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Trivia question

So I figured I may as well put up the checklist, although it's pretty early. Anyways, I had a question on the trivia for this episode; (and I may be wrong, so correct me if I am) but should we mention the fact that this is the first episode that directly and blatanly refers to a character (Sylar).--Anthony Gooch 20:05, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Not sure if it is. I do know this is the first episode where Sylar and Nathan share a scene with each other for the first time. Aka interacting with one another. Also it seems that Ando is the first character to have a super hero name if you don't count Micah/Rebel. --OutbackZack 22:08, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Or Gabriel/Sylar, Monica/St.Joan, Claire/Comes-back-to-life Barbie (j/k on that last one, but that would be an AWESOME superhero name). --Crazyaspie 23:02, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
      • But I think Ando is the only one to take up a "super hero" name. Micha just suggested (if I'm correct) to Monica.--OutbackZack 03:45, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

well actually there is an episode called hiros that could count as hiro`s name in the episode title

  • Ah, good point! Scratch this.--Anthony Gooch 22:25, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
    • How about this being the first time Sylar can shapeshift clothes... wtf was up with that? --Action Figure 22:39, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Maybe it involves both DNA and matter. --BoomerDay 22:43, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
        • maybe he's just getting better at using the ability... --Peter
      • So absorbing DNA allows him to shapeshift his clothing.... no, it was a matter of convenience for the episode. The writers even said in a recent BTE that Sylar CANNOT ss clothing and they made sure of that limitation at the writer's table... --Action Figure 22:54, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
        • Exactly. They took creative liberties here. Though it would have been crazier if he COULDN'T shift clothes, and that he kept changing between his mother's clothes and his own... that would make it even more Norman Bates-ish. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:56, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
        • Which is exactly what I told my friend they were going for, and I would have liked to see. Sylar traipsing around in his mom's sweater... :) --Action Figure 22:57, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
        • They have told half truths (or changed their minds) in BTE's before. Besides, it makes it easy. Indeed, it would be troublesome for Sylar to have to change clothes EVERY SINGLE TIME he shifted. Especially to Micah or his mom. --Crazyaspie 23:00, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

What about the actual incorperation of the title screen...trivial?--Anthony Gooch 23:29, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Another "superhero name" (the best one): baby touch-and-go -- Signyour Poste

It should definately be noted the comparison of Sylar's creepy mom-confessions with the movie Psycho --Crazyaspie 23:30, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

  • That's exactly what i was thinking! -- Signyour Poste

Sylar + Super Speed?

How is sylar moving so fast? Super speed? --Peter

  • Doubt it --BoomerDay 21:32, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
    • We're speculating that somewhere (off camera) he picked up some sort of teleportation...majorly b/c of the scene where he escapes Danko's car so quickly and was suddenly on the rooftop--Anthony Gooch 22:04, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
      • in this episode as well, however, he went from a ground floor to wherever Micah was in moments. Personally, I think something is up... --Peter
        • A question to be solved in much later episode or in a graphic novel...the writers attempt to taunt us.--Anthony Gooch 22:09, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
          • For the latter, he could just scale the building with telekinesis. He's done it before. --Action Figure 22:39, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
            • Escaping Danko's car (without opening or closing the door) and TK jumping to a building all within a spilt second, I doubt it...I think the writers are trying to lead us to something: Danko's car scene, appearing behind Micah, getting in Tom's apartment.--Anthony Gooch 22:55, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
            • That would be the obvious answer, he could just used telekinesis against the ground and that would push him upward. Or he could be like Batman like Action Figure said.--Madheroesfan 07:13, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I blame the Danko scene on poor editing. But Sylar has always had the Batman-Disappears-When-You-Aren't-Looking non-ability. --Action Figure 22:58, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I apologize in advance cause this will sound harsh and rude: what's the matter with you people??? BTE already confirmed Sylar doesn't have a teleportation ability, why do you insist on speculating on that??? Geez! Sorry, had to vent. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:17, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • In my book, it isn't rude if it's correct. ;) --Action Figure 15:23, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I'm covering by bases, I'm that neurotic and I don't want people b****ing about it to me later. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
        • This obviously isn't going to be correct, but seeing as sylar can change his shape, then he should be able to give himself new abilities (bearing in mind he didn't have it in Danko scene), then again he shouldn't be changing DNA, cause otherwise the analyst wouldn't have been able to tell Noah that the blood on the spike was James Martins.--Fr0z3nB0nes 17:38, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Weird...

