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Fate vs. free will — Is a character's future pre-destined, or can they make their own choice to determine the outcome? |
{{tocright}}'''Fate vs. free will''' — Is a character's future pre-destined, or can they make their own choice to determine the outcome? |
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==Episodic |
==Episodic Occurrences of Fate Prevailing== |
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===[[Genesis]]=== |
===[[Genesis]]=== |
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*[[Isaac]] realizes his [[paintings]] are predicting real world events. |
*[[Isaac]] realizes his [[paintings]] are predicting real world future events. |
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===[[Six Months Ago]]=== |
===[[Six Months Ago]]=== |
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*[[Hiro]] realizes that, try as he might, he cannot save [[Charlie]] from being murdered by [[Sylar]]. |
*After [[time travel]]ing forward and backward, [[Hiro]] realizes that, try as he might, he cannot save [[Charlie]] from being murdered by [[Sylar]]. |
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===[[Parasite]]=== |
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==Episodic Occurances of Free Will Prevailing== |
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*After [[Hiro]] and [[Ando]] [[Space-time manipulation|teleport]] into the [[Five Years Gone|future]] they see that the [[explosion]] has already destroyed [[New York City]] and Hiro says that he failed to stop the bomb. |
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===[[Homecoming]]=== |
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* [[Peter]] saves the [[Claire|cheerleader]] (for the time being) because he chose to follow Future [[Hiro]]'s warning. |
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===[[.07%]]=== |
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*[[Isaac]] tells [[Sylar]] that he tried fighting the future, but it's too big for him. |
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*He also tells him that he can't fight the future. |
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===[[Five Years Gone]]=== |
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*Despite his efforts to change the future, [[Hiro Nakamura (explosion future)|Future Hiro]] finds that [[the explosion]] still occurred. |
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===[[Four Months Later...]]=== |
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* After [[Kaito]] receives his [[death threat]], he announces that he has 24 hours to live. Sometime within those 24 hours, he is pushed off a [[Charles Deveaux's rooftop|rooftop]] by a [[hooded killer]]. |
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===[[The Second Coming]]=== |
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* A [[Peter Petrelli (exposed future)|Peter]] from the [[exposed future|future]] arrives to [[Nathan]]'s [[Nathan's press conference|press conference]] and shoots his brother to prevent him from exposing the existence of [[evolved humans]]. However, this doesn't change the future: the [[formula]] is still created and everyone is given abilities. |
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===[[Episode:Building 26|Building 26]]=== |
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* When [[Hiro]] and [[Ando]] are led to [[India]] by [[Matt Parkman]]'s painting, Ando tries to use his powers to save [[Annapurna]] from her forced marriage. However, because Ando used his powers, he is kidnapped and Hiro saves the day as painted. |
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===[[Acceptance]]=== |
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* Despite [[Hiro]] traveling back in time to prevent it 47 times, [[Tadashi]] inevitably ends up photocopying his behind, losing his job, attempting suicide on the building's roof, and calling [[Dial a Hero]] to have someone witness his death. He is only saved when Hiro can talk him out of it whilst on the roof in the present. |
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===[[June 13th, Part One]]=== |
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* Hiro attempts to stop the bombing of the [[Odessa Peace Summit]], but determines that there are too many bombs and the explosion is unstoppable. Any attempt to stop it will result in a worse future and Hiro tells [[Noah Bennet]] and [[Angela Petrelli]] that it is fate. Angela agrees and says that [[Angela's dreams|her visions]] are also fate. |
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==Episodic Occurrences of Free Will Prevailing== |
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===[[Episode:Homecoming|Homecoming]]=== |
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* [[Peter]] saves the [[Claire|cheerleader]] (for the time being) because he chose to heed [[Hiro Nakamura (explosion future)|Future Hiro]]'s warning. |
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===[[Five Years Gone]]=== |
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* [[Hiro Nakamura (explosion future)|Future Hiro]] finds that he was successful in stopping [[Sylar]] from regenerating, stopping him from being the bomb. |
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===[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]=== |
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* [[Nathan]] flies [[Peter]] into the sky, preventing the [[explosion]] from doing any damage in defiance of several [[Painting_%28disambig%29|prophetic images]]. |
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===[[Our Father]]=== |
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* In the past, [[Hiro]] convinces [[Ishi Nakamura|his mother]] to give the [[Catalyst]] to him, not to baby [[Claire Bennet]]. |
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===[[Shades of Gray]]=== |
