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	Peter replicates the abilities of others.

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This is currently the only leads on his new ability, please keep it open for discussion - Arkillion. ( I made the article, so contact me for any serious changes).

Contradiction

Wouldn't this contradict a comment that Mohinder stated saying that a persons ability is influenced by the DNA in his/her body? If this is true Peter should have regained Empathic Mimicry minus the abilities he has already mimicked.- Yippee ki ya

The formula was synthetic and as far as we know synthetic formulas aren't EXACTLY similar to an original power, Mohinder's power made him mutate and grow scales and now that he has the real formula inside him he has just super strength and endurance as far as we know. Currently the speculation is that Peter's power is empathic mimicry but temporary and only physically and the shunt may of caused this, who knows. - Arkillion

Couldn't peter be using a variation of power absorption (unknown source) through Empathic mimicry? Because it seems that when a power is mimicked through empathy it needs refining I.E. Elle guiding Sylar, Claude teaching Peter. And when a power is mimicked through Power Absorption it can be used to its full potential nearly instantly I.E. When Arthur used Electrical Manipulation straight after he had taken Peters ability's.- Yippee ki ya

I think that Yippee has a valid theory going. It could quite possibly be that this is simply a new aspect to Peter's ability. Numerous characters from the show have started with one simple ability that has several presentations. An example being Matt's ability to read minds and now put thoughts into peoples heads. Claire's ability to heal as well as her blood being a cure all. I think the name should remain empathic mimicry (NOT Peter's Ability) GraceRunner4000

I'm sorry Grace but that kind of makes no sense to be honest... So his power allows him to mimic abilities from those in proximity by thinking of them and mimicking what he saw them do, and now it's evolved as a presentation so that he can take powers from physically touching someone?

Long Range - > Short Range Mentally -> Physically

I don't think that qualifies as being better.. I suppose a Long Range Empathic Mimicry with instant use/experience of the power can be done.

My personal theory is that not only can he mimic powers by touch but he can give them via empathy and that's how Hiro may get a new power >_> by supercharging with Ando or giving him an ability - Arkillion

I don't think we should list this Peter's ability. There's no other example of someone changing core abilities, saying it's Peter's ability states that he no longer has empathic mimicry, which may or may not be true, saying he got those new abilities through unknown means is 100% correct and doesn't invalidate anything we already know about his ability history, we can't change anything if it invalidates something we already know. Right now, it's nothing but speculative that he has a different ability, as I said already, the "through unknown means" explains it perfectly and we don't risk listing something wrong. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:43, 4 February 2009 (EST)

I'm feeling that Peter has, in fact, lost empathic mimicry. However, he has acquired a modified version of Arthur's power, the difference being that Peter doesn't steal like his dad does. As for only being able to hold one ability at a time, I think this may be part of the ability being new to Peter, and that with time, he will be able to hold multiple abilities like he could in the past, as well as being able to retain them permanently instead of the temporary use he has now. - EValentino 17:08, 5 February 2009 (EST)

I am going to state my opinion again, this time updated. I think that, since peter is new to his power again, that he can only use one power at a time again (like at the end of the episode, why didn't he just fly?), and that physical contact is necessary. And I just resaw the finale from last year and he did fly across the room I believe. --(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 20:53, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Nope, he didn't fly across the room at Pinehearst in that scene from Dual. He injected himself, ran to Nathan, grabbed him, and flew out of the building. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:31, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Still Empathic Mimicry?

I don't think this is a new power altogether guys. I mean, it isn't through only physical contact. He flew with Nathan's power without touch between the two. I think the "touching glow thingy" is just the visual artists finally showing what empathic mimicry "looks like". I believe, in almost every aspect, it is still empathic mimicry.--(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 15:47, 4 February 2009 (EST)

I have to agree, Peter's and Sylar's powers have practicly no limits and there for the capacity to alter or expaind their powers is always present. Peter was under the influense of drugs, he wouldn't have fully accepted Mohinder's gift in the taxi, otherwise it would have needed to be explained to him. this 'new' power kis just another way to use his initial ability. something like this was seen when Sylar took Elle's power with out killing.Halfbreed1426 21:06, 4 February 2009
- While I am partially prone to say this too, anything we say on the matter that has not been revealed in an episode/GN/Interview is speculation, so the page stays. Halfbreed, please remember to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (--~~~~ ). -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/-
  - Actually, Peter did touch Nathan before he flew. In Dual, Peter injected himself with the formula, ran and grabbed Nathan, then flew out of Pinehearst. Heroes has always used effects that are unique to certain powers (Matt's camera jumps, Nathan's flying "swoosh", VFX for Hiro's ability). This is a new one that we haven't really seen before. More importantly, Peter has always been able to hold on to more than one power. Now, he doesn't seem to be able to--he didn't have any more strength when he got Tracy's freezing power, and he was afraid of being sucked out of the plane, despite having previously been able to fly. I also know that the producers have always been interested in grounding Peter, seeing as he's been deemed as being "too powerful"--this is a perfect way to do it. Of course, I could be wrong, and we'll hopefully learn more next week...but I think for now we're safe in not calling it empathic mimicry. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2009 (EST)
    - I did receive confirmation of some sort that the observations we made were intentional and aspects of this new ability. This confirmation included that as of this afternoon the writers didn't have a specific name for his new ability yet. (Admin 17:18, 4 February 2009 (EST))
      - Thanks, Admin. That's good to know. It's encouraging to know that we're on the right track. I'm also fine with no new name. (I've never been under the assumption that every ability needs a name.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:37, 4 February 2009 (EST)
        While I agree that this shouldn't have a name yet, I think 'Power Mimicry' is a good name to describe this. But I'm sure in the next few episodes we'll get more information on the extent of his new ability. --Powermimic 19:49, 4 February 2009 (EST)
        Power mimicry is pretty good, but if it is a one-at-a-time deal, then perhaps something to the effect of temporary power mimicry or selective power mimicry might be more accurate. That said, we're sure to see more of this power in the coming weeks. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 12:07, 5 February 2009 (EST)

I think it might be (Just a Random theroy, dont wanna start new page incase it gets delted in a week or so),But it could be power transfer.--Drwho113
For this "new power" does he also take the powers from them or just absorbs them?
- Doubt it as Nathan could still fly after Peter absorbed his ability to get them out of Pineherst Garthak 10:10, 6 February 2009 (EST)

I believe that this is his power developing again. We never saw how he gained his mother's power or even Nathan's. Maybe it starts and grows into being able to hold more. And then eventually how it was? Three 18:29, 6 February 2009 (EST)

It is more than posible that he just lost control of the power that he gained from Mohinder, not the power it self. In Genesis, Peter needed to be near the source of the mimiced power, due to the fact that he is now selectively taking abilities he could only conciously use one at a time. after being hit by the capture team member, he lost consious control and, by accident, took Tracy's ability, and with out proper use, froze the wall and made it shatter. Halfbreed1426 11:27, 7 February 2009 (EST)
- Admin said he received confirmation (see here) that our observations (including that Peter can only hold on to one ability at a time) were correct and that those changes were intentional. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:36, 7 February 2009 (EST)

i think that if he touches matt jr his original power empathic mimicry will return. 24 march 2009

Seriously....is this article a joke?

I mean I would understand if this was something unique that doesn't have any similarity to any other ability, but come on. This looks exactly like Arthur's ability 100%. This new one is just a waste of space. Horrorman 17:29, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Not really. It seems to be the common thinking that with this ability, Peter can only hold onto one ability at a time. This was supported in the show, when Peter got his ass handed to him after taking Tracy's ability, and when he couldn't just fly back into the plane when he was about to fall out. It's definitely different. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:32, 4 February 2009 (EST)

And as Admin stated above, these observations were intentional. It's very similar to power absorption, but it's not power absorption. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)

That, and when Arthur would take an ability, the victim would lose it. We haven't that with Peter taking abilities yet. Less importantly, but still significantly, the visual effects are different for the two powers. When Arthur would steal an ability, whisps would flow from the victim to Arthur--almost as though it was the person's "spirit" or a figment of that person. Those whisps were often external. With Peter, the visual flow never left the hands; the effect was somewhat different. Additionally, Admin said he received confirmation that this is a new power (see here). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:41, 4 February 2009 (EST)

When Arthur touched someone and stole their power you could usually see an act of pain upon the person aswell as part of their sort of "spirit" leaving them such as with Maya. Of course Peter touched by Tracy and Mohinder and you only saw light illuminating their hands this was probably done to show something happened like with Matt's telepathy. - Arkillion

What this looks like is a sort of "middle-ground" between the two. Perhaps this is Peter's original power, but because it was returned synthetically, it is slightly less powerful than before. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 18:11, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Interesting Theory but it still dulls it down to a simple fact that Peter thought of Mohinder and touched him for his power, showing us that he PROBABLY knew his power but chose not to use it, however when he touched Tracy he didn't even think of her he just had her power so I'm guessing this is Empathic mimicry but physically with a limitation - Arkillion.

