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This airs on my birthday. I'll be busy that night. =[--Riddler 16:32, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

• Well children, the solution is quite simple.

Invent a device capable of transporting you to a dimension where the events in the 'Heroes' universe take place, ideally at a point where you have direct access to a sample of the genetic modification formula. Then comes the hard part: you must be lucky enough to have the right DNA combination to recieve space-time manipulation.

Then its just a matter of going back to your native dimension, traveling to the moment your parents were 'engaging' and hold it off for a little while. Good luck - Barbedknives 22:46, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

• • Or get a VCR and record it. --Ice Vision (talk) 00:08, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 21:39, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• IceGhost78 oh my jewsus
• What!!!!!!!!!!! --BoomerDay 21:40, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• Claire is gonna be so mad at him. :X Deathwish 21:41, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• Sylar really needs to die --BoomerDay 21:43, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• what happen?
  • Nathan bought Claire a cake but he dropped it Chevy Chase style. Deathwish 21:46, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• Can't they just give Nathan some Claire's blood. His injuries look about the same as Noah's. --Reflections 21:48, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
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Boyashaka!--Bob (talk) 21:48, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• I never caught the explanation behind that syringe. The stuff in it kills, right? AND HE SHOULD STAY DEAD THANKS -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 21:48, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• No, it's an uber-high-strength tranquilizer. Danko said it'd "knock an elephant out." Mike 22:21, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Never mind then. So Danko isn't dead either? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:22, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I'd say no. Hiro just knocked him out cold. Mike 22:24, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

She's baaaaaaaack

yep. --BoomerDay 22:01, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

took long enough. although its weird to see her powers have evolved to include water x_x Vengeful 22:04, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• i actually liked that idea, what about some steam or cloud? XD--Steven0328 22:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Is she? We're discussing on Talk:Tracy Strauss whether or not this is actually Barbara. We might have to credit this sister and her power as "Unknown triplet" and "Unknown triplet's ability" until we get confirmation as to her identity. Hopefully, we'll get some answers in next week's BTE.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:44, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
    • It has to be Tracy. Barbra would never know any of the agents' names like Tracy. It makes sense that it's Tracy and I think she's going to have an interesting role in the next volume. --Jk84panhead 02:55, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Barbara knew Dr. Zimmermann, and if she was a fugitive like her sister, that's how she knows about Building 26.--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
        • Next season is gonna be fun:D--Fr0z3nB0nes 03:43, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

WTF SERIOUSLY?

USE CLAIRE'S BLOOD. COME ON. SERIOUSLY NOW. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:02, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

IceGhost78 maybe the will explain it on behind eclipse

• Nah. They used that to save nathan last volume. It would be lame to do it again. Although I can't believe they really killed him. . .
• The super-blood was a crutch that I'm glad they're not relying on too heavily. This gives some real weight to the program, and I commend them for the creative way to write Sylar "off" the show. --ZyberGoat 22:08, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• I agree, it seems very stupid. Noah was shot through the eye and most likely had serious brain damage, but Claire's blood brought him back right as rain. Nathan only had a slashed throat, Claire's blood should have been able to get him back on his feet easily. For that matter, when did Matt's telepathy get so powerful, and where are they getting Nathan's memories from.--Reflections 22:08, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

IceGhost78 sylar had nathans memories through clairsentience (spelling?)

Angela and Noah explained it. "Nathan" will fill in the memory gaps with Nathan's possessions. --ZyberGoat 22:11, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• Well it looked like just regular thought implants. Just on a huuuuge scale.
  • • Oh, I must have missed it when he used clairsentience on Nathan, I thought he was interrupted by Claire. I also thought that it was not perfect, considering how he needed to bluff his way through two conversations. As for memory implants, yes it is just an implant on a huge scale, but he has never shown the ability to do anything close to creating permanent personality changes in individuals. In fact, he seemed to struggle controlling a few guards, I would assume that wiping a person's whole mind and implanting a new one would be just as difficult, if not more so. Edit: If Sylar/Nathan uses clairsentience on Nathan's possessions, then wouldn't Sylar be aware he is using said power.--Reflections 22:15, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• While I'm glad they didnt, it doesnt make sense character wise not to use magic blood. Sylar should have destroyed the body with his disintegration power. --Action Figure 22:38, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Another reason I think they wouldn't do this is because this season (at least this volume, I mean) has been written as a second start so that basically any new fan could jump in and not need a great deal of background on the characters. They wouldn't know about 'magic blood' and that... would be a problem. Mike 22:42, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• Ah, I misrepresented my frustration. It's not at the writers or at the show. I think it was good that they killed off Nathan; it would be a nice change of pace. I'm actually kind of frustrated at the characters themselves. How could they be so stupid to blatantly ignore Claire's healing blood? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:49, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• Well, the characters dont operate independently from the writers... :) -Action Figure 23:04, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • ...I know. Ugh, never mind. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 23:05, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I've seen two explanations online for why they *didn't* use any of Claire's RCR blood. 1) Nathan bled out for potentially hours, and either didn't have enough blood to regenerate, or was too dead ("stale"). In Season 2, Noah's body was rushed to the Company (possibly less than an hour even) and immediately injected. 2) When the decision was made for the Sylar-Nathan switcharoo, only Angela, Matt, and Noah was there (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure if Mohinder was around or not). I don't remember if Noah remembers the properties of Claire's blood (it did save him, but was it fully explained to him?), but Angela and Matt shouldn't know. I guess Angela should have a hint given her deals with Adam, however.--Tim Thomason 00:17, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

