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'''4)Explicitness:''' Well, I think this has already been commented. I won´t list all the absurdities that would happen if we gave full credit to any random comment from any random character, but we should certainly develop some guidelines to decide when a character statement may be invalided. Sometimes, characters are wrong, sometimes they lie and sometimes they are just having a casual conversation about their powers. I think we should analyse the context of the statement (not so much the character´s background) and see if this statement would conflict with other naming conventions. Sylar wasn´t talking explicitly about his power name when he said he could freeze thing, but I do think "Freezing" is much more descriptive than "Cryokinesis". Also, we can always try to adapt what a characters said; even tough Micah said "Super strength", I still think "Enhanced strength" would be perfectly canon.--[[User:Referos|Referos]] 14:39, 8 December 2007 (EST)
'''4)Explicitness:''' Well, I think this has already been commented. I won´t list all the absurdities that would happen if we gave full credit to any random comment from any random character, but we should certainly develop some guidelines to decide when a character statement may be invalided. Sometimes, characters are wrong, sometimes they lie and sometimes they are just having a casual conversation about their powers. I think we should analyse the context of the statement (not so much the character´s background) and see if this statement would conflict with other naming conventions. Sylar wasn´t talking explicitly about his power name when he said he could freeze thing, but I do think "Freezing" is much more descriptive than "Cryokinesis". Also, we can always try to adapt what a characters said; even tough Micah said "Super strength", I still think "Enhanced strength" would be perfectly canon.--[[User:Referos|Referos]] 14:39, 8 December 2007 (EST)
*Regarding scientific names: I don't think we should name all our powers with scientific names. Some don't have a scientific name, and many would require us to speculate how the power works in order to apply a name with a "scientific sound" to it. For instance, [[flight]] would most definitely have to change if we wanted to use all scientific names. However, for as many times as we've seen flight in action, we really don't know how it works. Do Nathan and West manipulate wind? Do they levitate? Hover? Glide? Do they defy gravity? Do they propel themselves, or do they control the atmosphere around them to be propelled through the air? Or is it energy they're manipulating? Maybe it's a form of magnetism they use to fly, or perhaps they're telekinetics who can only move their own bodies. Shall I go on? ... My point is that assigning a scientific name 1) assumes speculative reasoning in many cases, and 2) ignores the culture of the character with the power. If a new character has the same power as Guillame and he happens to give his power a scientific name, then we can (and should) revisit the name we have. But how in the world can we come up with a name for what he does without assuming we know how it works? Does he manipulate endorphins, simulate drugs, or is it something different entirely? We really have to put canon sources above all others. We can discuss individual cases where we would break this rule, but the show is our Bible--everything else is just really good input. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:18, 8 December 2007 (EST)
*Regarding scientific names: I don't think we should name all our powers with scientific names. Some don't have a scientific name, and many would require us to speculate how the power works in order to apply a name with a "scientific sound" to it. For instance, [[flight]] would most definitely have to change if we wanted to use all scientific names. However, for as many times as we've seen flight in action, we really don't know how it works. Do Nathan and West manipulate wind? Do they levitate? Hover? Glide? Do they defy gravity? Do they propel themselves, or do they control the atmosphere around them to be propelled through the air? Or is it energy they're manipulating? Maybe it's a form of magnetism they use to fly, or perhaps they're telekinetics who can only move their own bodies. Shall I go on? ... My point is that assigning a scientific name 1) assumes speculative reasoning in many cases, and 2) ignores the culture of the character with the power. If a new character has the same power as Guillame and he happens to give his power a scientific name, then we can (and should) revisit the name we have. But how in the world can we come up with a name for what he does without assuming we know how it works? Does he manipulate endorphins, simulate drugs, or is it something different entirely? We really have to put canon sources above all others. We can discuss individual cases where we would break this rule, but the show is our Bible--everything else is just really good input. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:18, 8 December 2007 (EST)
*Actually, the Genesis files name it as "Flight Potential". Anyway, I do know Chandra didn´t research all powers and certainly didn´t name all of them. I just think it feels strange that, in the same page, we have a)scientific names, b)formal but unscientific names ("Dream/Mind/Space-Time manipulation", c)metaphorical names (Bliss and horror) and d)Names from comics (Super strength).