I suspect it's because of an altered formula that Peter now has this "Tactile Mimicry" allowing him to absorb abilities through physical contact, he has the abilities in there, he just needs to learn how to trigger them using this new method, the effect for absorbing them didn't show when Mohinder grabbed Peter to stop him from being sucked out, so it is possible that it's still there and the original owner still has theirs.--Garthak 14:06, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Though Arthur stole Peter's abilities, I doubt Peter lost the genetic imprint required for abilities. I just think that when he took the formula, he regained a variation of his power. Maybe his ability is still empathic but it's just not psionic anymore but tactile, even though I don't like the word tactile. Or maybe even, this is how his ability first manifested--through touch. I mean, look at it this way: babies connect with someone empathically through touch, right? Wouldn't it be wierd if a baby empathized with someone by just being around them. Possibly, his powers started out on by simply touching another and connecting with them that way, and as he grew, he began to connect emotionally, not necessarily by touch, but by being around people. This basically could be a reboot. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but with my theory, it makes senses. But just in case, some of you guys aren't so sure about my theory, didn't Peter touch everybody he mimicked in the past somewhere along the line (i.e. Elle, Charles, Claire, Nathan, Angela, Sylar, Isaac, Hiro, Claude, Niki, Flint, Daphne, etc.) Titan3510 20:39, 6 February 2009 (EST)

One ability at a time

Peter gained Mohinder's strength and fought a guard. Then he gained Tracy's freezing ability--but he didn't seem to have any strength when fighting the guard again. Earlier, he was able to fly, but then was visible worried about being thrown into the sky. I believe these two events are pretty strong evidence that he can only hold on to one ability at a time. Additionally, Admin received some confirmation that the observations are aspects of this Peter's new ability (see here). I assume that part of these observations include only being able to hold on to one ability at a time. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2009 (EST)

That's correct, the point that he only was able to hold onto one ability at a time was one of the observations (e.g. when he suddenly found himself weak when fighting one of the guards) concerning his new ability. (Admin 01:32, 5 February 2009 (EST))
My theory is that Peter is still getting used to his new power, and therefore isn't capable of holding on to more than one ability at a time yet. The other possibility is that, in fact, Peter can only have one at a time. And that makes me sad. EValentino 17:13, 5 February 2009 (EST)
If that's true, seems like the writers found a great way to make Peter a little less powerful. But that's a bit disappointing. But I can live with that. :) --Alen76 10:57, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Personally I can't. Peter was a cool character with his ability, over-powered at times but at least he was a hero. Now Sylar is the most powerful, which means a serial killer with no limits. --Steelymcbeam 11:04, 8 February 2009 (EST)
I have mixed feelings. The new limits are interesting, and Peter WAS too powerful before. But I'm afraid Sylar would make mincemeat of him now.--Cro Magnon 11:26, 8 February 2009 (EST)
- It makes you want to watch and find out, doesn't it! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Don't be worrying. Sylar doesn't seem to want anything to do with Peter anymore. Sylar's always been more powerful, he won most of the fights they had (Kirby plaza hardly counts as a Peter victory, he didn't manage to defeat Sylar, only subdue him slightly) In Dying of the Light, I think Peter only won by using Intuitive Aptitude (Understanding how Lightning works, then unleashing it with a new degree of control) People are gonna argue with me on this, but I don't care. At any rate, I'm doubting there is gonna be many Sylar/Peter battles now, and i like this new power, as Pete was WAY to powerful before. Lightningguy 20:17, 8 February 2009 (EST)
On another note if Peter touched Sylar would he then be able to duplicate his original power? And all the powers he has taken from his victims? or just one? TheHunter 03:38, 9 February 2009 (EST)
Maybe if Peter touched Sylar, he'd gain intuitive aptitude and be able to learn more than one power at a time? EValentino 15:00, 9 February 2009 (EST)
- Yeah, but he might have to do it the same way Sylar does, by slicing open their skull!--Cro Magnon 19:36, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Does this make sense to anyone?

What if this ability is still Empathic mimicry, but it has altered due to his state of mind? If he is no longer willing to connect with people, a severe change from the old Peter, then this may have affected his ability as his is such an emotional power.--Steelymcbeam 02:50, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Admin received confirmation that Peter has a new ability. See here. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:56, 5 February 2009 (EST)
I think its a slightly altered version of Empathic Mimickry but it should have its own page.--WarGrowlmon18 11:18, 5 February 2009 (EST)
Mohinder Suresh's formula combined with Dr Zimmerman's version might have something to do with this.--Garthak 14:04, 5 February 2009 (EST)
It's confirmed to be a 'new' ability, Tim Kring and Milo Ventimiglia mentioned it on the episode commentary. [1]. --Powermimic 20:17, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Tactile Power Mimicry?

Garthak said something very insightfull, tactile mimicry is a good description inso far as to what we have seenEmpathicMimic0

That sounds like someone is mimicing the way another person touches...--Action Figure 19:30, 5 February 2009 (EST)
- It is a simple description of what he has now, could call it Tactile Power Mimicry to prevent confusionGarthak 10:09, 6 February 2009 (EST)
  - It's currently the best describing name for the ability, but agreed that we'd need the "power" in there too, so 'Tactile Power Mimicry'. Powermimic 23:29, 5 February 2009
    - I'm fine with "Peter's ability" for now...especially considering that Admin received confirmation that the writers don't have a specific name for his new ability yet. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2009 (EST)
      - Though I'm no fan of naming abilities by the possessors name, I agree with Ryangibsonstewart. I don't know if any of you guys noticed, but isn't his power similar to Rogue's of the X-Men. Except for that it doesn't harm the absorbee (I know it's not a word but give me a break) and that she can absorb more than one power at a time. Titan3510 20:47, 6 February 2009 (EST)
        There, name is changed...I think adding power was a little Ridiculous but you happen to be right. EmpathicMimic0 19:01, 8 February 2009
  - On second thought, Peter is a mimic either way, since we have 'Power absorption' which is also via touch, (After we get some more info to what Peter can fully do, and if it fits) I think this should just be called 'Power mimicry'. I don't think "Tactile" or "Touch" in the ability name is necessary. --Powermimic 02:26, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Not Empathic in Dual episode

I just rewatched the final episode where Peter saved Nathan - and I just found out that he ran towards Nathan first before flying away, which only proves that he didn't mimic Nathan just be coming near him but by actually having physical contact with him. --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 16:00, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Maybe Power Absorbtion after all?

Here is my theory:

I think that Peter has Power absorption, but doesn't want to take anyone's powers away. Therefore he only takes small amounts of their power and thus can only use them for a short period of time. Maybe when he learns to control his power, he can duplicate powers and he can be the all mighty Peter I like.

Feel free to comment..... SlayrNeo 12:04, 7 February 2009

...But then that's not really power absorbtion at all, is it? Your theory doesn't say anything about him permantly taking abilities from others. Regardless, not only have the writers stated it's a new ability, I doubt they would give any of their heroes the ability to just take away a villians ability. It would make things too easy.--BardinessBoy 12:16, 7 February 2009 (EST)
- It could still be, like when you go to school. You "absorb" the information in the books, but does it vanish in the books? SlayrNeo 00:10, 8 February 2009
Admin said he received confirmation that it is a new ability. (see here). Nice, well thought out theory, though. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/-
Have you checked out Theory:Ability replication? You might want add to that page. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:20, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Just watched Dual

And in the scene where Peter injects himself with the formula, he then gets up and doesn't leap across the flames as previously thought. He flies directly into Nathan, then out of there. No leap! I know the writers have said that he now has a new ability but in my eyes this is a clear example of Empathic Mimicry. Either this is now a plot hole, or it is a snippit showing us that Peter still has his old ability. BTW I watched it in slow motion and normal speed and he clearly flies straight across the flames, no jump.--Steelymcbeam 11:01, 8 February 2009 (EST)

He didn't fly into Nathan... no, he just ran into him. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 11:20, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Watch it carefully, he clearly had left the ground before touching Nathan and then before touching the ground again flies out the window.--Steelymcbeam 11:21, 8 February 2009 (EST)

As I mentioned in Peter's talk page, it could have been a leap. Ando doesn't have flight, yet he jumped very high and very far at Arthur when Hiro was having his memory wiped clean. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)

I just watched it as well. Definitely a leap, though I see where you might get confused. He starts flying the MOMENT he touches Nathan. But he wasn't flying beforehand. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 11:29, 8 February 2009 (EST)

It SURE IS GOOD that he knew he would mimic flight once he TOUCHED Nathan after having just received this new power! </sarcasm> --Action Figure 12:44, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Most likely instinct on this occasion.--Steelymcbeam 12:47, 8 February 2009 (EST)

- I was thinking he thought that he had his original ability back. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 14:29, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  - If he thought that then he could have tried to just mimic Flint and extinguish the flames altogether. -Action Figure 01:38, 9 February 2009 (EST)
    - I don't give Peter enough credit to believe he'd think that. And there has never been a conclusive example of pyrokinesis extinguishing fire, the Flint example has never been confirmed. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:12, 9 February 2009 (EST)
    - Peter acts on instinct, not logic. But in this case, I think the first idea in anyone's mind would be to just fly the hell out of there. Extinguishing the flames makes things longer and more complicated. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 12:10, 9 February 2009 (EST)
      - I just watched Trust in Blood and Peter Confirms that he can only hold onto one ability at a time to Tracy. And is required to touch nathan again to be able to fly away from him. Connorbb 20:10, 9 February 2009 (EST)
        PS. I live in Canada and Trust in Blood aired at 7:00 --Connorbb 20:21, 9 February 2009 (EST)

He surely took Flints power so he wouldnt burn from the side effects of the fire, which is why he could get back up. Or else he would be quite burnt.--345tom 17:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)

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What happens when he touches Sylar?