...Nice episode, but how did Sylar survive the the knife? And what's wrong with Hiro? I guess we'll find out next week! --BoomerDay 22:39, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Maybe baby Parkman's ability has a statue of limitations....like an experation date. Hiro was rubbing his head through out the episode, and could Sylar rcr be evolving, or maybe Danko missed that "miniscule" part of the back of the head Sylar talked about.--Anthony Gooch 22:48, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I thought it was because Ando's hand was on Hiro's shoulder when he tried to use his ability.--Riddler 00:54, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

I'd guess it has something to do with the shapeshifting changing him like with the extra tooth and his eye staying blue. Bacon warrior 05:14, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

I figured Sylar must have moved his brain somewhere else with shapeshifting. Is that too weird? Uh, and I agree with Riddler - Hiro probably has more difficulty stopping time when he has to stop it for two people (possibly Ando's power "fixes" this). Oh, and the word "weird" is spelled a weird way. :P --Cosmic AC 06:20, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

  • I meant Ando's supercharging.--Riddler 14:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Thats what I though too, perhaps Ando has touch with his hands for his power to work. I'm not sure but the sound of Hiro's power sounded like car wheels screeching (as if he's broken). Could it be a brain tuma like Charlie, but then again Ishi's (i think his mothers name) healing should have cured that. Maybe he's got the Shanti virus?
      • Charlie didn't have a tumor, she had a blood clot in her brain that was waiting to burst into an aneurysm. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:40, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • For what it's worth, Heroes Interactive:I Am Sylar asked participants how they thought Sylar survived. Choices were either that Danko missed the spot, or that Sylar had developed a new ability. Responses were split almost right down the middle--I think 48% for Danko's aim, and 52% for a new power. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:51, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

New ability

The guy that Sylar met (who thought he was Rebel - Tim Miller?) had a new ability. Wikipedia calls it Disintegration. I think that's an okay name.. --Peter

Describes it perfectly fine, I think... though for future reference, we shouldn't always go to Wikipedia for power names. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:50, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
Wikipedia called him Tim...I thought his name was Tom?--Anthony Gooch 22:51, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

We already have disintegration touch, then again. --Crazylicious 23:09, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

  • So I'm thinking we shouldn't overlap abilities!--Anthony Gooch 23:14, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Well one requires touch while the other doesn't... I don't see why we shouldn't have similarly named abilities if it's justified (precognition/precognitive dreaming, for example). Disintegration is fine by me. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 23:32, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

The ability seemed to hit the resonant frequency of the object until it became unstable and fell apart. Maybe the ability should be called mechanical or harmonic resonance. Just a thought. - Aquifex

  • Lol...Precog. and Precog dreaming are examples of disasters...I think they are still arguing on those pages about name changes...haha, But I still see your point. I'll be fine with whatever everone else settling on.--Anthony Gooch 23:52, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
  • LOL. I find it funny noone's suggested "Shattering" yet. After the whole ordeal with shattering, we actually have a power that has a shattering effect actually made for it, and it's not even thought of.--Riddler 00:53, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

I personally think it was something like frequency manipulation, or sound manipulation, where the user causes a vibration in the object at the sound frequency where it shatters. Much like sound breaking glass. Dean 02:04, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

    • Well then Sylar didnt think thats what the ability was, because he can already do that. --Action Figure 03:20, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Just a note that Sylar gained shattering back when he first started killing people but lost that power due to the Shanti Virus.--Halfxwitted 16:02, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Shattering was much different than this ability. It was more like shattering than frequency manipulation. Dean 01:40, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I meant he already has the ability to manipulate sound. I know he lost trevor's. He has only bothered using sound manipulation once in a GN. --Action Figure 10:13, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

Samson?

I'm pretty sure that in one of the recent BTEs, they said Samson would be returning again in this volume... and that it would be in this episode. But obviously, we didn't see him... mistake or what? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:51, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

  • He's on the IMDB cast list. He probably had a scene that was cut. :( --Crazyaspie 22:57, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
    • I hope he at least appears in the finale. His whole plotline was a major letdown... -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:58, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
      • IMDB is user submitted info. They probably just read that, too and made the entry. --Action Figure 22:59, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

I Am Sylar

It could be fun to put in the trivia how many times "I Am Sylar" was said. Besides the opening title and the blood writing on the wall, how many times was it mentioned? --Crazyaspie 02:53, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

His arm. Unless you count that as the "opening title". Otherwise, wasn't that it?--VanguardLogo.pnganguard 16:44, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

lead image

I think that instead of the two Nathans we have now, we should use the image of I AM SYLAR written on the wall in tom's blood. It seems to fit the episode's theme a bit more.--Piemanmoo 05:10, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