WHAT THE-

tim, why? why not just use claire's blood! i rather mohinder's death over nathan's any time i just hate this idea, cause nathans gonna be all evil now --Steven0328 22:08, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• Now? Did you miss this entire season until two episodes ago? --ZyberGoat 22:09, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • lol, no, i just think that he's gonna be a killer/sylar, now. --Steven0328 22:10, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• Perhaps that's why they let Nathan die? Becuase now Angela can control him better (or so she thinks). Side note: didn't she say Gabriel was her favorite? --Crazyaspie 22:14, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• yeah, i guess. i just think that "nathan"'s gonna find a way to overcome that and find his "real" self. lol.--Steven0328 22:27, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Oh, for sure. Then he'll be pissed and go on a rampage or he'll see how long he can milk being Nathan before killing someone...it'll make next season superb!--Anthony Gooch 22:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
    • If you look at the past seasons and think about how the story almost always goes, of course Sylar will at some point (I'll estimate by mid-next volume) recover from the brainwashing. The series is laden in foreshadowing all the time... Mike 23:03, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Kinda makes you wonder how long before 'Sylar' seeks redemption.--Halfxwitted 23:06, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

WOW!!!!!

I just watched the episode. AMAZING!!!! The end was cool... won't spoil anything, but they have a definant plot for next season!

• I thought it was very good and I loved the volume 5 teaser a lot, so I'm interested to see what they have planned for the next season. I'll have to rewatch it because I missed like a minute in scenes (live streaming can be a bitch), and for now I give this between a B+ and an A.--Citizen 22:16, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • so, an A-? :)--Anthony Gooch 22:47, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Plot Holes

Anyone else not understand how Sylar was able to fly? He never got this ability from anywhere.

• he simply absorbed it, ala peter, he can do that too, he just chooses not to.--Steven0328 22:27, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I thought he took it from Nathan through empathy. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:26, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• He used his telekinesis. When Nathan lands, his arms are spread out like an airplanes. When Sylar landed, they were pointed downwards, like they were steadying him or lowering him. --Crazyaspie 22:27, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
  • The way I saw it, Sylar was clearly using TK. Like Crazyaspie said, Nathan lands with his arms out, while Sylar looked as if he has to 'push' himself up. It actually looked like when Iron Man lands (slowly), when I think about it. Mike 22:29, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
    • that makes sense, i just wasnt really noticing it i guess. --Steven0328 22:31, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
      • No matter. If you haven't noticed, some little things like this can be confusing for some. :) Mike 22:39, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Definitely not clearly. Nearly anyone's first impression would have been flight. It's up in the air, I don't think we could say one or the other at the moment. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:44, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Well unless Sylar has developed another ability letting him steal/absorb powers, there's no way he could have obtained flight from Nathan. We know that Sylar does have access to some form of empathic mimicry, but he's only used that, what, once? And then ended up killing her and reverting to can-opener-man. I understand that the first impression on anyone but someone who has been following the show since the beginning AND reading up on the BTEs and stuff would think it to be flight, but I'm just saying it would more likely be a use of TK (which we've already seen heard of). Mike 22:58, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
      • One interpretation that I considered was that he absorbed the power from Nathan through empathy during the fight (see: shape-shifting). First, though, Peter stole Sylar's abilities. And then Sylar stole flight and flew out the window; leaving Peter powerless to save his brother. Part of me thinks that this scenario may very well be played out in an upcoming graphic novel. Nevertheless, I wasn't paying attention too well, it probably was just TK or that unexplained power Sylar took that allows his to sort of teleport into Danko's car.--Halfxwitted 22:54, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
      • ^Not a power... --Action Figure 23:08, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
        • I agree. I'm still pretty convinced that that was for dramatic effect. Nothing more. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 23:10, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• I suppose you can submit it to CBR for clarification, but Sylar has used telekinesis to "levitate" many times in the past. No reason to believe this was any different. (Admin 22:56, 27 April 2009 (EDT))
• I don't doubt it's levitation and it probably was; given the explanation with the different landings of each character. I just think that it would be too difficult for 'Nathan' to accept that suddenly he can't fly at super-speeds anymore but rather merely levitate himself. --Halfxwitted 23:27, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