Would he have intuitive aptitude with all the perks? Bloodbath 04:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)

I was thinking of this on the way to college after this episode, I suspect he would take the original ability of whomever he touches, and will be able to permanently acquire any ability gained with that ability (provided he keeps the ability) so if he started to slice off Ando's brain using Intuitive Aptitude, he would gain Ando's power, but if he touched Mohinder, he would lose it. I don't know if powers transfer through corpses since he would have no telekinesis for brain removal. --Arkillion 10:28, 10 February 2009 (EST)
- Doesnt sylar have a version of empathic mimicry as well though? so would he not get that as well, which means he has his old ability back? which avoids the fact of only having one ability. --345tom 11:22, 10 February 2009 (EST)
  - If Peter wanted he could take hold of all the powers that Sylar posseses by only touching him, or if he found someone with his old power, than he could hold that power for as long as he wanted, indefentely. All he would need is to use Angela's resourses to find whoever has the same power that he used to have.
    - Sylar has his power, that was how he, originally, took elles power. This means that if peter touchs sylar he has his old power which means that his new power wouldnt count for anything.--345tom 17:14, 11 February 2009 (EST)
      - I wouldn't say Sylar has his power, he clearly had to put himself in the other person's situation, Peter would get the ability just by standing next to them. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:53, 11 February 2009 (EST)

Ability Replication?

People have already set it up as replicating abilities so perhaprs the official name should be ability replication. Horrorman 9:10, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Yeah I can live with that.--Steelymcbeam 09:18, 10 February 2009 (EST)
- Me too. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:21, 10 February 2009 (EST)
  - Should we go ahead and put the change or put it to a vote, hopefully we can avoid the Alejandro thing? Horrorman 9:44, 10 February 2009 (EST)
    - I'm fine with it too, so yeah I say just go to a vote or just go ahead and change it. The Light6 09:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)
      - Okay so I guess we will change it, one thing though, how do you do that? Horrorman 9:49, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        I personally don't think "Ability Replication" is suitable, as far as we know it's still speculative. The name suggests he can replicate an ability, but infact he cannot REPLICATE the ability entirely .. meh cba to argue >_> --Arkillion 10:26, 10 February 2009 (EST)
- To Arkillion he does replicate the power mimicing it seems to closely related to Empathic mimicry and other sources suggest replication as well. Horrorman 13:20 10 February 2009(EST)
I have to vote against this name, it does not imply the aspects of this ability that make it unique from Ability Theft, Power Absorption, Aura Absorption, or Empathic Mimicry. Notice how each of those names mentions the uniqueness of the ability. The name should mention the need for physical contact to absorb and/or that only one ability can be held.Jakk55 11:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)
- Not to be picky but to clarify, ability theft is not an ability but a method of gaining powers. Horrorman 13:17, 10 February 2009(EST)
  - I wasn't sure whether I should put that in there but my point is that the name should be a description of ability not a vague name that could be used to describe a multitude of other previously shown(and probably future) abilities.Jakk55 14:16, 10 February 2009 (EST).
    - Temporary Power Replication sounds more specific, or Temporary Power Mimicry--Fr0z3nB0nes 17:46, 10 February 2009 (EST)
      - I was thinking that too but we don't know if he slowly looses it over time or if he doesn't loose it until he touches another person. I would suggest Singular Mimicry, Single Mimicry, Sole Mimicry, Individual Mimicry, Solitary Mimicry, Discrete Mimicry.Jakk55 18:24, 10 February 2009
        He stated he can only hold on to one ability at a time not that he could hold onto it temporarily. I don't see why you would consider a time limit. They wouldn't completely de-power him. Hasn't he been de-powered enough?--Connorbb (CONNOR ROCKS !!!!) 18:46, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        I sorta meant temporary as in he loses it after gaining another ability, but I suppose it only refers to time limits really. Singular Power Mimicry sounds good.--Fr0z3nB0nes 19:07, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        That's what I'm saying, I don't believe he looses the ability over time, therefore the replication would not be temporary, just replaceable. Temporary implies that he eventually looses it, but my guess is if he never touched another evolved human again he wouldn't loose his current ability, making it not-temporary.Jakk55 19:09, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        I wouldn't add quantifiers, Peter's original power only worked within a short distance first, and getting many powers at once made him sick at the end of Homecoming, and we know how both the distance and multiple powers ended up. Putting singular of somelike like that narrows the effects too much. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:12, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        I don't personally like the name Ability replication. It doesn't sound like a power, it's more like a description. The name is not canon, therefore This still should be "Peter's ability" until a consensus has been reached. --Powermimic 22:30, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        
        To Intuitive Empath: Peter has explicitly stated that he can only hold on to one power, this as well as being transferred through touch is what separates it from Emphatic Mimicry, so if you're saying that is too minor a difference to help name then it is too minor a difference to be a different ability. If we are going to say we can't name it because it may evolve into something else then we should switch it back to Peter's Ability rather than leave it with an ambiguous name.Jakk55 23:14, 10 February 2009 (EST)
        I'm just trying to leave things in a way we won't need to move pages and change hundreds of links if his ability ever changes, ability replication as it is neither limits the scope of his ability nor broadens it, putting a quantifier limits it. I'm trying to make our jobs easier for the future, cause someday, Peter will surely be a powerhouse again, the writers like him too much to leave him like this. Ability replication isn't incorrect in either scenerio, adding the quantifier makes it incorrect in one scenario. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:34, 11 February 2009 (EST)
        
        Then change it back to "Peter's ability", no quantifiers or limits in scope, and no vague description. Either it should be left at "Peter's Ability" until we get something more concrete from the show or the writers, or we should give it a real name not something totally non-descriptive.Jakk55 19:18, 11 February 2009 (EST)
        I still think 'Power mimicry' is the best name because it's not limiting if Peter later on can retain more than one ability and it matches 'Power absorption' more, which is also via touch, but steals. So we could have 'Power mimicry' which is similar, via touch, but copies instead of steals. The two are the perfect opposites. --Powermimic 22:06, 11 February 2009 (EST)
Personally, I have no problem with ability replication, but this should have never been changed, as there was clearly not a consensus to do so (2 of the 5 or 6 people discussing it objected). And the consensus check has 5 of 11 objecting to the name. Technically, this should be switched back to Peter's ability based on that. --Stevehim 21:24, 15 February 2009 (EST)
Technically, peter always has access to two abilities at a time. His primary ability (the ability to duplicate a power by touch) and the ability he absorbs, I'm thinking correction. Because no matter what ability he absorbs, it will never overwrite his core ability of tactile power mimicry. - Fourletterfame

De ol' consensus check

Let's start one of these! Sig and arguments if you got 'em below your choice. If you have a better idea, tack that in here with your arguments. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:01, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Leave as "Ability replication"

----Steelymcbeam 02:13, 12 February 2009 (EST) Leave as Ability replication, it's an actual name, can be changed later, describes quite accurately what he is doing, bar a word or two.
----Horrorman 08:57, 12 February 2009 (EST) Being the guy who came up with it and liking the explanation, I have to be bias towards it. Plus replicate implies he can't generate it, like Peter who loses the old ability after he "replicates" a new one.
--Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:15, 12 February 2009 (EST) It's an accurate name, and short of the writers changing his ability again, it'll stay correct even if some efects change, such as retaining abilities or replicating more than one.
--EValentino 13:20, 12 February 2009 (EST)I think it's an accurate description.
-- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 16:37, 12 February 2009 (EST)
-- Futurepeter ( U - T - C ) 08:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)
--SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:24, 21 February 2009 (EST) The name works, it's simple and easy to understand what the ability does.
--Cro Magnon 20:31, 21 February 2009 (EST)
--Piemanmoo 21:58, 21 February 2009 (EST) It's the best we've got so far.
--Meesa yoda 22:38, 22 February 2009 (EST)
--Gabriel Bishop
--Werdoop 12:04, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Change to "Temporary ability replication"

---- Because that is exactly what it is. The other name sounds more permanent. -- Tristan0709 talk 03:15, 12 February 2009 (EST)

Change to "Power mimicry"

--Powermimic 02:10, 12 February 2009 (EST) Change it to a basic "Power Mimicry", which simply describe what he can do - it is like his old ability minus the "empathy" and fits in well with "Power absorption" and it's same way of touch absorption. Also because just because he is only mimicking one at a time doesn't mean his ability isn't 'Power mimicry', we have Knox's power which is powered by fear, yet it's still 'enhanced strength'. This is why we have the limits section. I don't see a reason to give him a completely different name.
--Shadowulf Change to Power Mimicry; duh, he mimics powers, even though only one at a time.
----Connorbb (CONNOR ROCKS !!!!) 16:25, 12 February 2009 (EST) I like it because it is similiar to the name for Atrthur's ability which is ver simiiar to this
--Chubbyboy 13:28, 28 March 2009 (EDT) Perhaps "Ability Mimicry" would be better? The wiki, and the show itself, seem to prefer the word "ability" to "power."