    • Agreed. Or when he cut it into his hand.
  • Do you like the one i put up? or do you want it with the focus on the wall, or Sylar cutting into his hand?--Madheroesfan 07:10, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Isn't it redundant and a bit overkill to have both the leadimage and the titleimage focusing on the same phrase? With the two Nathan's it gives a little different perspective into Sylar's identity struggle.--HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 04/21/2009 08:46 (EST)
      • I like the image that's up there now...though the watermark needs to be removed and the picture can stand to be lightened. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:49, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I can lighten the image but i don't know how to remove watermarks.--Madheroesfan 21:56, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
        • No worries, I'll take care of it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:29, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
          • thanks. i just put up a lightened image named I_Am_Sylar2_lightened.jpg, just for the option.--Madheroesfan 22:56, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
            • When reuploading a new version of an image, it's best to upload it over the old image, rather than uploading a whole new image. You can do this by scrolling down just past the file history and clicking on the "Upload a new version of this file" . Thanks so much! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:07, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
              • Thanks, i'm kinda new to this wiki thing.--Madheroesfan 06:40, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

Summary

It's all about Sylar. Could somebody fix it?

--- The whole story arc was about Sylar. Not that I had anything to do with the summary. --Cosmic AC 06:24, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Fixed. --Radicell 06:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Has Sylar gone mad?

Why did he keep shifting into his mother, himself, his mother and himself again and again just to "talk to his mother"? --JLYK 19:32, 21 April 2009 (EST)

  • Missing his adoptive mom? Or maybe posing as so many different people really drives him crazy? Wouldn't anyone go insane? -- Altes 10:26, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Danko told him he needed to find an anchor to remind him of who he was. When he got his mother's stuff, he realized his anchor was her. "Virginia" even says, "So that's why you lost yourself" when Sylar states that she was the only woman who ever loved him for who he was. So, yes, he's gone insane but there is a method to his madness. --Crazyaspie 19:50, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Well first and foremost its a tribute to Psycho, with Sylar being Norman Bates and "mother" being his mother and Sylar finally giving in to her. It was to show how lost and confused Sylar is/was atm.--Madheroesfan 21:59, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

What if...

Sylar kills the president. X_X The irony. --JLYK 20:37, 21 April 2009 (EST)

  • No, even Heroes won't go that far. -- Altes 10:25, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • What is the irony and why wouldn't they go that far? --Action Figure 11:55, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Did anyone pick up on the line where they said that 'The President likes Change'? --Smouvy 4:50, 21 April 2009

Mohinder Captured Again

Can I get a count on how many times Mohinder has been apprehended? It's getting sad, lol. GabrielPetrelli 10:39, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Once in first episode, they take him when they interogate Noah, Danko tricks him into the room with all the heroes subdued, and this episode I think. So Four. Poor Mo. And other characterrs have held him captive. --345tom 15:57, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • They need to give him a better role next season and when the agents ambushed him at Coyote Sands he COULD'VE shot through the ceiling with his super jump thing.
    • Mohinder has definitely had it rough lately! It is my claim that he the most fleshed out and psychologically profound character on the show. (Though most people choose to follow the Claire, Hiro, and even Sylar path, I prefer the road less traveled.) Mohinder has potential. In fact, in a world that there were no copyrights and it was not morally wrong (and I had permission from Tim Kring of course), I would steal the character and put him in one of my own works! (I mean that in absolutely no offence to Tim and the crew. I believe that they are doing an outstanding job, but I do hope they explore the possibilities of Mohinder’s character.) Who knows, maybe Mohinder will find “redemption” in this next volume. (Or at least an actual love interest that will turn his life around.) --Mohinder613 (talk) 01:19, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Well we know how the last love interest turned out... --Action Figure 10:16, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Alright, scratch that. Tim himself has admitted that Heroes doesn’t do great with romances. We do not need another Maya. Still, I do hope Mohinder gets some inspiration to become the hero that we all know he can be. (Maybe a puppy would give his life purpose…) --Mohinder613 (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

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I'm including Amy Sloan from Nowhere Man, FYI. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:46, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

  • This is Agent Harper and not the agent number VI. I think someone has to change the photo name so that the wrong photo may not appear here. --Janrodrigo 11:19, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Thanks, Janrodrigo. I had forgotten that we changed #6 to Harper. The image name doesn't matter so much...so long as it's not the wrong image. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:08, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
      • You're welcome RGS :) --Janrodrigo 23:39, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Synopsis

I finished the order with synopsis but I wrote as invisible because they are just plots. I'm too tired and kind of busy so didn't have time nor the energy to make full sentences, write all the details and put all the appropriate internal links. I tried to not miss any point and especially to put them in correct order. I hope it helps. --Janrodrigo 12:05, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Hiro, Ando, Sylar & Claire...

