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Thanks!

Hi, thanks for fixing the missing categories in the flight images that I uploaded. Looks like the one I was missing was Category:Powers Images, I'll be sure to add that to any powers images I upload again. --Radicell 22:24, 28 February 2009 (EST)

• Oh, no worries. You got the more important ones. As always, you're doing a great job! Your edits are very easy to patrol. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 01:03, 1 March 2009 (EST)
  • Thanks Gabriel Bishop 13:26, 3 March 2009
    • For what? -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 20:07, 3 March 2009 (EST)

A Spoiler-ish matter

NOTE: I have refrained from using spoilers in this message.

Hi! I'm pretty much new here but have been a follower of the site for some time. I've seen on several occasions now that the ad at the top of the page for Sprint, which is giving away a spoiler for 3x18. I myself like the odd spoiler here and there, but seeing as it's on every page (even those not with the Spoiler: prefix) I thought that kind of contradicts the spoiler policy. In the interest of those not wanting to be spoiler-ed I wondered if there's anything that could be done. I'd hate to see the site get avoided for fear of giving away spoilers! Thanks, SylarMonroe 14:23, 1 March 2009 (EST)

• Thanks for the heads up. I've seen it too, but I didn't think it was anything too big to worry about. In the end, there's not much we can do change the ads--part of our deal with NBC is that an ad banner play at the top of every page. I'm pretty sure Admin watches my talk page. If he deems it too spoilery, he'll contact NBC and have them change it. Thanks so much, SylarMonroe! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 14:26, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Blue

Images make everything happy. But ok, I'll make it more seriously. Mateussf 16:32, 1 March 2009 (EST)

• I don't see a need for a few arbitrary images on a disambig page that have blue in the images. Let's move this discussion to a public forum. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 17:06, 1 March 2009 (EST)

So...theories

I come to you with a proposition, Ryan. Let's rewind a few years ago. Lost is about to air its season three finale. A fan comes into Lostpedia and posts a synopsis for the episode in the spoiler section. Spoilers get completely eradicated from Lostpedia. Back to the here and now, the theories on Heroes Wiki get stupider by the minute. Every time someone dies on the show, there's a "____ isn't dead" theory. Things like waffles, Mr. Muggles, Barbara, Harry Fletcher, etc. are unacceptable and must be put to an end...now. I don't even recall seeing a solid or plausible theory on this site. My proposition: to put an end to this dumb-founded dipshittery we see every day on the theory pages, the theories have to go. They're just a catalyst for silliness and sometimes vandalism, things that are not to be tolerated on this wiki any longer. Think about it.--Citizen 20:47, 1 March 2009 (EST)

• Fair warning: This is a long post. Like War and Peace long. Skip to the last paragraph if you don't want my to read my rambling stream of consciousness. :)

  One thing I never want to do is to go the route Lostpedia took and completely eliminate spoilers and theories from the entire site, just in an effort to curb such content. I quote from Lostpedia's front page (their front page!): "Spoilers are no longer permitted on the wiki. Any spoilers on the wiki regarding Seasons 5 and 6 will result in an instant and permanent ban." Wow. That would scare the bejeezus out of me as a newcomer so much that I wouldn't create an account. As a casual editor over there, I'm scared that I might accidentally post something that doesn't belong, and then get banned permanently with no individualized warning. And I'm saying that as a fairly intelligent man in my 30s. Then I think of all the younger people (and I mean teenagers and such) who might miss that warning, or might not understand, or might forget, or whatever, and boom you have people being banned left and right (more than 20 this week!). That's very much not the kind of community we're trying to build here.

  Now I know very well how stupid some (okay, most) of the theories are here and how people try to sneak spoilers in on nonspoiler pages. Part of the payment for building a community is that we expect everybody to be on different learning curves, and we spend a lot of time giving individualized instruction to spare those who might actually be trying their best. Maybe Admin has reasons of his own, but mine go right back to my teaching. There's no way I'll ever be able to teach one lesson to my class and expect every single person there to "get" it. I have to try a multitude of ways and try to reach a multitude of individuals, and it takes a buttload of effort on my part. But that's the way it's done. Teachers who try to "teach to the middle" or who expect everyone to fall in line perfectly have the lowest success rates.