Revert back to "Peter's ability"

--Jakk55Revert to Peter's ability for reason stated above.

Based on current majority

We should keep the name as is. Horrorman 22:08, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Heroes Wiki doesn't work under majority rules. Heroes Wiki looks for consensus. We don't have consensus. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2009 (EST)
So we don't have a consensus to change to any particular name, but we don't have a consensus for the name we're using. 45% want a different name. So shouldn't this be reverted back to "Peter's ability"? --Powermimic 19:28, 21 February 2009 (EST)
- That's the way I understand it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)
  - So, anybody know how to change it back? lol Jakk55 16:50, 22 February 2009 (EST)
    - Well, others have voted for the current name. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:34, 22 February 2009 (EST)
      - Regardless, there has never been, and there still isn't, consensus on the name therefore it should be reverted back to "Peter's ability" as per Help:Naming_conventions#Ability_Names, who would have guessed there are rules for this kind of thing all ready in place? Jakk55 19:37, 22 February 2009 (EST)
      - This should have never been changed in the first place, can someone change it back already? --Powermimic 20:39, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Images

Shouldn't there be some example images under the Ability replication article? We have seen Peter getting abilities a couple of times. So if someone could get a picture of Peter grabbing Nathan in Dual, grabbing him again in Trust and Blood, and using the picture when he get freezing from Tracy like the one here. All of these would pictures would go good for examples I think. --Catalyst 18:02 February 2009

Totally agree. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:47, 14 February 2009 (EST)
- I have added a bunch of images using his new "ability", however due to the lack of photoshop I cannot scale them to the correct size of improve levels. Can someone do that? --Arkillion 21:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)

More Than One At A Time

Peter could only hold an ability if the donor was near by, now he can only hold the most recent one. Similiar? Perhaps Peter needs to expand on his power, learning to recall multiple older, thought to be lost, powers and gain a lees dependent control of them. Over time he will be able to use one's such as Flight, Freezing and others that he may find from others.

i think peter just doesn't have the confidence to use his ability properly, just like hiro did. Now that peter is regaining his confidence, though, he's slowly starting to be able to use his ability like it was before. User:Peter
- Yeah, Peter just needs to explore stuff by himself. I'm sure his ability will progress and he will be able to use multiple abilities at one time.--Alen76 11:26, 16 February 2009 (EST)
  - Yeah, lets hope so, I loved the old Peter and his ability. They were both my favourite character and ability. Now that that's changed I am really hoping he learns to recall abilities otherwise I'm gonna be quite disappointed.--Steelymcbeam 22:49, 17 February 2009 (EST)
    - That will be great, its like an ability upgrade ^^.--JLYK 16:53, 21 February 2009
- Peter's new ability might increase, but I don't think he'll ever get back to the "recall any power he ever absorbed" level. Peter was just too damned powerful, which was why the writers gave him anmesia, and had him depowered by Arthur. I wouldn't mind if he could have a palette of two or three powers to choose from (from the last few people he touched). But Peter should still only be able to use one at a time.--Chubbyboy 13:44, 28 March 2009 (EDT)(EST)
  - - - The logic has never made sense to me, we have the all powerful Sylar who runs around with his super-telekinesis and doesn't get captured, can't be hurt, and now there isn't anyone who has the power to take him on. It makes little sense why they took away peter's powers only to leave sylar the super-villian that he is. --Fourletterfame 22:13, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

Agreed.

Not that Sylar shouldn't be the super-villain. That's how we like him, right?--ERROR 22:33, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Woot!

It was stated in the latest BTE that if Peter reconnects with his empathy, then he will be able to hold multiple abilities. Now that's an improvement.--Steelymcbeam 09:33, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Does this mean he will be able to gain them without touching a sad person? And by that I mean his empathetic mimicry? Or is that unconfirmed? --Three 16:44, 19 February 2009 (EST)
- It means he will be able to hold multiple abilities but he will still need to touch a person to gain an ability. It's better this way. Empathetic mimicry is too clumsy,lol.--Alen (talk) 15:50, 21 February 2009 (EST)
  - I'm not sure the latest BTE says that he will be able to hold multiple abilities. I'm also not sure when they say that he needs to "reconnect with his empathy" that it means he will regain the ability of empathic mimicry. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:50, 21 February 2009 (EST)

They mention that he has been sorely lacking in empathy since Heroes has begun. His ability has changed but if he returns to his empathetic ways than he may well be able to retain several abilities, since his last ability could. And as Mohinder has stated, abilities are caused by a person's blood chemistry, Peter's blood chemistry hasn't changed(or changed very little, still unknown exactly what Power absorption does.) so he may still be able to retain aspects of his former ability.--Steelymcbeam 22:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Look at it this way, the core of Peter's ability hasn't changed--he is still the same, giving him the capacity to take on the powers of other 'specials' to himself, making him imbune with the power that he absorbed/mimicked.
Will Peter ever get his old power back? Isn't it possible that somebody asks one of the guys in the Interviews? :) If he wont get back his powers I would be very disappointed..

Skin Contact

Could someone please give me the specific example of grabbing flight through Nathan's shirt? B/c in Trust and Blood I could've sworn Peter touched Nathan's skin at his neck when he absorbed it then. --SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 23:56, 25 February 2009 (EST) Upon looking at the page again, they changed around that scene a little. Kinda weird, actually. I dunno, but it's not terribly convincing to me...--SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 00:01, 26 February 2009 (EST)

SuperCharged?

I think when Ando super charges Peter, peter will be able to mimic more that one ablity, thus then mimicing supercharge, and he will be able to supercharge himself. This means that it will effectivly become E.M.

Who thinks this, (otherwise i think Ando and Daphne are gona keep going back-in-time to keep getting syringes of the formular, to get hiro his powers back and peter more powers.) Fred1793 17:03, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Main Image

This, perhaps? It's easy to see the replicating going on. My only concern is that maybe too much is going on in this image, like the laser beam on Peter's forehead. I'm fine with the current one, but I believe that this better shows the power in action. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 19:11, 2 March 2009 (EST)

When that rest of you watch Exposed, you will know the image I am talking about, I think we should change it to either Peter absorbing Matt's power or him absorbing Nathan's power. Both examples are very visual and it is easy to see the "aura" flowing into peter's hand.--Connorbb (Connor ROCKS !!!!) 20:22, 2 March 2009 (EST)
- This, then? -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 15:51, 3 March 2009 (EST)
  - I think that ones better. --Powermimic 07:16, 4 March 2009 (EST)

Special Effect

I'm not a 100% sure, but I kinda got the impression that Matt could see the light from when Peter soaked up his power - didn't he comment like "what's that" when Peter replicated his ability? --SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 18:07, 4 March 2009 (EST)

I thought he was just finding it weird that Peter suddenly grabbed his arm, just that. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:12, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- He said "what are you doing?", then "what is that?", so yeah I guess he could see the glow. --Powermimic 21:24, 4 March 2009 (EST)
  - If that was it, Danko would know Nathan's an evolved human, he was there when Peter replicated Nathan's ability after he and Tracy tried to set him up after Flight 195 crashed. And it was dark, the glow would appear more, if it was visible, Danko would've seen it. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 08:53, 5 March 2009 (EST)
    - Just because peter glowed in the dark doesn't mean danko would start accusing nathan of being a hero. Danko has no idea how peters power works so he wouldn't know it's for use on people with powers.

