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-Did anyone else watch Joseph on Chuck lol my brother and i were trying to remember where he was from in till we saw him on Heroes.--Skyeatsout 22:57, 11 January 2010 (EST)

  • Yeah, I happened to change the channel a minute early and saw him, turned to a friend of mine who's catching up, and said "remember that face". --Ricard Desi (t,c) 23:24, 11 January 2010 (EST)


So who else thinks Peter caused the dream he saw by breaking Emma's cello? Emma was a very happy person for the time being until Peter showed up and did that. I'm guessing this anger at Peter spurs her joining the carnival, where Samuel gives her a new cello, telling her to release her emotions by playing, and she hurts many people in the process, overwhelmed by all the bad/unfortunate things that have happened to her. Any thoughts? --Skullman1392 00:32, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Well of course he did. Isn't that how the future usually works in this show :p? I also think that the "Brave New World" episode will be that Sylar actually does save the world from Samuel's plan. Dean 01:04, 12 January 2010 (EST)
Looks like it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 07:52, 12 January 2010 (EST)
Once again, Peter is responsible for the end of the world. At least he's consistent. --DigitalCount 11:56, 12 January 2010 (EST)
"People think that dreaming the future is a gift, they're wrong" --Themd 11:11, 12 January 2010 (EST)
I hope it's not a self-fulfilling prophecy; that would be horrendously cliché. I mean, the Greeks have already done this 3000 years ago.--Referos 11:13, 12 January 2010 (EST)
Same, and its always Peter who does it aswell! --Leckie -- Talk 12:06, 12 January 2010 (EST)
  • To be fair chaps, this doesn't really look like the end of the world. Sure, mass murder isn't exactly a good thing, but it's far better then 0.7% of the world's population dead in a nuclear explosion, about 96% of it dead to the Shanti Virus, and an Orwellian future where specials are rounded up and put in concentration camps. Though as for Peter's role in these events, I am reminded of Angela's quote from Season 3: "The only future I've ever seen is the one caused by you!" Swm 15:00, 12 January 2010 (EST)

The Swamp Scene

I loved that scene. Hiro finally got his mind back and Mohinder is rescued. I was watching the show with my dog (cute moment: she laid her head on my lap and was watching with me) who is actually better to watch with than my parents as she doesn't ask questions or fall asleep in the middle, and she actually jumped when those dogs appeared in the swamp scene!!!! She watched The Fifth Stage with me too.--WarGrowlmon18 02:48, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Edgar´s List

The whole thing was showed at the beggining of the episode, without Noah´s hand, in the intro. Can anybody get an image? Maybe this one is more clear. --Jmfdr91 03:22, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • The last three lines read: "Doyle": Puppet master. Mrs. Comey: (something I can't read). Ian Michaels: makes things grow. --Radicell 05:03, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • With Mrs. Comey it states: 'Heat Generator'. --Smouvy 10:51, 12 January 2010 (GMT)
      • See the new list User:WaterRatj/Edgar's_list -- (WaterRatj) 06:19, 12 January 2010 (EST)
        • Does this mean that "Heating" should be renamed to "Heat generation"? I think it can be considered canon. --Leckie -- Talk 12:02, 12 January 2010 (EST)



--Radicell 04:45, 12 January 2010 (EST)

"My name is Bennet, Noah Bennet"

That should be a Memorable Quote! --Themd 11:13, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • I agree, and I think it should be noted that it is an obvious reference to James Bond. --Leckie -- Talk 12:01, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • I agree that the reference should be noted, but I don't find that quote meaningful enough to be memorable. It's a quote by itself, it's a reference. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:10, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Kate Vernon as Vanessa

I like that actress. I thought she looked familar: she played Ellen Tigh on Battlestar Galactica which is ironic considering Hiro mentioned Cylons and Caprica in Upon This Rock and her charachter in that show was a Cylon!!!--WarGrowlmon18 12:05, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • That might have been intended by the writers, I doubt it was coincidence. Bahaha, just realised that mean 2 big references to BSG in one ep :D --Leckie -- Talk 12:09, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • They really went for the home run in fan service lately, and I'm loving it. The preview for next week's episode felt EXACTLY like "All Good Things...", the last Star Trek TNG episode. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 14:44, 12 January 2010 (EST)
      • I think that picture of the actress on this page is the same one used on the Battlestar Wiki for Ellen Tigh too.--WarGrowlmon18 14:47, 12 January 2010 (EST)
  • I'm not saying you've done the wrong thing, but do you think it's good for people who have just started BSG to be spoiled to something as major as that? It's a fairly significant plot point... -- Tristan0709 talk 19:32, 12 January 2010 (EST)

I can't wait...

