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Fairly Obvious

Does anyone else find it obvious this is a formula to give people powers? Hence why everyone was screaming in the future, all the powers are being misused - plus Ando has one etc etc. --Rybo5000 12:25, September 25, 2008 (EDT)

  • Mystery poster, I think it could very well be that it's a chemical formula that directly causes the Earth to crack in half.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:44, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
    • Sorry, I'm yet to get used to add my name after the post. --Rybo5000
  • Isn't there a confusion between the formula on two half papers and the ability induction serum "what's in the syringe" that Mohinder found out? Did he realize already before the two parts got together really? --Juba 11:48, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
    • We know from the information in I Am Become Death that the formula Angela and Kaito were guarding is a formula to give people abilities, like the one Mohinder was working on separately (he doesn't know about the one The Company developed). In the future Mohinder tells Peter that he tried to make a formula, but made a mistake. Mohinder earlier called it the "genetic modification formula" in an audio journal entry. So what you have is a generic genetic modification formula article that focuses on The Company's formula (since it's going to be prevalent) and also includes information about Mohinder's failed attempt to create a genetic modification formula on his own. (Admin 11:52, 7 October 2008 (EDT))
    • We can split the information of both formulas on the same page like it was done with the various Shanti virus strains.--Citizen 13:50, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Location of the other half

Hiro tracks Daphne to this location in Berlin, Germany:

Hiro's map of Berlin.jpg

This is pretty much the same image, from Google maps:

Google's map of Berlin.jpg

I would assume, then, that Daphne is heading toward Schwäbisch Str.:

The formula's location.jpg

-- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:09, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Convert to disambig?

I think we should consider making this a disambig page. Formula is a pretty generic term, so this should probably be changed to something like "Kaito and Angela's formula" and Dr. Strauss's formula to alter bacterial DNA should be added to the disambig page.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:29, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Works for me. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:55, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
  • It's the only formula we have an article for, and it's the only name that's been given to the formula so far. A lot of people are coming here searching for formula and the formula right now, and to have them directed to a disambiguation page just seems like an extra hassle. Since pretty much the entire volume is going to be about the formula, let's wait until we have some more information, and possible a better name down the road. In the meantime, I'll go ahead and create formula (disambig). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:27, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

Daphne's employer

Daphne was recruited to Pinehearst by Linderman, who was really Maury. Maury did this under Arthur's (telepathic) orders. When the "bad guys" gather after Arthur's recovery, Daphne is among them. Is it safe to say at this point that "Daphne's employer" can be listed as Arthur Petrelli? Or at the very least Pinehearst? --Johnnyd1980 08:31, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Ultimately it's Arthur...but she may have never met him, and when she was talking about her employer, she may have been talking about Dr. Livitz. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
  • She's met him now, though--Johnnyd1980 09:57, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

Side effects

Based on what we've seen in It's Coming, is it still safe to say that the negative aspects of Mohinder's ability (scales, oozing, etc) are still exclusive to his ability? Or is it a general side effect of the formula itself? My point is that "elephant man" had scales and physical mutations as well. So I'm not sure whether we should classify these as side effects of Mohinder's ability anymore, and instead classify them as side effects of the formula in general. Thoughts? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:45, 18 November 2008 (EST)

  • I'm not sure that we know enough to say that it couldn't be a little of both--in other words the negative side effects could be due to both the formula and his ability.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:16, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Question on The Catalyst

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that "The Catalyst" should have its own page, seeing as how it seems to be a transferable gift, passed from Ishi to Claire Hiro, to Arthur, to the formula, then dissipates from Arthur's dead body.--Anthony Gooch 23:42, 8 December 2008 (EST)

  • I agree. I think Arthur just added it to the batch of formula that Mohinder made though that's all. According to something someone said, I think the main catalyst died with him when Peter and Sylar killed him with that gun (Technically Peter did kill him, all Sylar did was stop that preventing that bullet from killing him and why the hell didn't he just move out of the way while it was frozen???). Also I think he just used his power to steal it along with Hiro's powers.--WarGrowlmon18 09:49, 9 December 2008 (EST)
    • Done. I had already made it as a user sub-page, then made it a proper aritcle. I think others are making it like a zillion times better though. - Tristan0709 19:23, 9 December 2008 (EST)

Formula Order

Seeing as one of the 3 triplets that were first used had Super human strength,With the new formula, 1st super human, 2nd freezing?then Barbara's power, then flight and so on???? any body else think this? -fred1793 17:56, 10 December 2008

What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying that you think Niki, Tracy, Barbara and Nathan got their abilities in that order?--ERROR 20:56, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

Pick & Choose?