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Power Name Origination

Name Level of source Explanations and references
Ability absorption Near-canon The name was explicitly given on a primatech file in From the Files of Primatech, Part 4.
Ability augmentation Near-canon Sean Fallon calls Paulette "an augmenter" (The Kill Squad, Part 3).
Ability replication Descriptive None
Accelerated probability Near-canon None
Acid secretion Near-canon "Acid secretion" is explicitly listed on Leonard's Assignment Tracker profile at primatechpaper.com.
Acidic blood Secondary "Acidic blood" was confirmed to be Mary's ability by graphic novel writer Bill Hooper.
Activation and deactivation Descriptive None
Adoptive muscle memory Canon Mohinder explicitly states this name (The Line).
Age shifting Near-canon Ivan Spektor calls the Russian an "age shifter".
Age transferal Secondary In an interview, writer Tom Inkel says, "Leona's power is to transfer aging".
Alchemy Near-canon This ability has been explicitly named "alchemy" in From the Files of Primatech, Part 1.
Alejandro's ability Possessor None
Animal control Secondary In Faction Zero, Markus....
Appearance alteration Near-canon "Appearance alteration" is the ability name listed in Connie's assignment tracker profile.
Aquatic breathing Canon EPIC explicitly names the ability "aquatic breathing" (Under the Mask).
Aura absorption Near-canon Linda Tavara refers to the bands of energy she sees as auras.
Belief induction Secondary Alethea Thorn's ability name is listed in her Heroes: Survival profile.
Bliss and horror Near-canon Text from It Takes a Village, Part 1 explicitly names this ability.
Bone spike protrusion Near-canon The intro to Under the Bridge, Part 2 states: "Perrin's ability activates on instinct, sending bone spikes in every direction".
Carbon isolation and formation Secondary Cole's Heroes: Survival profile explicitly names the power as "carbon isolation and formation".
Chlorine gas exudation Near-canon Sylar says, "Tina Ramierez. Exudes chlorine gas instead of carbon dioxide" (Viewpoints).
Clairsentience Canon A file in the Genesis Files is called "clairsentience". Also, Bridget Bailey explicitly references Dr. Suresh's Activating Evolution chapter on "clairsentience" when referring to her ability in an email (Heroes Evolutions).
Clairvoyance Canon "Clairvoyance" is explicitly named in the Genesis Files. Molly's tip in the Assignment tracker map confirms that she has this ability.
Cloaking Common name Cloaking is known from Star Trek as an ability to hide something..
Cloning Near-canon The name is explicitly listed in Julien Dumont's assignment tracker profile.
The introduction to Revolutionary War, Part 2 says that Evan creates clones.
Constriction Near-canon Agent Howard calls his partner a "Constrictor" (Going Postal, Part 1).
Crumpling Near-canon Marcus uses the word "crumple" in Normal Lives.
Cyberpathy Canon EPIC explicitly names this ability "cyberpathy" (Under the Mask).
Danger sensing Near-canon None
David's ability Possessor None
Dehydration Descriptive Based on descriptions in Golden Handshake.
Dimension hopping Secondary Kelli Wheaton's ability name is listed in her Heroes: Survival profile.
Dimensional storage Secondary Store's ability name is listed in his Heroes: Survival profile.
Disintegration Descriptive None
Disintegration touch Near-canon Felicia says she has a "disintegration touch" (Career Choices).
Dream manipulation Near-canon "Dream manipulation" is explicitly named in Sanjog's tip in the Assignment Tracker Map.
Elasticity Common name None
Electric manipulation Near-canon This ability has been explicitly and expertly named by Elle's Assignment Tracker profile.
Electrical absorption Near-canon Mohinder says that the teenage patient can absorb electrical currents (Blackout, Part 2).
Elemental control Common name None
Empathic manipulation Near-canon Empathic manipulation is explicitly named in Syn's Assignment Tracker profile.
Empathic mimicry Near-canon "Empathic Mimcry"[sic] is explicitly named in Peter's tip in the Assignment Tracker Map.
Empathy Near-canon None
Energy absorption, transference, and redirection Near-canon The name was explicitly given in Mindy's Assignment Tracker profile and in From the Files of Primatech, Part 4.
Enhanced hearing Canon Explicitly named in Gabriel Gray's primatechpaper.com profile (Building 26).
Enhanced memory Near-canon Explicitly named in Matt Neuenberg's primatechpaper.com profile.