  So enough mumbo jumbo about teaching. Here at the wiki, we have a lot of stupidity that creeps into pages that don't get patrolled as often as others--namely the theory pages. (Spoiler pages, too, but mostly the theory sections of those pages.) It's rare that you'll see me visit those pages. In fact, I visited one today, and I think there was only one theory there, and it wasn't a bad one. But it was riddled with grammar mistakes, so I started editing. I could have gone on much longer and taken my editing to other theory pages, but I just couldn't bring myself to do that. Ugh. I generally stay away from those pages.

  Yes, all pages at Heroes Wiki are supposed to be professional in nature. But some have gone so far to the other side that trying to bring them back to a level of professionalism seems like an insurmountable task. I know. My suggestion is either 1, stay away from those pages, or 2, work with one individual at a time to bring up the level of professionalism.

  Now all that jazz having been said, there are a bunch of yahoos and idiots who will still be jerks and put stupid stuff on some pages. I've seen about a million theories about the drug dealer and Harry Fletcher. I don't have the energy--or desire--to go through the history and find out who did it, and then to give the person a proper warning. So it continues. (If anybody knows who the db is, please give them a kind but firm warning--and if they give you trouble, let me know.)

  I know this is a superlong rant, but my point is to kind of give you the place where I'm coming from. I don't think getting rid of the theory pages altogether is a good idea, as it's a hook for a lot of people (myself included) to join the site. And just because there are a few jerks who hog the pages with inane theories doesn't mean we should cut off our nose to spite our face, so to speak. The theory pages themselves aren't innately stupid. It's the content that can be, and so it's the content that needs to be removed or modified. This should probably be discussed at the community portal, but maybe we need stricter guidelines for the theory pages (see Help:Theories). Maybe we need to dedicate one or two patrollers to just working on the theory pages. Maybe somebody has another idea... -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 21:11, 1 March 2009 (EST)

  • Just for the record, Steelymcbeam has added quite a few drug dealer/HF theories. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- Psilaq Remake 21:40, 1 March 2009 (EST)
    • Thanks. Where were the silly theories added? And has anybody ever said anything directly to Steelymcbeam about it besides this warning about a spoiler page? -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 21:51, 1 March 2009 (EST)
      • Wow honestly didn't realise there was such a problem. As of now I'm done with any "silly" theories and whatnot, and to try and make it up to everyone am going to go and clean up the Drug dealer's theory page and check any of the spoiler pages for drug dealer theories and the like. I'm not sure if an apology is due but I am done with these stupid jokes that much is certain.--Steelymcbeam 23:35, 1 March 2009 (EST)
        • Thanks, Steelymcbeam. I certainly wasn't directing my long message at you, but at the general stupidity of many theories. It's dangerous ground we walk on when we say "any valid theory is admissible." Some people feel that gives them free reign to be as outlandish as possible. Thanks for cleaning up the pages. It's very much appreciated. :) Let me know if you need any help with anything. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 00:10, 2 March 2009 (EST)

New Main Page ideas

I think it would be good to have links to both the latest Behind the Eclipses and Beaming Beemans on the Main Page. They are both great resources for information about the Heroes-verse and it would make it easier to know when the new ones are up. It would also make it easier than going to the links section and it would help users understand where some of the new/unexplained information is coming from (eg. how Matt has precognition, why Sylar held onto telekinesis when he lost his other absorbed abilities). --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 04:51, 2 March 2009 (EST)

• I concur. This is a great idea, and it would encourage newcomers to the show/wiki to read those interviews. I'd rather go to the main page for these links than to the interview page. As to where they would go, I think it's time to take away the "Did you know..." section. It hasn't been updated in such a long time. This would make up more space in the interview blurb for official blog entries and Q&A's.--Citizen 05:47, 2 March 2009 (EST)
  • Yeah, I don't think adding those links on the main page is a bad idea. They're both wonderful resources, and I think publicizing them a bit more is a good idea. I'm not in favor of removing the DYK section. If it hasn't been updated in awhile, the remedy is not to remove it, but to update it. I added the links to the news section where there are other "see also" links and other external links. BTE and Beeman aren't really news per se, but they seem to fit well in that section. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 08:26, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Quotes