I think Ando should supercharge Hiro!

Sylar + Claire = Noah ?

the episode was great! I loved the final scene! --Themd 13:00, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Yeah, i've been waiting for Ando to charge Hiro for a while, it seems the obvious thing to do. And UGH! the thought you claire + sylar = Noah, I find is just disturbing. I dunno why, it just seems revolting. But yeah, the final scene was great, as well as the whole episode, another great one I think. --Darkphase 14:07, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • How exactly would supercharging Hiro's ability work? Supercharging doesn't mean gain teleportation or have better control over stopping time, it means you'd have more to deal with, like when Ando supercharged Matt's ability and he got a headache from all the thoughts in his head.--Madheroesfan 06:47, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Why not? It's possible Ando could jumpstart Hiro's natural ability of teleportation, just like Baby Parkman did with Time Control. Supercharging increases their ability, makes it stronger/faster, working over longer distances etc. If supercharged, potentially that is exactly what could happen. Maybe he wouldn't have to physically touch someone to allow them to join in time suspension, or maybe it will allow him to rewind/forward time like a DVR, what if he is able to stop time but make certain objects move in real time while everyone else is still frozen? I am not saying this is what will happen, but just offering ideas. Also, Matt wasn't prepared what was going to happen when he was supercharged and why he ended up overwhelmed; with time and preperation, I would think he'd be able to hone his ability to work even more while Ando-charged (ie. instead of controlling a room full of people, maybe it's an entire building or city block). I would personally like to see baby Matt Parkman and Ando both using their abilities on Hiro at the same time, maybe that could be enough to jumpstart his teleportation. --Denali 10:36, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Come on... There's something wrong with Hiro and his power. Maybe Ando and Matt shouldn't use their abilities on him for now, they may make it only worse. -- Altes 14:06, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
        • ...Hiro wouldn't have gotten back his time-stop ability if it wasn't for Baby Parkman. --Denali 11:13, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

non us viewers

  • where can i watch the the episode if im not a us viewer please can someone tell me please--Cj31094 16:59, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Use Hotspot shield if not in the us. Just install it, set your system time to Arizona and go onto nbc.com and watch Heroes, works a treat. Make sure you swithc to arizona before you launch the program everytime.--Fr0z3nB0nes 17:31, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • how? can you give exact instructions please --Cj31094 17:36, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I download them off uTorrent then buy the season box set when it comes out (i didn't buy season 2 cos it was a total ripoff, full price for a half season???Aus.), so no harm done. isohunt works a treat.

I Am Spock?

This episodes title is very similar to the title of Leonard Nemoy's Autobiography, I Am Spock, seeing as Zachary Quinto is playing Spock in the Star Trek movie, it seems likely to me that the episode title is a reference. Opinions? --Ant1mony 05:56, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Considering how much it featured in the episode, I think not. But it's possible. -- Tristan0709 talk 06:07, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
  • ROFL maybe. But I believe it's a coincidence. -- Altes 08:59, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
  • Probably deserves a mention in the notes. -- Signyour Poste

Trivia: Previously on Heroes

It says that it's the first episode to have a scene which hasn't been shown yet in "Previously On". But I remember a similar case in the episode "The Line". RIght in the end of "Previously On", Caitlin mourns Ricky's death, and Peter says, "The woman who did it was looking for me", and after few seconds this scene is shown. Or did I get something wrong... -- Altes 04:29, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

  • No that happened. I know it happened twice in Villains, first in "Angels and Monsters" I believe, a quick scene with Claire and May where Claire thanks May for getting her out with and alibi, basically; it also happened in "Eris Quod Sum," a scene where Claire and Sandra find a Pineherst card at Doyle's Theater. Those are just two occurences I can think of, so its clearly not the first time this has happened. --Skullman1392 07:58, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
  • I believe the commentary said that this was the first time a scene was shot specifically for the "Previously On" - which I believe is a different case. --Relomy 22:39, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

"No electricity means no machines"...?

I only just realized this... in the scene where Danko's team moves in to capture Micah, they shut off the electricity, and Danko states that "no electricity means no machines," implying that Micah couldn't use his power if machines weren't powered. However, hasn't he been shown to use a broken telephone and a broken elevator before? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 11:58, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

I think that the telephone and elevator already had some electricity since they were probably running on the same electrical power grid. They cut out the electricity throughout the whole building therefor Micah couldn't help with his power. I hope that helps. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 14:44, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

He may be able to fix a broken machine, but he cannot use one if it's turned off. No electricity. No machines. No control over them. -- Altes 03:54, 27 April 2009 (EDT)