Enhanced strength Canon Knox's assignment tracker profile lists the ability as "enhanced strength" (The Butterfly Effect).
Enhanced strength and senses Near-canon The Heroes Reborn app explicitly names this ability as "enhanced strength and senses".
Enhanced synesthesia Near-canon The ability is explicitly called "enhanced synesthesia" in From the Files of Primatech, Part 1.
Enhanced teleporting Secondary Teleporter's ability name is listed in his Heroes: Survival profile.
Extraskeletal manipulation Secondary None
Fire breathing Canon Edgar's list names the ability "fire breathing". Also, the Bowmans are called "fire breathers" a number of times in Faction Zero.
Fire casting Near-canon The blazing homeless man is referred to as a "fire-casting evo" (Dirty Deeds).
Fireworks creation Near-canon Claire says that Detlev "created fireworks" (Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World, Chapter 22).
Flight Canon Mohinder explicitly names it "Flight" in The Second Coming.
Forcefields Near-canon "Forcefields" is the name given in Rebellion, Part 3.
Freezing Canon Tracy's ability is explicitly listed on the file Nathan gives The President (Dual).
Future terrorist's ability Possessor The future terrorist was confirmed to be emitting a melting beam by artists Micah Gunnell and Beth Sotelo.
Gold mimicry Descriptive "Gold mimicry" describes what this ability does.
Granulation Descriptive Granulation describes what Gordon can do.
Gravitational manipulation Near-canon "Gravitational manipulation" is the ability name listed in Stephen Canfield's assignment tracker profile.
Green energy blast Secondary None
Healing Canon Hiro Nakamura calls his mother a healer (Our Father). Linda's notebook also explicitly lists Linderman's ability as "healing".
Healing touch Canon "Healing touch" is listed explicitly on Jeremy Greer's Assignment Tracker 2.0 profile (Tabula Rasa).
Health optimizing Secondary Marc is described as a "health optimizer" in his Heroes: Survival profile.
Heat generation Canon None
Illusion Canon Explicitly named by Candice in Kindred.
Image projection Descriptive "Image projection" describes all known aspects of Deitra's ability.
Impenetrable skin Canon The Haitian says that Samedi's "skin is impenetrable" (The Eclipse, Part 1).
Imprinting Common name "Imprinting" is a common name for what Joe Macon can do.
Induced radioactivity Canon "Induced Radioactivity" is explicitly named in the Genesis Files.
Inflammation Descriptive None
Intuitive aptitude Canon Explicitly named in Gabriel Gray's primatechpaper.com profile (Building 26).
Invisibility Canon Godsend refers to Claude as being invisible. Claude's Primatech file explicitly names the ability "invisibility" (From the Files of Primatech, Part 5).
Laser emission Descriptive Eric Doyle asks Michael about his lasers (Doyle).
Levitation Near-canon The introduction to History of a Secret says, "Abu Aswan has the power to levitate and move extremely heavy objects".
Lie detection Canon Sylar referred to Sue as a "lie detector" (Our Father).
Light absorption Common name Light absorption is a common name for Abe's ability.
Luke's ability Possessor None
Luminescence Common name Scientific description for glowing object.
Lung adaptation Near-canon In Berlin, Part 1, Devin describes Bianca's ability as being able to "adapt her lungs to any environment".
Magnetism Canon The Company's assignment tracker explicitly identifies the ability as "magnetism" (The Butterfly Effect).
Mass manipulation Near-canon Name of ability is specifically given in the Primatech files (From the Files of Primatech, Part 5).
Mediumship Secondary R.D. Hall called Ida May's power "mediumship" in an interview.
Melting Canon Described as "ability to melt" in Gabriel Gray's primatechpaper.com profile (Building 26).
Memory manipulation Descriptive None
Memory storage Near-canon None
Mental manipulation Near-canon René's ability is explicitly specified as mental manipulation on a Primatech ID badge in Graphic Novel:From the Files of Primatech, Part 8.
Metal mimicry Descriptive None
Microwave emission Canon Luke says his power is like a microwave (Trust and Blood).
Miko's ability Possessor None
Mist mimicry Near-canon A Matter of Trust says "He turned into mist" several times.
Nerve gas emission Near-canon Penny explicitly describes the ability as emitting "a nerve gas" in Faces, Part 1.
Nerve manipulation Descriptive None