Till they rename the show "Pretty Blond Ladies." --Action Figure 16:11, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • venessa is far from pretty. She's getting that cat-face that women get when they have a lot of plastic surgery.Gamerelite1 17:42, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • I don't think a cat-like face is the result of general plastic surgery, the one case I read about where that happened was because she asked for more feline features (for whatever reason....). Just some random trivia.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:15, 12 January 2010 (EST)
      • Well not everyone finds all of them pretty, but none are certainly ugly. --Action Figure 00:49, 13 January 2010 (EST)
        • Can we count them? Claire, Lauren, Tracy, Lydia, Venessa, Emma, (and the long dead and forgoten ones) Elle, Sandra, Meredith, and the creepy Nikki/Jessica thing. Dance4thedead 22:10, 5 February 2010 (EST)

Good name for this episode

A good name for the episode would have been Three Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Ya know like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I LOVED the mental hospital escape. Kinda reminded me of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Ya know breaking out, beating the system like that. Oh and I think those orderlies are gonna wanna check themselves into the hospital because of seeing Ando's power.--WarGrowlmon18 16:23, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • Hahaha, I completely agree with you!!! I just student directed that play at my school, and I felt the same way seeing this episode!! Too bad there was no "Nurse Ratched" character. --Skullman1392 22:35, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Ability Supercharging

This was an amazing episode for the development of Ando's ability! And I think there needs to be pictures on the episode and ability page! What does everyone think? ~~IHHTalk 18:08, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • Amazing episodes for powers overall. Saw plenty of examples for Ando's ability and enhanced strength, and that seen where Samuel split the driveway in half was amazingly well done. I'm satisfied.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:13, 12 January 2010 (EST)
    • I agree

-- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 05:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)

      • Can we still call this Ability Supercharging? It seems like the main function of the ability is the red lightning, while the ability boosting powers are just a side effect--Gibbeynator 18:18, 13 January 2010 (EST)
        • Yeah man, i thought the same thing, totally agree with you -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 03:28, 14 January 2010 (EST)
          • I kind of see Ando's ability as energy manipulation (no, I'm not suggesting it be renamed or anything). This energy can be used in multiple ways as Ando gets better control over it- poured into evolved humans to supercharge their powers, used as an attack, and apparantly to overload machinary as well. Gotta agree with PJ about the Samuel scene. Swm 06:44, 14 January 2010 (EST)

Noahs monologue

Okay, I just have to say this: Shut the f*ck up about protecting Claire! We know that he wants to save her from the world and everything. And okay, it was cute in season one. In season two it got a little annoying. In season three it got creepy. And now... Now I want to rip my own ears of everytime he says something about protecting her. I'm so fed up with it that I don't know what to do. Why can't he realise that she can take care of herself, and that she's allready seen some of the worst in man but still keeps her innocence? And why can't he see that the more he tries to protect, the further away from her she's drifting? Does anyone feel the same way as I do, or am I the only one?--Tacroy 20:28, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • I liked the overall tone of the monologue, but you're right when you say Noah's "protective father" role has been played out.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 20:29, 12 January 2010 (EST)
  • "Why can't he realize..." Oh how many times have we said that in life. And the answer is usually the same: he lacks the objectivity needed to see things from outside himself, like all the rest of us, no matter how hard we try to fool ourselves into thinking otherwise. You can see the bleeding obvious in your friends lives, but only your friends can see the bleeding obvious in your own. --Dreamsmith 21:47, 12 January 2010 (EST)


After the last couple of episodes, I'd lost the feeling of empathy for the characters on the show! (even with the obvious character development!) This was a solid eppy, with some definite excitement has got the gusto yet again! I'm so relieved that stuff actually occurred!! --Punxas 22:19, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • Interesting. This was probably my least favorite episode of the season, one of the least in the overall series. --Action Figure 00:48, 13 January 2010 (EST)
    • I agree with you Action Figure, this was one of the worst episodes this season, and maybe even the series. It really wasn't that exciting. -Vampirate68 | Talk | Contribs | 23:54, 15 January 2010 (EST)
      • Totally agreed. I had the feeling it was just a space filler or something, it was like nothing really happened. --Vanityvicious 17:37, 20 January 2010 (EST)

Lydia & Peter

How does it work? An enhancement from her power? When she placed the tattoo on him from a distance? Without inkt? Don't get it really? Anyone can ellaborate? -- (WaterRatj) 04:00, 13 January 2010 (EST)