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* [[Nathan]] helps [[Matt]] disarm the bomb [[Danko]] strapped to him, despite Matt had [[Telepathy|painted]] the [[:Image:Matt Drawing of nuclear DC.jpg|destruction]] of Washington, DC. |
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===[[Once Upon a Time in Texas]]=== |
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* [[Hiro]] returns to the past and finally succeeds in saving [[Charlie]] from both [[Sylar]] and her [[blood clot]]. |
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==Other Episodic References== |
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===[[Genesis]]=== |
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*[[Peter]] tells [[Nathan]] that he has been thinking about his destiny. |
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*In his taxi, [[Mohinder]] tells [[Peter]] it is destiny that natural selection has picked seemingly ordinary individuals to carry inside them the genetic code that will take their species to the next [[evolution]]ary rung. |
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*Peter talks to Simone about having his own destiny. |
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===[[Don't Look Back]]=== |
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*Mohinder mentions that we all imagine ourselves the agents of our destiny, capable of determining our own fate. |
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*Later, Mohinder says that man can only choose how he will stand when the call of destiny comes. |
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===[[One Giant Leap]]=== |
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*On an airplane, Hiro tells Ando that a hero doesn’t run away from his destiny. |
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*While with Simone, Peter gives a toast to destiny. |
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*When a [[Hotspur employee]] tells Hiro that there is one more [[Nissan Versa]] left, he says "It's our destiny." |
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===[[Nothing to Hide]]=== |
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*When Micah picks up a pay phone, Mohinder says that you do not choose your destiny. It chooses you. And that those who knew you before fate took you by the hand cannot understand the depth of the changes inside. |
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===[[Seven Minutes to Midnight]]=== |
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* Mohinder mentions that the earth is large enough to fool you into thinking that you can hide from anything, including fate. |
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* He later asks if you do not have the strength cunning to hide from destiny and mentions that fate can find you anywhere. |
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===[[Episode:Homecoming|Homecoming]]=== |
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*Mohinder tells [[Sanjog]] that he has two paths in front of me and that he wants to know which one to take -- which one is his destiny. |
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*Mohinder says that to embrace destiny, we must, inevitably, face our fears and conquer them. |
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===[[Six Months Ago]]=== |
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*Jackie tells Claire that destiny is calling her to be a [[message|cheerleader]]. |
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*Chandra Suresh tells Mr. Bennet that it is Claire's destiny to change the world and give people hope for the future. |
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*Mohinder asks if it in our own hands to alter the course of destiny. He goes on saying that of all our abilities, it is free will that truly makes us unique. With it, we have a tiny, but potent, chance to deny fate. |
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===[[Fallout]]=== |
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*Hiro tells Ando that they have to get back on mission, find Peter Petrelli, find the artist, and stop the bomb. He ends with saying that destiny hasn’t forgotten them. After receiving a phone call from Isaac, Ando asks him who called and Hiro answers "Destiny!" Ando then jokingly says that he wishes destiny would lose their number. |
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*After Hiro meets Isaac, he tells him that it is his destiny to stop the bomb from blowing up New York. Isaac tells him that he thinks it may be his destiny as well. |
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===[[Godsend]]=== |
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*Hiro explains to Ando that he is like [[Takezo Kensei]] and tells him that the [[Kensei sword|sword]] will allow him to fulfill his destiny. |
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*Hiro asks if it is his destiny to kill the exploding man. |
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==Other Episode References== |
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===[[The Fix]]=== |
===[[The Fix]]=== |
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*[[Peter]] tells [[Claude]] that he believes that their meeting is not an accident; Claude is destined to help Peter gain control of his [[Empathic mimicry|power]] and prevent the disaster. |
*[[Peter]] tells [[Claude]] that he believes that their meeting is not an accident; Claude is destined to help Peter gain control of his [[Empathic mimicry|power]] and prevent the [[explosion|disaster]] to come. |
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===[[Distractions]]=== |
===[[Distractions]]=== |
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*Kaito tells Hiro that it is his destiny to be his successor. Hiro then tells him that he believes he has a different destiny. Kaito does not agree with Hiro about his destiny and angrily tears the dinosaur painting in half. |