Neurocognitive deficit Canon The term "neurocognitive deficit" is referred to in the Mozaic file (The Fix) and appears to match Anna's ability.
Non-biological duplication Secondary None
Oil secretion Descriptive None
Omnilingualism Common name None
Persuasion Canon Sylar refers to Eden's ability as "the power of persuasion" in Fallout; the power is also explicitly named in From the Files of Primatech, Part 1.
Phasing Canon Future Hiro says "D.L. can phase inside the buildings" in Five Years Gone.
Phoenix mimicry Secondary None
Plant growth Near-canon "Plant growth" is explicitly named in the chapter 1 of Purpose.
Plant manipulation Near-canon The Company's assignment tracker entry for Brendan Lewis explicitly calls his ability "plant manipulation".
Poison emission Canon Maya "emits a plague ... that makes people sick"--Tim Kring, episode commentary for The Kindness of Strangers; Maya uses the word "poison" to describe her ability in Powerless.
Possession Near-canon Claire says to Harold Esposito, "You can possess people." (Chapter 15 of Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World).
Precognition Canon Eden refers to Isaac as "the precog" in Better Halves.
Precognitive dreaming Near-canon In From the Files of Primatech, Part 1, Angela's ability is explictly listed as precognitive dreaming.
Primal rage Near-canon Explicitly named by agent Tim Pope in the second iStory chapter for Primatech.
Probability computation Near-canon None
Puppet master Canon This ability is explicitly named in Edgar's list and in Eric Doyle's Assignment Tracker 2.0.
Pyrokinesis Canon Named explicitly in Flint's Assignment Tracker 2.0 profile (The Butterfly Effect).
Rapid cell regeneration Canon "Rapid cell regeneration" is explicitly named in the Genesis Files.
Rock formation Near-canon Dearing says that Gallegos "made rocks form out of thin air" (Dirty Deeds).
Sedation Descriptive None
Seismic burst Secondary None
Shape shifting Canon Both Sylar and Danko refer to James Martin as a "shape shifter" in Into Asylum.
Shattering Secondary iStory writer Ryan Gibson Stewart stated that Pearl and Trevor have the same ability, and it is meant to be called "shattering".
Shifting Near-canon None
Size alteration Secondary Size alteration is explicitly named in Eric Lee Harrison's Heroes: Survival profile.
Sound absorption Near-canon The agent says, "My special ability. My body absorbs all sound." (Going Postal).
Sound manipulation Canon The Company's assignment tracker on Jesse states his ability is "sound manipulation" (The Butterfly Effect..
Space-time manipulation Canon Hiro's ability is explicitly listed on the file Nathan gives The President (Dual).
Spider mimicry Canon Edgar's list explicitly names Caleb's ability.
Spontaneous combustion Canon This ability is explicitly named in Edgar's list. Also, in Boom, Noah explicitly states the ability name.
Super speed Canon Hiro tells Ando that "with super speed, [Daphne] is the world's greatest thief" (The Butterfly Effect). Edgar's list also explicitly names the ability.
Supercharging Canon Ando has said that he can "supercharge" another person's ability (Brave New World).
Technopathy Near-canon "Technopathy" is explicitly named in Micah's tip on the Assignment Tracker Map.
Telekinesis Canon Claude explicitly names this ability when asks Peter "which one of your sorry friends has telekinesis?" in Unexpected.
Telepathy Canon Explicitly listed in the Mozaic file (The Fix) and on the file Nathan gives The President (Dual).
Teleportation Canon "Teleportation" is the name of a file in The Genesis Files. Additionally, the interactive map and the assignment tracker map explicitly list "teleportation" as the name of the ability. Joanne says that Tommy is a teleporter (Odessa).
Telescopic vision Near-canon "Telescopic vision" is explicitly listed on Donna's Assignment Tracker profile at primatechpaper.com.
Temporal rewind Secondary "Temporal rewind" is explicitly named on the Heroes: Survival profile of John Mulligan, a character confirmed to belong to iStory writer Zach Wilson.
Terrakinesis Near-canon None
Umbrakinesis Canon None
Wall crawling Common name This is a common name for such an ability.
Water generation Common name None
Water mimicry Near-canon Noah says the liquid man can "mimic the density of water" and "can turn his body wholly into liquid" in Team Building Exercise.
Weather control Canon Alice says she thinks she can "control the weather". (1961).