Exactly, Mr. Anonymous. I think he saw the glow.--ERROR 21:50, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Multiple Powers at Once

What do you think about Peter touching two evolved humans simultaneously? Would he replicate two abilities at once?--Altes 12:31, 5 March 2009 (EST)

No idea. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:20, 5 March 2009 (EST)

I think so. But I think he'd lose both once he replicates another ability (Or another pair of abilities.).--ERROR 08:57, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

Rename to "Power borrowing"

With Peter telling Matt that he "Borrowed [his] power" in Exposed, we now have a cannon name/canon descriptive name for the ability, and thus the ability should be now be named power borrowing. Agree/disagree? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:26, 8 March 2009 (EST)

I don't mind either way. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 03:30, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
IMHO borrowing means taking something from somebody, so this somebody doesn't have it until you give it back. --Altes 07:07, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
Well I like Power Borrowing more than Ability Replication, 'Borrowing' usually means "to take", but it can also mean "to use" from another source, so I'm fine with that. And it was said in the show - so is a canon description name, like we have 'Ability Supercharging' because of Matt and Hiro, but it should clearly be called 'Ability Augmentation'. Power borrowing is accurate, Peter "takes" from the source, even though they don't loose their ability. Which is something that Ability Replication doesn't fill, it just sounds like his a mimic. The way he can only hold one ability at a time fits with the "borrowing". So I like Power Borrowing. --Powermimic 07:28, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
I personally don't like it but even so, it's just a descriptive name isn't it? So doesn't it rank the same on the canon scale? IMO it doesn't sound official, you can't really make a name from this.--Steely McBeam - (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
- Yes it's a descriptive name but a canon one, "ability replication" isn't. --Powermimic 07:50, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
- Well considering that, there's no argument that can be made. Let's make the change.--Steely McBeam - (talk) 07:57, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
There were many abilities which were never named in the show, yet you gave them the names. For example, poison emission, intuitive aptitude, underwater breathing, empathic mimicry...--Altes 11:41, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
- Just a point of information - Poison Emission was named in the show - Maya specifically said "I emit poison" Random guy 01:06, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
- I agree with the argument that borrowing means you take something so the person does not have it anymore then you give it back, if you replicate something you copy it and the person still keeps what ever is replicated.--posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 11:44, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Besides replicating means that you take something and copy it, but mimicry means you just do something that you witness. I.e. mimicry doesn't mean you have to take something, but replication does. So I don't think renaming this ability into borrowing is necessary.--Altes 12:07, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
All of that may be true, except for the fact that what Peter said is sadly higher on the canonicity scale and chances are will be changed. Even if the previous name described it near perfectly.--Steely McBeam - (talk) 12:13, 8 March 2009 (EDT)
- I cant argue with that, but I do prose a compromise, why don't we wait until the next episode has been shown, it may give us more information if not I will be happy to agree to the move. It just seems that this has no had a lot of time to be discussed. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 12:16, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Didn't Peter say to Ando in Volume One that he kinda absorbs abilities of others when near them? But Peter's ability was named 'mimicry'. And Arthur - he steals abilities, but his power is called 'absorption'.--Altes 12:48, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

I don't like the borrowing part of the name because of what it was said already, it implies that while the ability is borrowed, its original user can't access it. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:54, 8 March 2009 (EDT)

Well I can't argue with the "borrowed" part, because it would make it imply that the source has lost it. I'd probably call this 'Power absorption', it clear that Peter absorbs when he touches someone, but he doesn't remove the ability. At the moment he is just limited. We don't know how Peter's ability will evolve. --Powermimic 03:00, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
- There's already power absorption, held by Arthur. Borrowing... You know, Peter could have meant by that he would eventually lose Matt's ability, i.e. he took it for a time - borrowed.--Altes 12:03, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
  - If it's not explicitly said, we can't use it as an argument. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:28, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
Wouldn't be my first choice but it is certainly better than what we have now, plus it was sorta mentioned on the show. The name has my vote. ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 17:57, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
- I don't see anything wrong with Ability replication as a name for this power. Power borrowing, to me, is more ambiguous and misleading than ability replication. Ability replication is an exact description of what he does, he replicates abilities. If there wasn't a naming convention, I'd say to leave it as is. But, unfortunately, power borrowing has a root in canon. Meh, go for it. (If we do a consensus check, however, I'm voting to keep it as is) -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 18:17, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
I agree with you Psilaq Remake I do believe it is too ambiguous and borrowing implies that the user of the original ability does not have his power while Peter has it. Matt was clearly able to still use telepathy at the time when Peter replicated the ability. Horrorman 8:48, 10 March 2009 (EST)
- I fail to understand how "Ability Replication" is any less ambiguous than "Power Borrowing". ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 22:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
  - To replicate means to copy. To borrow may lead to think that you actually 'take' it from the person, not just copy, even for limited amount of time. Mateussf 19:23, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
    - I like borrowing, as always, canon is canon --Fourletterfame 22:16, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

New Consensus Check

Let's start a Consensus Check. Add your vote, and signature, and preferably a reason why. ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 22:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Leave as "Ability replication"

--The reasons I stated above, and also it's quite possible Peter's ability will evolve. Then 'borrowing' will not be the proper term.--Altes 04:03, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
--Based upon what Peter says in the episode i don't think it can be stated as the proper name for this abilty. Leave it as it is. -- Futurepeter ( U - T - C) 07:37, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
--Steely McBeam - (talk) 11:12, 11 March 2009 (EDT) It's a better description, fully describes everything that the ability does and isn't left as far open to interpretation as "Power Borrowing".
--Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:37, 11 March 2009 (EDT) For reasons already stated above.
--posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 12:39, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

-- Gabriel Bishop 16:26, 11 March 2009 (EDT) Gabriel Bishop
-- --IronyUTC CH 16:30, 11 March 2009 (EDT), it think it is sort of like the ability supercharging incident, it is who says more explicitly.
---- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 17:00, 11 March 2009 (EDT), For reasons I stated above. Naming conventions won't stand for this, but I want my voice heard.
--- Meteoritu 9:27, 12 March 2009 (EDT), Because besides "Power Borrowing" not being the safest name (since a person can borrow various items at a time), "Ability replication" seems to be the closest term in explaining Peter's power.
--- Horrorman 13:13, 13 March 2009 (EST), Power Borrowing can imply that the person who originally had the power would not have it. Replication means that the person who orginially had it still has it.
--- JLYK 17:25, 14 March 2009 (EST), I feel that Ability Replication sounds more professional. For example, Matt's ability isn't listed as mind reading, but telepathy. Angela's ability is Precognitve Dreaming, not dream of the future. Claire's ability is Cellular Regeneration, not healing. Hiro's old ability is space/time continum and not teleport/time manipulation. Sylar's main ability is Intuitive Aptitude, not "understanding how things work". Power borrowing sounds like a typical phrase you will use in a conversation, but I feel listing this ability as power borrowing just doesn't sound right.
--The Empath 11:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
--Leave it as is. Just because someone described it as borrowing a power, doesn't mean that's the name.
--Power borrowing is just pure fail --Lolwut 15:01, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
--Catalyst · Talk · HL 16:46, 1 April 2009 (EDT) I feel we should stick with replication. Borrowing means to take something which leads to the other person doesn't have it anymore. Borrowing also implies it will eventually go away, which it won't if he doesn't replicate another power. And don't anybody tell me, "But that's what Peter said it was." I don't care. Micah never refers to his ability as technopathy, or Echo calling it Sound manipulation. it's not like when they get an ability, they automatically know what the ability is called. like Hiro when he called Ando a supercharger. Does he know what his ability is called? no, so don't go by what each character says. I'll be fine if they get the name from the writers, or the assignment trackers.
--Regardless of what "canon" says, it's more confusing to call it "borrowing" than "Ability Replication". Although I'm personally more for "tacitile ability mimicry" or some such.--Uncanny474 11:53, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
IceGhost78
ERROR All of the reasons above.

Change to "Power Borrowing"

--Semi-Canon much better descriptor and less ambiguous and "Ability Replication" ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 22:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
--It was described as this on the show and isn't made up by us. Another meaning of "borrow" is "copy or imitate; to borrow the style, manner, or opinions of another." So it can be correct, but some may think that the one will lose their ability while it's "borrowed"... --Powermimic 23:09, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
Change for reasons I stated above --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:19, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
Liked ability replication better but for the sake of being canon, this one fits better. Darn technicalities. Dracomaster4 01:27, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
Although borrowing sounds like the original person loses his/her power, Peter described his ability as "borrowing". Perrin Crocker's ability is called Bone spike protrusion because it was described as "bone spikes". Although I think people new to Heroeswiki will have a problem with this name, it's the proper name so we need to use it. --Peter 19:07, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

Future Peter with this Ability...? More than one ability at a time...?

The Exposed future Peter might have had this ability, now that I look through the old episodes.

Future Peter would've absorbed healing from Claire if he still had E.M. Claire didn't shoot him in the head, it was two bullets in the chest. Even if the Haitian was there, he'd have to STAY there to keep Peter from regenerating. When Peter could teleport and use TK on Nathan in the hospital, Future Peter would've regenerated. Claire regenerated after a number of hours after being dead in the first season, so why didn't Peter?

Because Future Peter had this ability. Which means that he'll eventually gain more than one ability. Future Peter had body insertion and time travel, at least.

It's gonna be like Peter's training with Claude. Right now he HAS super strength, flight, freezing, and telepathy, he just doesn't know how to work it out yet.

Happy times.

LimaBean 16:49, 12 March 2009 (PDT)

Okay mate, two things to say. 1. I pray to every deity that exists that he develops multiple abilities and your theory as to how he does so and if he did so is the best I've heard yet.