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*[[Isaac]] meets [[Simone]] on [[Charles Deveaux's rooftop]], where he laments that the city he has grown to love is going to be destroyed, and there's nothing he can do to stop it. Simone tells him that he wouldn't have been given [[Precognition|his power]] if there were nothing he could do. |
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*[[Isaac]] meets [[Simone]] on [[Charles Deveaux's rooftop]], where he laments that the city he has grown to love is going to be destroyed, and there's nothing he can do to stop it. Simone tells him that he wouldn't have been given [[Precognition|his power]] if there were nothing he could do. She tells him that he not only sees the future, he makes it. |
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===[[Run!]]=== |
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*Sylar tells Mohinder that controlling his ability is like riding a bike for the first time, but then he discovered something -- a kind of peace, a sense of purpose that can only be described as destiny. |
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===[[Unexpected]]=== |
===[[Unexpected]]=== |
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*[[Sylar]] says |
*[[Sylar]] says he believes in fate. |
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*Sylar tells Mohinder that it is their destiny to find all the special people out there. |
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*Ando tells Hiro that it's destiny that the two of them save the world, but Hiro knows he has to do this alone and that too many people have died. |
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===[[.07%]]=== |
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*[[Mr. Linderman]] tells [[Nathan]] that it is his destiny to be the leader who uses the [[explosion]] to rally a city, a nation, and a world. |
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*Isaac tells Sylar that he finally knows his part in all this. |
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===[[Five Years Gone]]=== |
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*[[Mohinder Suresh (explosion future)|Mohinder]] told [[Matt Parkman (explosion future)|Matt]] that [[Hiro Nakamura (explosion future)|Hiro]] may have kept a [[string web|living map of the past]] because he thought he could change it. |
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===[[The Hard Part]]=== |
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*[[Peter]] tells [[Claire]] that them meeting each other isn't just random, it's destiny. Claire then tells Peter that [[Nathan]] wants to give her a life, not a destiny. |
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*[[Angela]] tells [[Nathan]] that it is his destiny to become the [[White House|president]] and [[sacrifice]] [[New York, NY|New York City]] to save the world. |
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===[[Landslide]]=== |
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*[[Claire]] tells [[Mr. Bennet|her father]] that she believes she may actually have a destiny to help stop [[the explosion]]. |
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===[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]=== |
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*Angela believes that the bomb will go off, while Charles believes that that tragedy is not inevitable. |
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*Claire tells Nathan that the future isn't written in stone. Nathan later reiterates what Claire told him. |
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===[[Kindred]]=== |
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* [[Noah]] is shocked when he sees his death [[prophecy|predicted]] by [[Isaac]]'s [[series of eight]] painting. |
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==Graphic Novel References== |
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===[[Graphic Novel:String Theory]]=== |
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In 2011, America is a police state where evolved humans are persecuted. Hiro recalls how he tried to change history by killing Sylar before he exploded, but Sylar lived because he had stolen Claire's power to regenerate. He goes back in time again to get Peter to save Claire, hoping that will change history, but nothing seems different when he returns. |
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===[[Graphic Novel:Maya y Alejandro]]=== |
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An excerpt from [[Activating_Evolution#Excerpts|Chapter 5]] of ''[[Activating Evolution]]'' says that [[evolution]] is a matter of choice. |
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===[[Graphic Novel:Flying Blind]]=== |
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[[West]] thinks that whether it is fate or choice, people can be divided into two categories: robots and aliens. |
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===[[Graphic Novel:The Golden Goose]]=== |
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After crashing in [[Bhutan]] [[1992|fifteen years ago]], [[Drucker]] tells [[Goose]] he believes fate caused him to crash there. Goose says he stayed because he had nothing better to do and liked the women. |
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===[[Graphic Novel:History of a Secret]]=== |
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[[Abu]] and [[Mr. Aswan|his father]] talk about their ancestry and also Abu's newly-discovered [[ability]] of [[levitation]], which Abu believes will allow him a greater destiny than what he has now. That night, after being led through a [[Dream manipulation|dream]] by [[Sanjog Iyer]], Abu wakes up in a stir and picks up an Egyptian artifact from his desk, now understanding that his destiny is [[Egypt]]. |
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==See Also== |
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Hiro laments to Ando that, try as he might, he couldn't save Charlie. |
Fate vs. free will — Is a character's future pre-destined, or can they make their own choice to determine the outcome?