Naming conventions

  • Nicely done, Hardvice. This will make a handy reference when trying to decide on appropriate names. (Admin 23:06, 25 September 2007 (EDT))
    • It can probably be expanded with things other than powers and characters, but again, Halo 3...--Hardvice (talk) 23:07, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

With the new idea in motion...

Should this page be updates too? Right before "Descriptive names", something like: "If there is little information on the power and how it works, it should be named with the holder of the ability until more information is learned.(Maya's ability, Alejandro's ability)"

?--Riddler 23:53, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

  • Probably--Hardvice (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
  • I think that if there's little information on a power and how it works, we should simply not have an article. Such is not the case for Maya's ability and Alejandro's ability--we have seen the powers in action, can describe in detail what occurs, can make pretty accurate conclusions about what's going on, and know full well the consequences of the powers. What we don't have is a name for the powers, mostly because they don't have counterparts with powers we've seen in other media, like flight or telepathy. When we didn't know much about the powers after Four Months Later, we didn't write an article. Now that we have been smack dab in the middle of the powers, we have a wealth of information, but no name. The help page should be updated, but I don't think we should be encouraging the creation of powers articles when little or nothing is known about the power. That's my only concern. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:30, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Nicely updated. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:16, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
      • Excellent. This will be mucho helpful for reference in the future. I am glad that when I stepped of on a limb earlier this week, and did the Maya's ability and Alejandro's ability change, that it stuck, and everyone seemed to accept it and we moved on with it. I was half-expecting to get it nixed for being too-speculative, but I am glad it ended up being something that we can have as a fall-back when we just can't get the naming convention hammered out when undoubted EH powers are being bandied about. We will definately get a chance eventually to get the names tiddied up anyway, and this will help keep the characters from being so much in limbo as to being EHs in cases like this. It should also help supress the newbies from continuously jumping in with names like 'Beubonic Death Ray' and 'Puking Pestilence', etc...until a firm canon-name is eventually given. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/4/2007 17:18 (EST)

Super Strength

If we already changed it, I'm not sure, because it says super strength in the beginning. But if we did change someone tell me i'm stupid for ranting. I have so much to say, i just don't know what to say first. haha. Okay, lets seeeeeee... First off, I think we should definetely changed Enhanced strength to super strength. The columns above say Enhanced strength is a descriptive name. I don't think it is at all descriptive. Someone gets enhanced strength from steroids! haha lol. But it's not like no one uses the term super strength. When I first joined I was very confused to why enhanced wasn't super. And with all the other names like lightning and muscle mimcry, I think it is only fair to correct to use Super Strength. And changing the rules in the middle of a constructive decision wouldn't be fair. It'd be a little Monkey Scopes. See you later amigos. Jason Garrick 15:57, 5 December 2007 (EST)

  • Yes, it has already been changed. This page wasn't updated. It was "descriptive" because the only source for calling it "enhanced strength" was that that was a description of the ability. Now it's canon. Simple enough.--Hardvice (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2007 (EST)
    • Alright, thanks for telling me. :) Jason Garrick 16:16, 5 December 2007 (EST)
  • When was it ever called super strength? It's been consistently called just strength more. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 21:09, 5 December 2007 (EST)


Naming Conventions, they are great but...