2. Sadly Future Peter had no idea that his father was alive and that he was the person who gave everyone the formula. Peter would never have worked this out, had he not mimicked IA, gone on a power-bender, and taken off to destroy Pinehearst and finding his father in the process. Besides the writers have stated that Peter couldn't absorb anything from Future Peter because all he could absorb was EM.--Steely McBeam - (talk) 19:56, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Well, I've been shot down there. >.>

Still doesn't explain how future Peter died, though. He should've woken up right when the Haitian left. ;~;

LimaBean 17:04, 12 March 2009 (PDT) He should have, but there's the show for you. It's no fun if Future Peter just wakes back up and then (A) gets killed by Present Peter because of his new found talent, or (B) goes back with him and solves the problem perfectly therefore ending the show. Believe me it worked out a lot better this way. Besides, no one likes scarface. --Steely McBeam - (talk) 20:06, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

I have a plausible theory on why Peter can die having absorbed RCR. Unlike Claire, it's not his original ability, he needs to access his own ability to use hers, so I think that after being dead for a while, if only because the Haitian is blocking him, after a while the natural processes that happen once you die make it impossible for him to use this ability, Mohinder said he changes his DNA to use an ability, thing is, is the change permanent or does it happen every time he uses an ability? I think it happens every time. All it takes is for him not to access his ability, not change his DNA. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:16, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

So he has to remember Claire every time he gets hurt to heal? And his DNA rapid-switches when he flips through TK to STM to invisibility? And how could he use to abilities at the same time? Not trying to be rude, but it just doesn't seem too plausible. LimaBean 17:04, 12 March 2009 (PDT)

Not remember, when he lost his memory he could still use abilities, more like a reflex, things in the human body happen pretty fast you know? Nerve impulses, for example, run around 120 meters per second, enzymes in your body are able to make reactions happen up to a thousand times faster, who's to say his ability doesn't involved a DNA changing enzyme? Also, DNA is translated into proteins all the time, so it's not that impossible. It's part of his ability. Intuitive Empath - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath Talk]] - Contributions 20:25, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

Empath, you're awesome :D Dracomaster4 03:41, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm just very good at biology. And I'm kind of a nerd when it comes to the actual functioning of abilities, so it comes easy. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:48, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

Also, Peter came back to life when Claire removed the shard of glass from his head. With brain penetrated, he wasn't able to think about Claire in order to access her ability, but he did return from the dead. Still, it doesn't explain Future Peter's death. --Altes 10:30, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

But he only needs to think of someone when he wants to access the ability, Claire was right there, when she removed the glass, his ability could work again, so it's like he mimicked her power again. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:56, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

Funny Observation

Pete must really love replicating flight. Before it was TK, now it's the power of taking into the air and flying. Still it's cool that he has that power currently. Or else his mother would have been in trouble. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 03:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Flight is a very useful power. I can certainly understand why Peter would try to stick with it.--Cro Magnon 07:14, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
- Quite true, but like he could recall those replicated abilities, he won't be able to fly without the help of Nathan. It has it's perks like not flying by plane, taking a train, or any other modes of transportation. :D --TrueBlueBrooklynite 19:43, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
As a fugitive, Peter needs to escape quickly and travel around as fast as he can. So Flight is an important power for Peter at the moment. --Powermimic 21:18, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
I'd take Time-Stopping over flight, though. If Peter ever comes in contact with Hiro, I say he gets that. LimaBean 21:13, 7 April 2009 [PDT]
- Pete along with Sylar would seem to have fine control over their abilities, I think Peter handling the solo aspect of just time manipulation would be interesting. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 14:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Totally Unnecessary

Im sorry but this has been bugging me since the season started. I don't wanna be that guy but I have gotta say something. Despite the story telling just being off this season, my biggest problem is this ability. First they go through all the trouble of researching the Empathic Mimicry ability and giving it to peter and having him go through a whole character development just to understand it and how it works and who he is during season 1. Then they just take it away because they decided to depower him. So its like why give him the power at all if you knew how powerful he would be eventually. I think it says alot about the writers where they can't find something for him to do in the storyline when there are thousands of comics based on superman, the xmen and others who are very powerful and they have been going strong for years. Its a total cop out cause they lack creativity, i mean he went from the most powerful on the show to the least powerful person. Yet Sylar the serial killer is given more abilities he shouldn't have (not to mention he's still living) and the one person who can stand against him is practically powerless. This ability is sad at best he can only get a power by touching the person ok, but on top of that he can only have one at a time and when he does he loses the power he previously had. And the only response the producers give is he still learning how to use the power like in the first season. What for he can't do anything, i mean i just stated what he can do, other that there is nothing to work out. Why give him a power after it was taken if this was what you do its like totally unnecessary. Now he is flight which only good for travel but is useless to fight against armed soldiers. On a side note Escaping is really brave, especially considering if he still had his abilities this storyline wouldn't be happening. It seems like the show is on its way out anyhow, i mean you really cant go much of anywhere story-wise when the government knows and their solution is to put you down like a dog. The creators say they're trying to get back to the roots of the first season, but if that means having everyday people with abilities look over their shoulder for someone bagging and tagging them without due process, looks like they dropped the ball again. Ok im sorry for the rant i was holding that in for a bit.Salubri 10:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

I agree. Peter's old power represented his personality, his desire to save the world and become a better person. He was the guy who wanted to relate to everyone. Everyone's power is somehow linked to their personality. Matt wanted to know what the "bad guys were thinking". Hiro wanted to "teleport" out of his boring life. Daphne wanted to run. Peter wanted to empathize with everyone. And they just took it away because he was too powerful. They should've just weakened his ability, not take it away entirely. LimaBean 15:33, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

My Speculation

When Peter first had E.M., he trained with Claude. Claude said, and I quote, "Your body remembers how to use all those powers, it's you who doesn't know how to reach them." Peter used Telepathy. Peter flew. Peter froze the plane. I believe there's no logical way to stop Peter from having more than one ability at a time eventually. LimaBean 15:36, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

Personally I think Peter's lack of self-confidence is just getting in the way of him using his old ability (i.e. using other abilities) Hopefully sometime soon he'll meet Sylar and grow a pair. --Peter 15:40, 16 April 2009 (EDT)

I think he has his original ability, but he can't use it properly because he lost his empathy. He doesn't connect with people, so he can only have one ability at a time, and he has to touch people in order to get their abilities--ERROR 09:01, 1 June 2009 (EDT).

- Peter could use abilities he didn't know he had back then, no way you can empathize with someone you don't even knox exists. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:21, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

NAME

Is the name being changed or not? It's been nominated for a while and nobody has talked about it. --BoomerDay 15:59, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

No, it has been going on too long and since no new information has arisen and no consensus has been met I believe that means no renaming. I will take down the rename tag. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 16:11, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

Possible rewording of definition

Isn't it speculative to say "he is only able to have one ability at a time?" While it is true that he loses his previous ability when gaining new ones, that is slightly different than only being able to have a single ability at once. For instance, what if he touches Sylar? I don't think we have enough evidence (from the show, anyway...I'm not caught up on GNs and interviews) to say that he wouldn't gain all of Sylar's abilities. I think it should be changed to say:

"However, he loses his previous ability(ies) after replicating another one."

 --Stevehim 18:37, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

No, I think it would be better to say that he can have ability(ies) only from one source at a time. If Peter did take all of Sylar's powers, it would be true. -- Altes 02:48, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Peter took all of Sylar's Abilities

If you look at Peter after the fight, he's bleeding from cuts that don't exist. He's already healing. Therefore, he took ALL of Sylar's powers.

I think Peter'll become the 'new' Sylar, with Intuitive Aptitude and all. o.o LimaBean 19:09, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

Nope, he only mimicked shapeshifting. --Action Figure 22:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- That's debatable.
  - No, it's not. Peter said, after shapeshifting, "I bet you didn't think I'd take that one" to Sylar, indicating Sylar would believe Peter (in a an attempt to regain his power to have multiple powers) to take intuitive aptitude instead. Peter took shapeshifting only. --Ricard Desi (t,c) 11:09, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
    - I heard, "betcha didn't think I took that one from you." This, though, could be interpreted either way. --SpellingBee^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
      - "I bet you didn't think I'd take that one from you" could mean that Sylar thought Peter can replicate only one ability, but Pete managed to take them all. --JLYK 13:35, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
        I don't know if I missed anything but did Sylar know that Peter had a power again since the last time they were together was when they killed Arthur and Peter hadn't taken the formula then. Is it just assumed that Sylar knew about it from his interactions with other characters and their memories? --Colin--
        That Peter had an ability I'm sure he knew, since he saw Peter flying when he and Nathan fought him, now if he knew it was touch based instead of the original "stand next to you and copy", I don't think he did, but he could suspect since Peter probably tried to get a good grip on him, otherwise he'd think Peter would just mimic electric manipulation or telekinesis to attack him and wouldn't mind being hit because of rapid cell regeneration. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:53, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
well future sylar figured out what knox's ability was after seeing it for a few seconds. Then when sylar was fighting peter, peter would have grabbed sylar and made a noticeable glow as he took his ability. Sylar would have seen this and understood what peter did.