Episodic Occurrences of Fate Prevailing
Genesis
Six Months Ago
- After time traveling forward and backward, Hiro realizes that, try as he might, he cannot save Charlie from being murdered by Sylar.
Parasite
- After Hiro and Ando teleport into the future they see that the explosion has already destroyed New York City and Hiro says that he failed to stop the bomb.
.07%
- Isaac tells Sylar that he tried fighting the future, but it's too big for him.
- He also tells him that he can't fight the future.
Five Years Gone
- Despite his efforts to change the future, Future Hiro finds that the explosion still occurred.
Four Months Later...
- After Kaito receives his death threat, he announces that he has 24 hours to live. Sometime within those 24 hours, he is pushed off a rooftop by a hooded killer.
The Second Coming
- A Peter from the future arrives to Nathan's press conference and shoots his brother to prevent him from exposing the existence of evolved humans. However, this doesn't change the future: the formula is still created and everyone is given abilities.
Building 26
- When Hiro and Ando are led to India by Matt Parkman's painting, Ando tries to use his powers to save Annapurna from her forced marriage. However, because Ando used his powers, he is kidnapped and Hiro saves the day as painted.
Acceptance
- Despite Hiro traveling back in time to prevent it 47 times, Tadashi inevitably ends up photocopying his behind, losing his job, attempting suicide on the building's roof, and calling Dial a Hero to have someone witness his death. He is only saved when Hiro can talk him out of it whilst on the roof in the present.
June 13th, Part One
- Hiro attempts to stop the bombing of the Odessa Peace Summit, but determines that there are too many bombs and the explosion is unstoppable. Any attempt to stop it will result in a worse future and Hiro tells Noah Bennet and Angela Petrelli that it is fate. Angela agrees and says that her visions are also fate.
Episodic Occurrences of Free Will Prevailing
Homecoming
- Peter saves the cheerleader (for the time being) because he chose to heed Future Hiro's warning.
Five Years Gone
- Future Hiro finds that he was successful in stopping Sylar from regenerating, stopping him from being the bomb.
How to Stop an Exploding Man
- Nathan flies Peter into the sky, preventing the explosion from doing any damage in defiance of several prophetic images.
Our Father
- In the past, Hiro convinces his mother to give the Catalyst to him, not to baby Claire Bennet.
Shades of Gray
- Nathan helps Matt disarm the bomb Danko strapped to him, despite Matt had painted the destruction of Washington, DC.
Once Upon a Time in Texas
- Hiro returns to the past and finally succeeds in saving Charlie from both Sylar and her blood clot.
Other Episodic References
Genesis
- Peter tells Nathan that he has been thinking about his destiny.
- In his taxi, Mohinder tells Peter it is destiny that natural selection has picked seemingly ordinary individuals to carry inside them the genetic code that will take their species to the next evolutionary rung.
- Peter talks to Simone about having his own destiny.
Don't Look Back
- Mohinder mentions that we all imagine ourselves the agents of our destiny, capable of determining our own fate.
- Later, Mohinder says that man can only choose how he will stand when the call of destiny comes.
One Giant Leap
- On an airplane, Hiro tells Ando that a hero doesn’t run away from his destiny.
- While with Simone, Peter gives a toast to destiny.
- When a Hotspur employee tells Hiro that there is one more Nissan Versa left, he says "It's our destiny."
Nothing to Hide
- When Micah picks up a pay phone, Mohinder says that you do not choose your destiny. It chooses you. And that those who knew you before fate took you by the hand cannot understand the depth of the changes inside.
Seven Minutes to Midnight
- Mohinder mentions that the earth is large enough to fool you into thinking that you can hide from anything, including fate.
- He later asks if you do not have the strength cunning to hide from destiny and mentions that fate can find you anywhere.
Homecoming
- Mohinder tells Sanjog that he has two paths in front of me and that he wants to know which one to take -- which one is his destiny.
- Mohinder says that to embrace destiny, we must, inevitably, face our fears and conquer them.