I am going to risk sounding presumptuous here but nobody has checked the communitiy portal disscussion about the quotes expect you and I for a while. Anyway, please can I have permission to make the qotes pages? Thank you, sorry about this but if you have any Q's could you ask on my talk page. Thanks (See, only 1 sorry this time!) --IronyUTC CH 11:24, 2 March 2009 (EST)

• Part of consensus is not only that everybody agrees, but that nobody disagrees. Not commenting on a page that should pretty much be watched by everybody and that has been bumped a sufficient number of times--well that to me implies that nobody's opposed, otherwise they would have commented. I think you're fine to go ahead with the proposal. If you need help, let me know. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 13:04, 2 March 2009 (EST)
  • I have made a draft for sylar season 1 here, it is just a test of formatting (not categories and such), I prefer the top layout more, but if it is inkeeping it should be the bottom one. --IronyUTC CH 15:52, 2 March 2009 (EST)
    • Sorry, just a note, but there are much more but I wanted your opinion on formatting (plus if the name is okay) first :) --IronyUTC CH 15:57, 2 March 2009 (EST)

yamagato

if its not asking too much could u sent a e-mail to the writers to ask what's wrong with yamagato--Manwithnoname 12:17, 2 March 2009 (EST)

• Is it not working? I'll check into it when I get home. If it's not up, I'll email Joe Tolerico. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 13:05, 2 March 2009 (EST)
  • actually i was asking about when they update, i mean when they check our e-mails or something, u know i sent an e-mail before about a hero i though it would deserve a reference, and i was hoping he could appear in the repository, sorry for the confusion --Manwithnoname 13:15, 3 March 2009 (EST)
    • Oh, I see. That makes more sense--I was wondering, because yamagatofellowship.org seems to be working just fine. I've emailed Joe in the past about some suggestions (I think Skanderbeg would be a great addition) but I've never seen it updated. I don't know if it ever will be. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 20:07, 3 March 2009 (EST)

User DirtyJoe

DirtyJoe continues to delete other peoples theories against wikia policy. I have tried to speak with him but he insists on ignoring/insulting me. I am trying to undo his deletes but I believe admin intervention is needed. ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 16:46, 2 March 2009 (EST)

• Thanks. Let me look into it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 20:51, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Get me educated!

ok, so i made the Exposed episode checklist, but i just copied and pasted from the last episode and altered everything to fit with this week. Is there an easier way, or is that the way its been done since the beginning of time?--Anthony Gooch 23:45, 2 March 2009 (EST)

• You have to use the code subst: in the template. That substitutes everything in the template right onto the page. What you would type is {{subst:newepchecklist}}. Try playing in the sandbox first, and then if you have more questions, fire 'em away at me! :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 23:50, 2 March 2009 (EST)

Target Daphne

Good call on the pseudo Daphne not being Daphne...the real Daphne showed up in tonights Target gallery. I will work on updating pics and stuff tomorrow on the gallery. Whew, they completely redid the board this epi also, but they didn't give enough clear and discernable frames of it to re-do the template...I know there were around 4 or so 'new' targets added this episode also...not sure where to put them in the template. Don't think I can re-organize it yet either; not enough clear caps of the entire thing. And ideas on how to approach updating it, since they pretty much re-mixed the entire board?--HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 03/3/2009 00:17 (EST)

• Judging from last week's BTE and Nathan moving pics around this week (and moving pics from ep to ep), we probably shouldn't try to make the template look like the board. It's a board that keeps changing, and it's probably more trouble than it's worth. How about just a gallery? Or how about just keeping the images in the template nice and small as they are, but putting them in alphabetical order, with all the unknowns at the end? That might be the best idea... -- RyanGibsonStewart (new comment) 00:20, 3 March 2009 (EST)

Joshua Rush interview

For the sitenotice, you put that the submission deadline is Thursday, March 31st. That's a Tuesday, not a Thursday.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:17, 3 March 2009 (EST)