's most recent actions... --Skullman1392 23:49, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

Fans of The 4400

Did any of you watch this fantastic show that ran from 2004 to 2007? Since activity on Heroes Wiki has slowed dramatically, I've decided to spread my wings: I've taken over The 4400 Wiki as an administrator and I've been working on the site for a couple of weeks now. We're still in the very early stages, and very few articles have been written, so any help we can get is appreciated. Any fans of this show may contribute, although admittedly Wikia's interface takes a bit of getting used to. And to those who haven't watched this show, I strongly recommend you do. --Radicell 09:11, 6 May 2010 (EDT)

  • I loved The 4400. I thought it was a very under appreciated show. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2010 (EDT)

File

Hey guys, I just find a really good Microsoft Excel file about Heroes, this is the link. There are written all the evolved humans, all the abilities, all the primatech files, a timeline for the Company. All this things there are also on this wiki, but I think you shold look at it. :) (P.S.: You should have installed Microsoft Excel for read this file) --TanderixUTCR14:30, 11 May 2010 (EDT)

  • I can't see it, it comes up with something you have to buy. --Leckie -- Talk 14:34, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
    • Didn't appear this: "Your file download should start immediately.

If it does not start automatically, please click here to start the download process. Signature and Premium users never have to wait in line to get any public file, so sign up and sign in now and you won't ever have to wait again!"? --Tanderix 14:39, 11 May 2010 (EDT)

  • I was able to see it, where did you get it? Cuz it has a LOT of information, but it's not all acurate (it says Lydia's ability is Clairvoyance, for example) and it doesn't look very official. --Skullman1392 17:27, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
    • I found it in a 9th Wonders (site) post. I know, it isn't perfect, I changed it on my PC. ;)--Tanderix 14:08, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

New Wiki Project

Hello everyone :) I have recently started a new wiki over at Wikia, about the Percy Jackson series. If anyone is able to help it would be muchly appreciated! :) I hope to be editing with some of you over there. The wiki is currently in very early stages, I only just made it, and any help would be great! Thanks! :D --Leckie -- Talk 14:20, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

  • There's another Percy Jackson wiki on wikia, It's here :P. --Jenx222 | U / T / C | <inlcudeonly>08:00, 7 January 2012 (EST) 15:53, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
    • I'm sorry to be the one pointing this out but it's "thief" not "theif". --Radicell 03:59, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

NBC 'Fan It' Program Begins May 17, New Ad Campaign

NBC will be starting a new affinity program later today, May 17, called "Fan It". I'm hoping that there might be something related to Heroes in the program, though I wouldn't place good odds on it. You can read about it on the NBCUMV website, at MediaWeek, or ThingFo. According to the press release, it will be "allowing visitors to earn points by watching videos, chatting about shows, and sharing content with friends. The program requires fans to sign up to participate at http://www.NBC.com/fanit, though they can do so using their existing Facebook, Twitter, MySpace or MyNBC accounts.

As people accumulate points, they will be able to redeem them for various prizes, such as access to a yet-to-premiere series, NBC merchandise and entries to sweepstakes. To execute the Fan It program, NBC has partnered with the social media tracking company ThingFo Inc."

Also, "the network will kick off an ad blitz that includes a whopping 19 Microsoft properties and partners, ranging from MSN to Bing to Glo to various Xbox games. As part of the elaborate sponsorship package—which will run through Sept. 20—NBC and Microsoft have collaborated on “Preview to Fall TV” microsite within MSN TV. In addition, NBC will promote its new lineup via Wonderwall, Windows Messenger, and various mobile and social media platforms."--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:05, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

Fall Line-up

Well, the Fall Preview is up at nbc.com. It looks like Heroes lost to a show called The Event, that's trying really hard to be some kind of Lost/Flashforward show... gotta be honest, looking at the line-up, I think NBC is going to get flattened this year. --Ricard Desi 09:36, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

  • Yeah, nothing looks particularly interesting other than Chuck. What could happen is, if none of these new shows get much viewings, NBC might bring back Heroes, or give them a few years out then bring them back, because although the fan base is small, it is a solid fan base. --mc_hammark 10:47, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

Keeping the Graphic Novels going.

NBC wants to know whether they should keep the graphic novels going. They've got a thread going on 9th Wonders, so I suggest we all head over there and let them know that we are still wanting the GNs. Thanks guys.--mc_hammark 06:51, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

Season 4 DVD

Is there? I'd love to know what was cut from Season 4. AltesUTC CH 07:09, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

  • Me too, I really hope there is. I also wanna know what they thought wasn't good enough for the episodes! :L (God I'm sadistic) --Leckie -- Talk 07:11, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

Tim Kring launches new ARG with Nokia

It's called the Conspiracy for Good, and you can find out more info. about it including how to sign up at http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1426084 and http://www.conspiracyforgood.com/. It looks like it's not Heroes-related, but I thought it worth mentioning. It begins Mid-July 2010.--MiamiVolts (talk) 10:48, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

Heroes Once Again

Now that Heroes has ended, I decided to do as if it was being published again or to recreate all contents of Heroes especially the Heroes 360 and Heroes Evolutions (including MySpace pages, blogs, graphic novels, iStories, webisodes etc.) in the exact same order it was done four years ago back in 2006. I've opened a Google group page called "Reexperience Heroes" where all the announcements about new episode airing, new graphic novel released etc. will be done. And the dates and hours it happened four years from now, will be exactly the same. So, today is July 21 2010, in the Reexperience Heroes we're in July 21 2006. Therefore we already have the MySpace pages of Claire and Zach. Those who are interested can join the google group also add Claire and Zach as a friend and write comments :) -- Jan Rodrigo (talk) (contributions) 07:38, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