Six Months Ago
- Jackie tells Claire that destiny is calling her to be a cheerleader.
- Chandra Suresh tells Mr. Bennet that it is Claire's destiny to change the world and give people hope for the future.
- Mohinder asks if it in our own hands to alter the course of destiny. He goes on saying that of all our abilities, it is free will that truly makes us unique. With it, we have a tiny, but potent, chance to deny fate.
Fallout
- Hiro tells Ando that they have to get back on mission, find Peter Petrelli, find the artist, and stop the bomb. He ends with saying that destiny hasn’t forgotten them. After receiving a phone call from Isaac, Ando asks him who called and Hiro answers "Destiny!" Ando then jokingly says that he wishes destiny would lose their number.
- After Hiro meets Isaac, he tells him that it is his destiny to stop the bomb from blowing up New York. Isaac tells him that he thinks it may be his destiny as well.
Godsend
- Hiro explains to Ando that he is like Takezo Kensei and tells him that the sword will allow him to fulfill his destiny.
- Hiro asks if it is his destiny to kill the exploding man.
The Fix
- Peter tells Claude that he believes that their meeting is not an accident; Claude is destined to help Peter gain control of his power and prevent the disaster to come.
Distractions
- Kaito tells Hiro that it is his destiny to be his successor. Hiro then tells him that he believes he has a different destiny. Kaito does not agree with Hiro about his destiny and angrily tears the dinosaur painting in half.
- Isaac meets Simone on Charles Deveaux's rooftop, where he laments that the city he has grown to love is going to be destroyed, and there's nothing he can do to stop it. Simone tells him that he wouldn't have been given his power if there were nothing he could do. She tells him that he not only sees the future, he makes it.
Run!
- Sylar tells Mohinder that controlling his ability is like riding a bike for the first time, but then he discovered something -- a kind of peace, a sense of purpose that can only be described as destiny.
Unexpected
- Sylar says he believes in fate.
- Sylar tells Mohinder that it is their destiny to find all the special people out there.
- Ando tells Hiro that it's destiny that the two of them save the world, but Hiro knows he has to do this alone and that too many people have died.
.07%
- Mr. Linderman tells Nathan that it is his destiny to be the leader who uses the explosion to rally a city, a nation, and a world.
- Isaac tells Sylar that he finally knows his part in all this.
Five Years Gone
- Mohinder told Matt that Hiro may have kept a living map of the past because he thought he could change it.
The Hard Part
- Peter tells Claire that them meeting each other isn't just random, it's destiny. Claire then tells Peter that Nathan wants to give her a life, not a destiny.
- Angela tells Nathan that it is his destiny to become the president and sacrifice New York City to save the world.
Landslide
- Claire tells her father that she believes she may actually have a destiny to help stop the explosion.
How to Stop an Exploding Man
- Angela believes that the bomb will go off, while Charles believes that that tragedy is not inevitable.
- Claire tells Nathan that the future isn't written in stone. Nathan later reiterates what Claire told him.
Kindred
- Noah is shocked when he sees his death predicted by Isaac's series of eight painting.
Graphic Novel References
Graphic Novel:String Theory
In 2011, America is a police state where evolved humans are persecuted. Hiro recalls how he tried to change history by killing Sylar before he exploded, but Sylar lived because he had stolen Claire's power to regenerate. He goes back in time again to get Peter to save Claire, hoping that will change history, but nothing seems different when he returns.
Graphic Novel:Maya y Alejandro
An excerpt from Chapter 5 of Activating Evolution says that evolution is a matter of choice.
Graphic Novel:Flying Blind
West thinks that whether it is fate or choice, people can be divided into two categories: robots and aliens.
Graphic Novel:The Golden Goose
After crashing in Bhutan fifteen years ago, Drucker tells Goose he believes fate caused him to crash there. Goose says he stayed because he had nothing better to do and liked the women.
Graphic Novel:History of a Secret
Abu and his father talk about their ancestry and also Abu's newly-discovered ability of levitation, which Abu believes will allow him a greater destiny than what he has now. That night, after being led through a dream by Sanjog Iyer, Abu wakes up in a stir and picks up an Egyptian artifact from his desk, now understanding that his destiny is Egypt.
See Also
- For other uses of fate, see fate (disambig).