Arguments for

Excess blood left out of wounds in people with rapid cellular regeneration when they heal needs to be washed off.
- Not always... I recall sometimes no blood remained on Claire's wounds when they healed. -- Altes 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - That only happened rarely, and when the blood spread was super small. In fact, the only occasion I can remember for that was the staple from Season 1... --SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Intuitive aptitude's effects include modifying the DNA of the user. There is no evidence to suggest that abilities are somehow 'segmented' or separate, or one continuous string of information in the section of genetic material in which abilities inhabit.
- The second statement contradicts the first one. Modification of DNA suggests that new segments are inserted into it. -- Altes 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - What I meant was, there is no proof that acquired abilities are separate from the original one, in Sylar's case intuitive aptitude. It could be one huge string of ability DNA, thus being read as one ability by Peter.
    - But we know it isnt because Sylar lost all of his IA gained abilities after the Shanti Virus. If they were all connected, he would have lost IA, too. --Action Figure 13:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
      - So? Sylar did lose IA, AND telekenisis from the Shanti virus. Several other people did as well, including Molly Walker and The Haitian, both of whom regained their power. -Barbedknives (talk)14:18, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
        IA and TK were the only abilities Sylar did NOT lose to the Shanti virus, while he was infected, they were merely supressed. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:54, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
It is not known how Peter's power interprets abilities, if/how he selects any in the target, and what happens when replicating a multi-powered user. Before Sylar, each evolved human he replicated only had on ability.
- This is not an argument for. It is simply a gray area. --Action Figure 13:44, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Nathan told the security agent that if they could get Peter to Sylar, he could 'do what Sylar can do.'
- Perhaps he meant only shape shifting... Anyway, Nathan couldn't know what would happen. -- Altes 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Why didn't Sylar just kill Peter during the fight when he just had flight and was vulnerable, like he did Nathan? Sylar wasn't aware that Peter could only use one ability, so he would have still been seen as a huge threat.
- Or maybe he was aware. He understands how things work, including abilities. -- Altes 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
I agree that Peter did in fact replicate all of Sylars abilties. Because his DNA would of replicated Sylars DNA. And in season 1, when Sylar was locked up Noah said that Sylar had used his Inutive Aptitude to manipulate his DNA into using that persons power. Now since Peter's power replicates the DNA with his power then he would of been able to replicate Sylars DNA and since Sylars DNA involves several powers then most likely Peter can "do what sylar does."
Now you can say he didnt replicate Matt's precognition, but then again the precog ability was not on Matt's DNA, and if it even was, then maybe Peter just didn't tap into it because the entire time he was running away and using telepathy and wasn't relaxed like people who use precog powers.
- Agreed, Peter had no time to try and paint the future. But precognition may be an extension of Matt's telepathy - so, it may be one ability. Had Peter a chance to paint a picture, it could have foretold the future. -- Altes 09:43, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Now like the guy who disagreed said, Peter was shown only using one power of Sylar's... so, maybe he wanted to use the easiest way of capturing Sylar, other than risk fighting and getting killed maybe he just said "No... Im gonna do something smart.. for once."
- The easiest way was to quickly find the President, acquire his morph, hide him somewhere, and get into a car with Sylar? Peter could have taken his disintegration ability and ended it all in a snap. He could have used sound manipulation, and blown Sylar's skin off, exposing his brain long enough to destroy completely. He could have telekinetically decapitated Sylar. --Action Figure 13:49, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - Interesting to note here: if Peter did take Intuitive Aptitude, he would be able to see all the variables to make this situation work. The plan did seem a little far fetched for Peter working mostly alone.--NovaX81 19:57, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
    - It was implied that Noah may have helped with this plan. --Action Figure 05:16, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
If Sylar actually secretly developed empathic mimicry during his time with Elle, and used it on James Martin, AND Peter took that one ability, he would then have access to ALL of Sylar's abilities, ONCE AND FOR ALL! Mua ha ha I win n00bs GG. -Barbedknives (talk)23:32, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
- - - - My question is: Why did Sylar lose control of his shapeshifting BEFORE he got injected with the sedative. It almost gave off the impression that his power was being drained out of him, even though we know that's impossible. The other possible reason is he was trying to access the presidents DNA sample, and ended up cycling through his stockpile to no avail. Thoughts?--Fourletterfame 15:13, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

- - - - It happened because at the moment Peter was a shapeshifter too, and he was shapeshifted as well. So it's kinda when Sylar tried to take a sample of his shapeshifted DNA, that stuff happened. -- Altes 15:26, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

I guess your right we shouldnt jump the gun just yet. But I am a huge Peter fan and I thnk his character has lost several great qualities and its one of the reasons why the show lost alot of viewers IMO. But I have to say to the person who said Peter would los IA after abosorbing another ability. I dont agree, because Inutive Aptitude gives the puse pure mastery of the other powers. So Peter would fully master Ability Replication and leanr how to hold on to more than one ability now which I dont doubt because in my opinion Future Peter had Ability Replication because he only showed 5 powers. [ADAMJONES]

Arguments against

Peter has only been shown to use one ability at a time since getting his new ability, and after the confrontation with Sylar.
Peter has stated that he can only 'hold onto one at a time.'
- That was so long ago. Even Peter doesn't know the full extent of his ability. -- Altes 09:36, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - You assume. --Action Figure 13:50, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Claire asked Peter if he could fly, and he said no. (Note:It is being debated whether Sylar was using regular flight or telekenisis to land back into the building's window, and whether he even has flight at all.)
- Peter couldn't fly, because he lost Nathan's ability in order to take Sylar's. -- Altes 09:36, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - Sylar flew. Peter saw it. No matter how he did it, Peter knew Sylar COULD. --Action Figure 13:50, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - Peter was still in the room, so most likely Peter took all of Sylar's abilities BEFORE Sylar took Nathan's flight.Dracomaster4 10:12, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
    - I agree. Peter'd already left the room right when Sylar throws Nathan in the window, then flies in and kills Nathan. No way Pete saw it. --SpellingBee^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
      - It was never confirmed Sylar took Nathan's ability, and most likely, he didn't. --Action Figure 05:21, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
  - They refer during the whole episode to "his power" "that one", so obviously he took one power. Peter was limping, bloody, even at the end he still was hurt. Moreover, Nathan flew Sylar out because he saw Peter couldn't do anything and was about to get killed.
    - Someone uploaded images that show the cuts on Peter's face while the burn James Martin as Sylar. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:54, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
      - His limp was definitely better when he was going down the staircase shortly thereafter. --SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 21:24, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Peter did not have "the Hunger".

Just note that this isn't a consensus check or anything, just here for academic reasons. I personally believe that he only has shape shifting, but we shouldn't assert that he only has it for fact. The articles mentioning it should say something along the lines of "Peter has only demonstrated shape-shifting after his battle with Sylar" so as to be accurate but not rule out other options.

We're going to have to wait till next season guys, it's inconclusive but practical for now to say he's a shape shifter.

(On a side note, if he is holding onto IA with his replication, he's going to have to use it to gain more powers, since replicating any other ability will remove IA and any of Sylar's old abilities. Also, he would most likely have to battle the hunger if he chose to keep it. Could be interesting. ) -Barbedknives (talk)22:40, 29 April 2009 (EDT)

- I agree that we should leave it open ended, qualifying what we include with, for instance, "has only demonstrated" as suggested. Other opinions? --SpellingBee^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 23:14, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
  - I disagree. It was painted out for us very clearly that he only took one ability.
    - I definitely thought I saw more than one: he was limping but quickly straightened up, an indicator of regeneration, in addition to the shape-shifting we know was absorbed. As such, I think an open-ended statement is best. Thoughts? --SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 18:37, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
he had noticeable cuts near the end at the bonfire though.

Selection or Request?

OK, so we know Peter can replicate a specific ability. The question is, does he:

A. Touch an evolved human, identify their ability(s), and select which one he will :replicate, or if he replicates it; or

B. Have an ability in mind that he knows the target has, and forcibly replicate it?

If A, then whenever Peter touches Sylar/Nathan, he will see that he has multiple abilities that Nathan did not posses, and most notable that Sylar had all of those abilities.

What do you all think? -Barbedknives (talk)03:37, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

I think it was B. --Powermimic 05:28, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Then how did he replicate Tracy's ability he didn't even do it on purpose? It would have to be similar to A.--Connorbb (Connor ROCKS !!!!) 07:34, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

- Peter still didn't have the hang of his ability, he just got Tracy's power without meaning to, in BTEs after that episode, they said that Peter was getting better because he could choose whether or not pick up a power when touching someone who has one. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:49, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

I think that when he uses his ability, he doesn't necessarily know what their ability is, and gets that ability, and doesn't necessarily know that he has that ability, unlike his father. And if he comes across somebody with multiple abilities, then I think he still doesn't necessarily know what their abilities are, and he gets a random one. Although, what he said to Sylar in the President's car suggests that he chose to get shape shifting.--ERROR 09:40, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

He only has shape shifting.