Past tense

Now that Heroes has ended, should we put articles into past tense? Episodes articles should stay present tense for the plots, as these should be read as though the reader is describing the show as it happens. For character articles, I think it would be best if they were all in past tense, but for crew and actor articles, they should all be in past tense as is is unlikely than many of us will be checking up one every one of there careers. But before I do anything I want to see what others say. --mc_hammark 18:54, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

  • No, I don't think so. The articles are written from the perspective of happening at the moment. Think of it as watching it on the DVD, if needed. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:47, 17 August 2010 (EDT)

Something every single one of you may be interested in (though unrelated to Heroes)

Hey guys, it's been a while. Figured I'd pop in and give you all a heads up about a show I just discovered that's caught my interest. It's a documentary show on the History Channel called Stan Lee's Superhumans. Basically the show is run by Stan Lee, who sends Daniel Browning Smith, a man who is considered to be the most flexible man in the world. He searches out humans across the world who are rumored to have "Super Powers", he witnesses them do their thing, and then he tries to find an explanation for the phenomenon. The first episode, for example, had a man who is able to absorb or conduct electrical current without sustaining any harm; a man who's brain works faster than a calculator; a 5'6" man able to snap steel, bend metal, and hold a motorcycle back with his hands, and a blind man who can navigate via echolocation. Another episode featured a man who could punch with more lethal force than a 30+MPH car crash. It's wild stuff, and though Heroes was a drama show, I'm sure enough of us are fans of Super Humans in general, so I'm positive most of you would enjoy it. Anyway, hope all is well here. :)--Riddler 01:52, 14 August 2010 (EDT)

Kaito Nakamura does have an abillity.

I was watching the bonus dvd from season 2 and i noticed something in the deleted scenes.

He hase the abillity to see the variables of any situation and predict the outcome.

Ando: Like a computer? Kaito: I'm faster. How do you think i've done so well in the stock market?

--StephanOtter 15:53, 5 November 2010

  • This has been mentioned several times, it has also been noted in the Notes section on Kaito's page. Also... since it was only shown in a deleted scene it is not official, meaning we can't class it as his ability, unfortunately. --Leckie -- Talk 14:09, 5 November 2010 (EDT)

I miss you guys

Does anyone still edit around here (except for good old Ryan)? I've just spent half an hour browsing through the articles and discussions on this site out of boredom, and I've been feeling small blasts of nostalgia and a lingering sadness that Heroes has forever ended and, really, so has our little community of Heroes Wiki editors. The Event Wiki just doesn't seem to have picked up the same momentum that we had around here. Anyway, this is also a sort of shout-out to all those Heroes Wiki editors I've met and worked with throughout the years, since I never really said a proper thank-you. And hopefully, the next time a highly-anticipated superhero TV series premieres, I'll see you all again. --Radicell 03:05, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

  • *sniff* Hey, Radicell. Good to see you around. Yeah, I'm not sure why The Event Wiki hasn't taken off, and more specifically I'm not sure why Heroes Wiki fostered such a neat community. I've been tangentially part of a few other wiki communities -- for shows I've enjoyed more -- and I never felt the same kind of camaraderie as I felt on HW. It's pretty cool to be part of something successful and quality like this site, and I miss it too. :) Ah, such is life... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:07, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

Alphas

I know very few people are going to read this, but for the ones who do, there's a new show airing on Syfy called Alphas that has grabbed my attention. It seems similar to Heroes in many respects and I've been impressed by the pilot episode. Just a note for anyone who's interested: there's an Alphas Wiki that looks like it'd be fun to edit. --Radicell 23:13, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

This made me smile

So I was reading this interview with Rockstar Games' founder, Dan Houser. Look at the last question on the last page.

It's funny. I spoke with Tim Kring, the creator of the TV show Heroes, earlier this year, and even that show had so much mythology going on he said that the writers lost track. But thankfully, the fans were so obsessive they had basically put together a wiki, and the writers were pulling information from that.

DH: We do the same. I would be very surprised if anyone working on a long running thing like this that is popular these days isn't. The wiki is pretty good. For some of the older games, where I just want to remember a particular person's name or a particular brand or something, it's probably in our records, but some of the details stuff from the wiki is amazing and we love it.

--Radicell 17:55, 8 January 2012 (EST)

  • That's great! Thanks, Radicell! Here's a tweet on the original interview. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:11, 10 January 2012 (EST)
    • I love this :) -- Leckie -- Talk 14:49, 26 January 2012 (EST)

Binge

Hey, everybody. The websites TV Binges & Primatech Files are going to do a Heroes binge on September 6 from 1:00 to 9:00 pm. They will be watching the episodes Genesis, Company Man, Five Years Gone, How to Stop an Exploding Man, Four Months Later..., 1961, and Brave New World. (What a great list!) It'll be a neat fan community event on Twitter. Details can be found at this link. Just thought I'd pass this along! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

Animated Gifs and 9thwonders.com

Sandubadear asked on Talk:Hachiro's ability about having a gif of Hachiro's ability being used to materialize Katana Girl (transform her into a physical person), and after I added some screenshots to the ability page Sandubadear told me on my talk page that the desire was really for a moving gif. As I am not comfortable making a moving gif for this ability, I asked Admin about making it, whether it was okay to do so here/elsewhere and if the wiki should have a policy on animated gifs in general for our documentation, etc., and noting that I saw some abilities animated like Tommy's in the new Tumblr blogs shown on the revised 9thwonders.com site. Admin pointed me to this community portal for my questions.

The wiki has had a category for Animations for a while, but we use them only sparingly in articles (most animations don't work inside a gallery). Hopefully, if this is allowed, someone else can help Sandubadear out.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:12, 9 November 2015 (EST)