I'm having a little problem with all the renaming and pointing back to the naming conventions as the logical way to name an ability. But the reality is that the "canon" sources aren't always reliable. Like I am perfectly fine with calling Monica's power "Adaptable Muscle Memory" or whatever it is called because Suresh knows what he is talking about when it comes to abilities. But what we fail to remember is that when this show is about normal everyday people just getting these abilities out of the blue. I don't know about you all but if I started glowing and making little explosions from my hands, I wouldn't call it "Induced Radioactivity". I would call it glowy explosion... and just because thats what i call it doesn't mean that that is the correct name for it. Which is like Micah calling Niki's ability "Super Strength". He just calls it what he as a 11 year old boy is familiar with. That certainly doesn't mean thats the correct name for an ability. Where as a creator in the show, like a writer or director in a commentary or interview should have a higher place in the hierarchy because they would know what to call it if someone had asked them. So while some canon sources are reliable many are not considering their characters are normal every day people and don't know whats happening to them. So i just believe articles like "Freezing, Lightning, Super Strength" and a couple others should be looked over again and thought out if that is indeed the correct name for them. And lets face it, Heroes did rip off a lot of abilities from other cartoons, comics, and other sources so why not just take their names?

All in all I don't think a hierarchy is fit. I think it should be situational and dependent on the ability and what all characters name it.

  • A few random, disorganized comments from me...I agree, the hierarchy is not perfect, and I agree, we might need to put some extra emphasis on comments from writers. However, I do believe strongly that we should not always be looking for a scientific name for the powers. The reason so many of them sound so scientific is because Chandra and Mohinder are both scientists, and are responsible for labeling so many of the powers. If they were poets, our article names would look very different. I have been very vocal about maintaining "bliss and horror" as the label for Guillame's power because it preserves the culture and the context of his power. Even when asked, Joe Kelly said "No one would have named it in his village because they think of it as a spiritual power given by the Loa." As Heroes becomes more global, it's really important to me that we respect the cultures from which these powers emerge. We also need to remember that not all powers necessarily have names. Another way to say that is that there is no "correct" name for many of the powers; we just have to label them because articles need titles. So Micah saying "super strength" is not him misnaming something, it's him giving a name to a phenomenon he's observing. And he does it with the best background knowledge he has: comic books, not science. There's nothing wrong with that, and there's nothing wrong with respecting what the power holder's intelligent son called the power. If I had the power to emit radiation, I wouldn't call it "glowy explosion", but I would call it something like "radioactivity"--and I hoped very hard that Ted would have said something like that so we could get rid of "induced radioactivity"....So yes, I think we need to revisit some of the conventions we have. I don't have a perfect solution, and I don't think one exists. Micah has said he "talks to machines"; I think "technopathy" is a much better term than "machine talking" or "talking to machines" (though I wouldn't be opposed to the latter). Perhaps it comes down to discussion and consensus if we want to override the existing hierarchy, which I think is also what basically what you're saying, if I'm understanding you correctly. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:18, 6 December 2007 (EST)
  • I have some comments about names for abilities:

1)Description: The most important thing we should be aiming when naming an ability? It should be descriptive. In other words, it should be possible to guess the general function of the power just by knowing it´s name. It´s okay to require common knowledge from other works (comics/sci-fiction), like "Telekinesis" or "Telepathy", but I strongly think we should avoid names that make people think "And what the hell does this power do?".