In Season 3 week 29 of BTE they throw around the Idea that Sylar aquired a few new abilities acting as a building 26 agent, he could have acquired Puppet Master and Flight from a few of his targets. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:41, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Hiro question

Maybe I missed it but was it ever explained why Hiro stopped time in order to "save" Noah from the tranquilizer? It does seems like Hiro's M.O. to risk his life to save another but I was under the impression he was leading everyone out of building 26.--Halfxwitted 22:43, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

• He was taking Danko out. I'm not sure exactly how it was that Hiro knew Danko was "veelain" (yup) and Noah needed saving... unless I've forgotten something from earlier this volume... Oh, with the plane crash, and all the nonsense after that, he's known Danko was bad and took him out. We'll find out a solid answer later I suppose. Mike 23:01, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
• If you walked in and saw somebody you didn't know trying to stab a person you KNEW, and who was a good guy, with something, wouldn't you try to stop him before it was too late? --Crazyaspie 23:32, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Nathan / Sylar

How do we handle the Nathan/Sylar division, next season? Do we treat Nathan as dead, but still treat him as a Jessica-like subconscious (well, the *main* conscious actually)? Do we edit Sylar's page with all "Nathan" appearances next season, even in the unlikely event that nothing Sylary happens?

Right now (or when I started this discussion), Nathan is noted to be dead, and Sylar is noted to have been mindwiped into believing he's Nathan.--Tim Thomason 00:30, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

• I think Sylar needs to stay as Sylar. He may be hypnotized into remaining as Nathan for a while, but he still has all of Sylar's abilities.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:41, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
• Interesting point you bring up, MiamiVolts. I predict Sylar must start all over and re-collect new powers (except perhaps for TK [and/or flight since his brain believes he is Nathan] and intuitive aptitude; those seem to stick). --Halfxwitted 00:56, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I think the game's over once the first time he cuts himself shaving and automatically regenerates. He's already acting out of character, interested in clocks.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:59, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
    • • Not necessarily. If he believed that he was Nathan, then he would have no memory of taking that power from Claire, so from his perspective it would just be the emergence of a new ability. Sylar has the genetic information for all the powers he possessed up until that time, but he lacks the memory or knowledge that he has them or how to use them. Sylar retained telekenisis after being infected with the shanti virus because the guilt and trauma of killing Brian Davis ingrained it into his genes. But if you remember during the scene where Matt Parkman was erasing his memories and his life was flashing before his eyes, that memory was erased too. So 'Nathan' would not have access to telekinesis or any other abilities besides Flight, Intuitive aptitude, and maybe clairsentience until he discovers or re-obtains them. -Barbedknives (talk)01:12, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I thought the game would be over as soon as someone called him "Nathan."--Tim Thomason 01:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Tingling isn't something that you'd pay attention to very much (granted, he'd probably be detecting lies all day, being a politician and all). Advic 01:26, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
        • I say reguardless it's Sylar, Angela didn't give birth to him, he can't pass a paternity test for Monty and Simon (well I don't think he can), and he can't fly, and I'm talking real flight, not self propulsion. I think the indication of clocks is evidence enough that Sylar will return one day, so everything that this 'Nathan' does next season should be on the Sylar page, just with a small note on the bottom reminding all veiwers that it's really Sylar...and maybe we should go ahead and just duplicate it on the real Nathan page too. Put the episodes on both of their pages as most characters belive it is really Nathan, but all fans know who he truly is. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck...then it could be a shapeshifter with implanted memories.--Anthony Gooch 01:27, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
          • Great point, but I still think it is going to be too confusing to treat him as Sylar until he completely reverts back. For one thing, Adrian Pasdar is portraying a character who is essentially a groggy, burnt out Nathan Petrelli with a tinge of Sylar. Fans know Adrian as Nathan, and with the memories of Nathan he is for all intents and purposes, Nathan Petrelli, until he develops a penchant for serial killing or remembers that he is Sylar, I think we should treat him as Nathan with a small note somewhere indicating that he was Sylar. -Barbedknives (talk)01:34, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Ya gotta remember that everything that makes Sylar "Sylar" is gone, memories, feelings, and that he really believes he is Nathan. So even if he did use a power he would have no idea what is going on. And Nathan saw Sylars body burn so the only ppl who knew that there was a Dead Doppleganger out there was Angela, Noah and Danko.. he'll have to do alot of digging b4 he truly beleives hes Sylar
    • Don't forget Matt. Advic 02:21, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