  • In one of the first eps Samuel gave this tattoo too Peter. I think Lydia just empathically called onto that compass -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 05:16, 13 January 2010 (EST)
    • So the inkt was still in his body since then? -- (WaterRatj) 05:58, 13 January 2010 (EST)
      • Yeah i think it is. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 06:18, 13 January 2010 (EST)

Emma & Peter

Also is it me or do the scenes jump from her appartment to his appartment? -- (WaterRatj) 04:11, 13 January 2010 (EST)

  • They did a few cuts, from her appartment to his appartment. This was to show her the news article of Samuel that Peter has. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 05:17, 13 January 2010 (EST)
    • Did you realize that he said "I'll call you later" to her? well how would that work??--Vanityvicious 15:11, 13 January 2010 (EST)
      • Lol :p Never tought of it till now :p maybe some light goes? or on vibrate? -- (WaterRatj) 15:47, 13 January 2010 (EST)
        • Even if she noticed the phone ringing she still wouldn't hear what he was saying.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 15:51, 13 January 2010 (EST)
          • Actually, after some clever thinking, her phone could be wired up to some voice recognition software which could write it onto a computer screen for her to read. I used voice recognition when I was writing essays so that I could save time. --mc_hammark 16:09, 13 January 2010 (EST)
            • Well, he decided not to call anyway...--Vanityvicious 17:45, 13 January 2010 (EST)
              • Regardless of the phone issue, the last line he spoke to her was spoken to her back. And she responded. Come on guys, if you're gonna have a deaf character, keep her deaf. Especially if the actress herself is deaf. Come to think of it, is Deanne Bray only mostly deaf? How would she have known her cue to say, "Just go."? Sythan Nalar
                • Rehearsing, and cues off-camera. --mc_hammark 16:18, 18 January 2010 (EST)

Emma Killing

How would she have killed so many people with her powers? What are your toughts? -- (WaterRatj) 04:26, 13 January 2010 (EST)

  • Well she can control people's emotion so.. in that way maybe she can go deeper and kill them with it. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 04:41, 13 January 2010 (EST)
    • My theory has always been, about that bit, is that Emma will be luring god knows how many evolved humans to the carnival making Samuel more power and soon making him loose control of his ability causing earthquakes and other disastrous things (maybe the world splitting, but i don't think they'll make him that strong.) Which will kills thousands! --Scorvi12 05:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
      • Given Peter's dream, I'd think that she attracts loads of specials then sylar kills them to take their powers. Then sylar kills her and can get them all. --mc_hammark 06:06, 13 January 2010 (EST)
      • that sounds epic ö SYLAR and all of those powers ö he would be a god, unless peter is the savior :o -- (WaterRatj) 06:26, 13 January 2010 (EST)
  • Emma split her wall, what's to stop her from splitting the Earth? --Punxas 23:45, 13 January 2010 (EST)
  • If Emma can attract people with her music, she may be able to harm them as well. Green.gif AltesUTC CH 06:38, 15 January 2010 (EST)
    • I figured it was obvious that she's cutting people in half, like she did to her wall.--Gibbeynator 11:32, 16 January 2010 (EST)
  • I think, given Samuel's elitist views of specials, he'll use Emma to lure as many normal humans to him as he can, and then he'll kill them.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 12:00, 16 January 2010 (EST)
    • When Angela said Emma would kill thousands, the first thing I thought was that she'd make people go crazy with her ability, unhinging them, and the chaos caused by that would kill said thousands. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:12, 16 January 2010 (EST)
      • And on heroes survival there was a message from John Mulligan about the world being in turmoil and him having rewound time to try and stop it. Emma may have something to do with that. --mc_hammark 15:16, 16 January 2010 (EST)

Where Can I Watch This

My PVR taped NCIS instead of this episode. Anyone know where I can watch it on the internet? Homersimpson 03:02, 17 January 2010 (EST)

  • Hey, i usually watch it --> <-- there. i hope it helps :D --Scorvi12 03:37, 17 January 2010 (EST)
    • I used to watch there, but since I always watch two or three series at once, I have to wait one hour so see it all because most of their videos are uploaded at megavideo, which has a 72 minutes limit. I have since moved on to fastpasstv, usually the videos are uploaded at wisevid, no time limit, and HD quality most of the times. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:11, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Psychiatric Facility

Were these scenes filmed at the same location that was used for the Psychiatric facility in Terminator 2?


Could it be a reference to Harry Potter? There was a spell that rendered other people voiceless. Green.gif AltesUTC CH 10:45, 21 October 2010 (EDT)