There's a reason for Peter to have only one power when he touches evolved hmans. Only one. Even though Sylar has many of them, why should he be an exception? -- Altes 06:15, 30 May 2009 (EDT)

I don't entirely understand what you're saying, are you asking why should Peter be an exception? For that matter, why should Sylar? In some ways I think Peter needs more powers so he can balance Sylar. It is possible that he has multiple abilities b/c of Sylar, and as soon as he touches someone else they'll all go away. It's also possible that he just has shape shifting. I would also like to note that there is some evidence he picked up regeneration, with how his limp goes away quickly, but it's not conclusive. That's why I suggest we leave the statement open to the possibility of multiple pending further information. Thoughts? --SpellingBee ^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 18:49, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

Ability Developement

I think that when Peter gets better control over his ability, its going to evolve into Arthur's Power Absorption,and when it does, are we going to move this page to power absorption, or just leave it Ability Replication. Daevon 15:02, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

It's not even certain Peter's ability will ever evolve. -- Altes 15:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
We all know heroes, 9 times out of 10 most abilities evolve. Daevon 17:04, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
- As for me, if Peter's power evolves, it will allow him not to lose replicated abilities. It would be just like empathic mimicry, only tactile. Tactile mimicry, yeah. -- Altes 02:47, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
  - But, turning his ability into power absorption would limit Peter's abilities, which the writers are trying to do, and plus if he finds out who "Nathan" really is, he can take all his abilities, except for flight, making him really Nathan, without all the dangers of Sylar and his "hunger". Plus,I like that Tactile Mimicry name. Really creative. Daevon 20:31, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
    - Only to have Peter go Sylar on everyone else? We know he's not capable of handling the hunger. And tactile mimicry isn't that good a name, the current name would still fit if he retained abilities through touch. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:45, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
      - That was only when he had empathic mimicry, he's shown extreme control over the abilities he's replicated. Now, he would probably be able to control it. Daevon 20:57, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
        Flight, enhanced strength, and telepathy are all abilities he already gained this control over with empathic mimicry. He certainly wasn't good at controlling Tracy's ability. The only one left is shape shifting, and we never saw how he would handle shape shifting with empathic mimiciry. - Josh (talk/contribs) 14:46, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
      - Peter would probably need to activate intuitive aptitude again in order to feel the hunger. - Josh (talk/contribs) 14:46, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
We have a "semi-canon" source for that ability being named "power absorption", so that's what we would call it. - Josh (talk/contribs) 14:46, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

And you never know. Perhaps Peter will steal all of Sylar's abilities. And perhaps when he does that, at that point, he can steal all of the abilities of somebody, but loses them when he uses his ability on somebody else.

Here's how I think his ability will grow (If his new ability isn't his old one...). First, he can copy any and all of the abilities of anybody he touches, but he still loses them all if he copies somebody else's ability. Then, he learns to steal abilities instead of copy them, but other than that, it's the same, i.e. he loses his old abilities if he gains new ones. This is when he'd steal Sylar's abilities, and then he'd copy/steal another ability, therefore losing Sylar's abilities. THEN he'd learn to retain copied/stolen abilities, but he will never learn how to retain abilities he lost before that point, as they are no longer there to retain. Then maybe, he can learn to transfer his absorbed abilities to other people, i.e. the opposite of ability extraction. Thoughts?--ERROR 23:44, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

I would hate if they did that with Peter, they should just give him his dads ability so he can take all of "Nathan"s. Theyd still be limiting his abilities, like they want to, but at least hed have some power. Daevon 23:56, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
Why would Peter's new ability become power absorption? Peter doesn't steal abilities even now - I mean, if his power had a potential to evolve into that, he would already be able to remove powers from others, but he would lose them each time he steals someone else's power. It's just too different from that. Arthur steals abilities, Peter simply copies them. There's no reason for him to become like his father. -- Altes 04:55, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
- What's an evolution of copying? Stealing. Plus, his and arthur's abilities arent that different, The effects are even similar. Daevon 23:59, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
  - Explain it. Why should copying evolve into stealing? -- Altes 03:25, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
    - Because it makes the most sense. Why should copying evolve into more copying? That makes no sense. Daevon 12:45, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
      - Dunno. For example, Sylar's intuitive aptitude didn't evolve into power absorption. Instead, he learnt how to absorb powers through empathy. As for Peter, he had a perfect absorbing ability - EM - but his currnet method of absorbing is lame. Sure it has to become better! -- Altes 14:15, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
        I've been less-than-pleased with Peter's new ability but recently i thought about it. The writer's got as far as they could with Peter's old EM so they gave him a new ability. One that was similar to EM but clearly different. EM makes everything with Peter too easy (ex: "Oh, there's a fire that'll kill everyone? Don't worry i absorbed water mimicry last week..") This new ability is better story-wise and probably won't develop... Much to my chagrin --Peter 20:20, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Claire saw how Peter used his ability on Sylar

Check this out. -- Altes 04:45, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

umm.. what does this picture mean? That possibly Claire will explain the ability? --Peter 20:23, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
- It's an example of Peter's ability. AltesUTC CH
  - Im sorry, maybe it's my browser that's messing this up, but how is a pic of Claire looking through a door an example of peters ability? Unless she was looking at Peter using it but I don't think this picture properly show that.. --Peter 23:39, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
    - Remember when Peter and Nathan fought Sylar, the door was shut, and Claire saw many blue flashes and one orange. The last one might have been Peter's ability. AltesUTC CH

Did Claire say she saw an orange spark or was there a nano second in the screen. 50000JH

Is it possible that when Sylar attack him with electrical manipulation that the ability copied it. 50000JH

If Sylar obtains this power...

... and uses it to obtain another, what will happen? Will he lose all of abilities he already has? AltesUTC CH

- I don't think so because that ability will probably work independently of his other abilities, for example, if he got ability replication and he replicated telepathy, and then after that he replicated another power, he would lose telepathy. Get it? -- Daevon 14:44, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
  - Don't forget to add the signature, your idea makes sense, but it still sounds complicated. I hope Sylar will never have AR, my brain is melting. AltesUTC CH
    - It's a pretty simple concept, if you can't understand it, you have some problems. Gamerelite1 22:19, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

No Glowing when Acquiring Super Speed

I noticed that when Peter acquired Super Speed from Edgar, there was no glowing involved. Should we change the description to reflect this? I am bringing this up because the claim that Peter always had a hand glowing effect when using his power was used to discredit a theory that Peter took a different ability from Sylar (who was shape shifted into the imaage of the president) after shaking his hand and reverting to his original form to the suprise of Sylar. (That theory is largely irrelevant now, but I thought I'd just bring up this discrepency.) 20:52, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

Maybe we missed it in the middle of the fight? I do think there was a sound. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:59, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
- I watched those few seconds, like, 5 times, and still missed any of the usual light effect. Also, I vaguely think there's a loud crash right around that time, so I can't say I've definitely heard the sound effect. --SpellingBee^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 18:00, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
  - I watched it and I didn't see the glowing (I looked) or hear the sound effects, but I think the producers may have just cut it out as they didn't feel the need for such dramatic effects anymore.--WarGrowlmon18 03:18, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

2 powers?

Is it just me or did anybody else notice that after he got into the little fight with edgar, in which he touched him and somehow aquired his ability, he threw him half way across the room, in the air, and then told noah he had his ability. Now, does peter have both abilities at once or is this just a mistake. 21:09, 22 September 2009 (EDT)User:Daevon

No way to tell, the fight was choreographed very quickly and we only see limited camera angles. Also, effects of super speed could mimic super strength; for example throwing an object or running into someone extremely fast would of course increase the force of the impact. Same thing with super strength. -Barbedknives (talk)21:13, 22 September 2009 (EDT)
- True but did u see how high and far he through him, daphne couldnt do that. 21:17, 22 September 2009 (EDT) User:Daevon
  - Small note: Daphne's female. However, I'm not sure even a guy could've managed it w/o a boost to his strength. --SpellingBee^{~Talk to me!~}_~Contribs~ 18:00, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
    - Daphne also carried two fully grown males long distances with her power. I can't remember the exact episodes but I know she did it. Super speed has a side effect of increasing agility and temporary strength in some cases. This kind of strength can only be maintained with momentum, and has an upward limit on lifting weights. Peter had plenty of room to lunge quickly and forcefully at Edgar, possibly throwing him a few yards. He either had super speed, super strength, or both. However I don't feel that the scene gave us enough details and information to say for sure. -Barbedknives (talk) 14:13, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
    - I think he just had one power, but Peter could have been using his own strength. I mean he clearly had increased fighting abilities (maybe he took some classes) and people can knock other people around without enhanced strength. I was impressed with his new skills and thought nothing of it.--WarGrowlmon18 03:21, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
      - I'm pretty sure he doesn't have both abilities. The writers would make a bigger deal of it if his ability had evolved. I think he had super strength, tossed Edgar across the room, and took his ability as he threw him. Therefore he now had super speed, as he said to Noah.Swm 13:22, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
        I think he replicated it when he touched his arm. They did a close-up of that like they always do when Peter replicates a power (well except when Peter replicated from Sylar and that pissed me off) so I think that was when he did it.--WarGrowlmon18 14:48, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

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 ** I don't think so because that ability will probably work independently of his other abilities, for example, if he got ability replication and he replicated telepathy, and then after that he replicated another power, he would lose telepathy. Get it? -- [[User:Daevon|Daevon]] 14:44, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
 *** Don't forget to add the signature, your idea makes sense, but it still sounds complicated. I hope Sylar will never have AR, my brain is melting. {{User:Altes/Signature}}
+****It's a pretty simple concept, if you can't understand it, you have some problems. [[User:Gamerelite1|Gamerelite1]] 22:19, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
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