I see your point. Although we have an entire summer to plan this out, I'd like to see where everyone stands on this topic with that game all of us wiki-ers like to play: Sign this Consensus Check--Anthony Gooch 02:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Where should Nathan/Sylar's volume 5 summaries go?

In Nathan Petrelli's page (with a disclaimer)
I say treat it like how we did for Penny while she was impersonating Donna. He has the mind and body of nathan, even if it's sylar's original body. So yes, for now it's the same as nikki/jessica, in that Sylar is being repressed and Nathan has overwritten him.--Piemanmoo 02:27, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

• We didn't know Penny was impersonating Donna or what was happening with Nikki/Jessica, so those are different situations. This is very similar to how Sylar impersonated Nathan in the explosion future, so we should keep the name Sylar as we did then.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:35, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

In Sylar's page (with a disclaimer)

• Nathan is dead, fellows. Sad, but true. Besides, we made no such notes in pages of Danko, Claire or Sandra. -- Altes 02:25, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
• We know it's Sylar, and a few characters know it's Sylar too. Also, we have already kept the name as Sylar for "Sylar (explosion future)", so we have a basis to repeat. Since there is no consensus to change that, we need to follow suit.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:35, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

In both of their pages (with disclaimers)

• Agree, we know it's Sy, characters think it's Nate--Anthony Gooch 02:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
• That disclaimer better be friggin huge. Maybe use a third "Sythan" page as a template to cut down editing time too. Advic 02:21, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

In Nathan's page and only after he realizes he's Sylar, proceeding summaries in Sylar's page

Does Peter know that Sylar's mind has been erased and he's now Sylar?

While everyone was standing around the funeral pyre and "Sylar's body" was being burnt we saw Peter glaring and in a not-so-happy manner. Does he know about what his mother has done now?

I really like this twist. I think the next volume will definitely be redemption for the show. Everything's back to being really interesting and I like it. Kudos to Bryan Fuller for saving my favorite show!--Jk84panhead 00:55, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

• If he doesn't already, he will. As soon as he touches 'Nathan' he will discover that he has multiple abilities, all of which he knew Sylar had. Unless his ability replicates all of the abilities a single person has, like I believe. -Barbedknives (talk)02:15, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

was Sylar using TK or puppet master?

making Claire pour wine and stuff, it looked like puppeteering, but the sounds were more like tk. Thoughts? --Piemanmoo 01:54, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

• Puppetry:Ham::TK:spam...Meaning TK is the imitation in reguards to Puppetry, sorry analogies are on my placement exam lol.--Anthony Gooch 02:06, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I say Puppetry --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:13, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Nathan's last words

"I love you Pete, you know that." Oh damn... --JLYK 14:11, 28 April 2009 (EST)

• More like "Ahhh, ugh, *crash*ow, *slice*gargle, gargle, gargle, ugh." lol
  No, I'm kidding, but I think it's definatly worth being noted on his MQ.--Anthony Gooch 02:17, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Major Death for Season Three

• Nathan? He's still (fake) alive!
• Tracy? Hard to tell, either dead and Barbara or has water manipulation.
• Sylar? Closest to dead as far as I can tell.

No Claire's blood? No Haitian!

To all you complaining about Matt and Angela not using Claire's blood to revive Nathan, you're missing on the glaring flaw that they DIDN'T THINK TO USE THE HAITIAN TO TAKE OUT SYLAR! I mean seriously, wtf, that's how they took Arthur out, and he was leagues above Sylar in terms of abilities. But instead they choose to use a convoluted forced mind transfer to halfway bring Nathan back while taking out Sylar, not realizing how overly complex and very dangerous and backfire-probable the whole idea was. Also, how would Haitian's ability affect shape-shifting? Would it revert them to their original form? Disuss. -Barbedknives (talk)03:06, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

• And where is the Haitian right now? They had less than a day to stop Sylar, and the Haitian is all the way in Haiti. They used what they had. --Crazyaspie 03:40, 28 April 2009 (EDT)