2)Standardization: If we are naming all abilities with scientific and formal names ("Adoptive Muscle Memory", "Induced Radioactivity", "Telepathy", "Telekinesis" ) instead of the casual names given by the characters ("Muscle Mimicry", "Going Nuclear", "Mind Reading", "Moving Objects With Your Mind"), then we should stick to it. It just feel awkward, strange and uncyclopedic to have, at the same time, names like "Rapid Cell Regeneration" and "Super Strength". Also, we should try to use few different adjectives and nouns. For example, we have "Space-Time manipulation", "Mind manipulation", "Whatever manipulation". Later on, if we find an ability to control the weather, it should probably be named "Weather manipulation", too (and not "Weather control"). This includes the "Enhanced" powers as well. I think it looks more professional if we choose a style and name all powers according to it.

3)Scientific names: Whatever style we choose for naming abilities, we should stick to it. I believe the best option would be to name them scientifically, when possible, for two main reasons:

a)To help communication between the various languages of the Wiki. Scientific names, generally derived from Latin or Greek, have a higher chance of being similar in other languages. Take for example "Telekinesis". It´s called "Télékinésie" in French, "Telecinese" in Portuguese, "Telekinese" in German and "Telequinesis" in Spanish. Ok, I know this won´t be possible with all the powers, but just wanted to note this.

b)Now that Heroes is becoming more global, I think exactly the opposite: scientific names would be better than "cultural names". We know different people can have the same power. While Guillame in Haiti may call his power "Bliss and horror", someone in a different country may discover this ability and call it "Endorphin manipulation", and another person in another continent, after finding out that he or she has this power too, may call it "Drug simulation". One of the reasons Science uses strange and complicated names is to allow an interconnection between cultures. However, I do think it would be interesting to add a page/section about how different people from different cultures reacted from the discovery of evolved humans abilities.

4)Explicitness: Well, I think this has already been commented. I won´t list all the absurdities that would happen if we gave full credit to any random comment from any random character, but we should certainly develop some guidelines to decide when a character statement may be invalided. Sometimes, characters are wrong, sometimes they lie and sometimes they are just having a casual conversation about their powers. I think we should analyse the context of the statement (not so much the character´s background) and see if this statement would conflict with other naming conventions. Sylar wasn´t talking explicitly about his power name when he said he could freeze thing, but I do think "Freezing" is much more descriptive than "Cryokinesis". Also, we can always try to adapt what a characters said; even tough Micah said "Super strength", I still think "Enhanced strength" would be perfectly canon.--Referos 14:39, 8 December 2007 (EST)

  • Regarding scientific names: I don't think we should name all our powers with scientific names. Some don't have a scientific name, and many would require us to speculate how the power works in order to apply a name with a "scientific sound" to it. For instance, flight would most definitely have to change if we wanted to use all scientific names. However, for as many times as we've seen flight in action, we really don't know how it works. Do Nathan and West manipulate wind? Do they levitate? Hover? Glide? Do they defy gravity? Do they propel themselves, or do they control the atmosphere around them to be propelled through the air? Or is it energy they're manipulating? Maybe it's a form of magnetism they use to fly, or perhaps they're telekinetics who can only move their own bodies. Shall I go on? ... My point is that assigning a scientific name 1) assumes speculative reasoning in many cases, and 2) ignores the culture of the character with the power. If a new character has the same power as Guillame and he happens to give his power a scientific name, then we can (and should) revisit the name we have. But how in the world can we come up with a name for what he does without assuming we know how it works? Does he manipulate endorphins, simulate drugs, or is it something different entirely? We really have to put canon sources above all others. We can discuss individual cases where we would break this rule, but the show is our Bible--everything else is just really good input. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2007 (EST)
  • Actually, the Genesis files name it as "Flight Potential". Anyway, I do know Chandra didn´t research all powers and certainly didn´t name all of them. I just think it feels strange that, in the same page, we have a)scientific names, b)formal but unscientific names ("Dream/Mind/Space-Time manipulation", c)metaphorical names (Bliss and horror) and d)Names from comics (Super strength).