I don't remember... In "Our Father," did Tracy (I believe?) state that they can now pick and choose to give a specific power? Or did she state that they are necessarily planning to research and develop that for the future (next, I presume), but can't yet? -- prander 01:47, 11 December 2008 (EST)

The latter I think, but what she was saying mainly is they can pick and choose who to give the formula too, like who is the most suited to it. Super-Hiro

  • Yeah, I know she said that. But I thought she said that they either could pick and shoose specific powers now or would R & D that for the future. Or am I completely wrong? -- prander 18:51, 13 December 2008 (EST)
  • If you remember from 'Dual', Daphne explained to Ando, in Mohinder's New York lab, that she gained her super speed ability because she wanted to walk and that Matt received his gift of telepathy because he wanted to know how people thought of him. Ando getting his supercharging powers displays to us that he really wanted to help out his friend, and his supercharging reflects this very, very well. The abilities that will manifest from the synthetic formula will reflect the user's most desired will; almost as if these powers were a play on words that turned into abilities.--RyanTheKnight 15:56, 19 December 2008 (EST)

Random note

The formula looked like fruit punch... --Ice Vision (talk) 11:34, 17 December 2008 (EST)

It did look delicious. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 20:03, 17 December 2008 (EST)
Mohinder seemed to enjoy it. --Ricard Desi 13:59, 18 December 2008 (EST)
Yeah it reminds me of an energy drink called Burn which is like a nicer version of Red Bull. It also reminds me of red aftershocks which aren't so nice. Bosco13 10:04, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

It looked like Gatorade to me...--ERROR 20:57, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

Wait a tic...

The Recruit, Part 1 seems to imply Mohinder's incorrect formula is still out there (perhaps that set of four doses seen at the start of the webisode?) --Ricard Desi 14:01, 18 December 2008 (EST)

  • What do you mean four? Ryan only grabbed three doses, right? But we don't know whether or not those doses have been treated with the catalyst (likely not though).--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2008 (EST)
    • Especially paired with Tracy's comment in Stuck in the Middle about there being non-catalyzed versions still in the lab, it would seem Mohinder's version may not be gone just yet. --Ricard Desi 14:30, 18 December 2008 (EST)

David Sullivan got an incorrect version of the formula. Also, "wait a TIC?"--ERROR 14:04, 5 June 2009 (EDT)

Powers by Inhalation

  • Mohinder ingested the formula, and it "cured" him of his ability. Is it possible that the "highly combustible" formula is floating around in Pinehearst? Anomy 16:22, 18 December 2008 (EST)
    • I don't think he injested it. It needs to be put into his blood stream doesn't it? And remember when he peeled one of those scales off his back. He was lying on his back when the formula spread across the ground so most probably got into his blood stream through the opening on his back. --mc_hammark 16:08, 31 August 2009 (EDT)

Rachel Mills?

Forgive me if this has been already mentioned...but was Rachel's ability definitely gained by the formula, as it says on the article? We don't actually see that, do we? Super-Hiro

  • It shouldn't say that at all. That's kind of the mystery of the first webisode, that we don't know. In fact, the iStory video (transcribed at Rachel Mills#Operation Bad Blood) hints that she had a secret "thing" before she went to Fort Lee, and she doesn't want Amy to tell anybody "that thing". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:56, 21 December 2008 (EST)
    • Yeah, thought so. I just didn't want to change it unless I was missing something or someone didn't want me to. Thanks :) Super-Hiro

It's been confirmed that she has her ability naturally.--ERROR 20:54, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

Mutation?

So, it would appear that an incorrect version of the formula mutates the user into some kind of animal (see Mohinder and David, and even Ryan to a small degree). Rather than giving the user an ability that fits their psychology and genetics, they become an animal that fits their psychology and genetics. Should there be a new page (or alternatively, an edit to Mohinder's page) that refers to it as "The Mutation" or some such? --Ricard Desi (t,c) 21:32, 29 December 2008 (EST)

I Own the Formula!

  • Sorry, but can anyone really have ownership of something that's destroyed?--Isaac Mendez 17:49, 3 March 2009 (EST)

I don't know.--ERROR 10:55, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

Would you crap yourself for days if this were real?

I would. -Barbedknives (talk)20:50, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Hopefully, it wouldn't give me THAT ability! :)--Cro Magnon 10:33, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Haha. Check THIS out!--ERROR 21:00, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

  • Everyonce in a while this power backfires... (c) LOL -- Altes 03:17, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

Barbara

What ability do you think this gave Barbara?--ERROR 21:00, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

IMO, if Nikki's power is physical and Tracy is elemental, it leaves maybe a mental power. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 23:13, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

  • Yeah, but... which one exactly? Telepathy? Doubt it. Telekinesis? Nah... Clairvoyance? Come on... Lie detection, enhanced memory, omnilingualism? Who knows? We are not even sure Barbara will ever appear on the show. -- Altes 03:20, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

Perhaps spatial/temporal. Or a new category, maybe. It's Heroes, after all.--ERROR 21:15, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

The name

Where did it come from? It was referred to simply as "the formula" in the show. And in GNs, if I remember it right. Green.gif AltesUTC CH 04:43, 28 November 2009 (EST)

How Mohinder was cured

Simple.

Mohinder is cured.jpg

See that wound, the same wound he had when Tracy picked him up? That's how the formula entered his body. Looks like it won't help if just spilt over somebody. Green.gif AltesUTC CH